15,000 mile oil change

[DarkMossJustin]

Happy Sport Mode Saturday y'all !!

I have an important decision to make for the 2nd oil change.

Where did y'all do yours?

Are y'all sticking with Kia's preferred motor oil and oil weight/viscosity or going with something else based on your own preferences and experiences, or perhaps switching to something that works better for your specific area/environmental conditions/driving demands?

Just FYI, I did the complimentary oil change and 7,500 mile systems/tires/brake checkup with the amazing dealership that sold me the Telly but I'm weighing my options for the 2nd change.

Sport Mode Saturday

Because we spent the week in Snow or Comfort or Eco or Smart and tomorrow we'll be like that Commodores song "Easy" (like Sunday Morning), it's possibly a great idea to give our Kia Tellurides' drive mode selector a little Sport Mode love on Saturdays from now on? Even if y'all just Sport Mode...

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[Astron]

I don't have the means to do the oil change myself as I currently live in a apartment. So I currently do my services at my dealership. They're okay so far but I plan to eventually do most things myself if possible. I do provide my own oil when I do maintenance.

 

[DarkMossJustin]

I don't have the means to do the oil change myself as I currently live in a apartment. So I currently do my services at my dealership. They're okay so far but I plan to eventually do most things myself if possible. I do provide my own oil when I do maintenance.

@Astron:

What oil/weight will you likely use when you do your own changes down the road?

I used to go with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage with the previous car (2002 Lexus LS 430)... but am debating whether to go with Kia's preferred oil that shipped with the Telly or switch Telly over to Mobil 1 Full Synthetic with the same oil weight/viscosity recommended in the owner's manual.

I'm pretty sure they used Kia's recommended brand/weight motor oil for my included 7,500 mile oil change and systems checkup.

She runs great.

No complaints so far.

 

[Astron]

@Astron:

What oil/weight will you likely use when you do your own changes down the road?

I used to go with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage with the previous car (2002 Lexus LS 430)... but am debating whether to go with Kia's preferred oil that shipped with the Telly or switch Telly over to Mobil 1 Full Synthetic with the same oil weight/viscosity recommended in the owner's manual.

I'm pretty sure they used Kia's recommended brand/weight motor oil for my included 7,500 mile oil change and systems checkup.

She runs great.

No complaints so far.

I'm currently running Pennzoil's Ultra plantinum 5w-30. I've noticed right away a gain of 2 MPG. No problems with it so far. At the 7.5k maintenance I asked my dealership what oil they used and they told me it's a semi-synthethic blend. So right then and there I opted to use the pennzoil and I'm happy with the choice.

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[PittPa]

Dealer. Cheap, Fast, more than adequate.

 

[Wiluride]

I did my first oil change at 1000 miles using Kirkland Full synthetic 5w-30. I'll be doing regular changes using this oil and Kia filters every 5000 miles. I'll be doing these myself in my garage.

My understanding is that GDI engines can be hard on oils an that regardless of the quality of the lubricant, relatively short change intervals are a good thing.

I can change my own oil in less time than it takes to drive to and from any oil change facility. It'll cost me about $30 per oil change ( oil and filter)

 

[Bridge4]

I did my first oil change at 1000 miles using Kirkland Full synthetic 5w-30. I'll be doing regular changes using this oil and Kia filters every 5000 miles. I'll be doing these myself in my garage.

My understanding is that GDI engines can be hard on oils an that regardless of the quality of the lubricant, relatively short change intervals are a good thing.

I can change my own oil in less time than it takes to drive to and from any oil change facility. It'll cost me about $30 per oil change ( oil and filter)

You ever get your oil tested? I'm all for changing fluids a little early, but you might be a little over concerned about the GDI engines. From what I've seen, 10 years ago they were figuring all this crap out, but the more recent engines have gotten a lot better.

I think you'd be surprised if you tested your full synth oil at 5k vs 7.5 or 10k. I've seen lots of people who test their oils on the new engines (NOT kia) and most are surprised how clean they come back if using a nice oil.

 

[Wiluride]

You ever get your oil tested? I'm all for changing fluids a little early, but you might be a little over concerned about the GDI engines. From what I've seen, 10 years ago they were figuring all this crap out, but the more recent engines have gotten a lot better.

I think you'd be surprised if you tested your full synth oil at 5k vs 7.5 or 10k. I've seen lots of people who test their oils on the new engines (NOT kia) and most are surprised how clean they come back if using a nice oil.

No, I've never had oil tested. I doubt it's worth it to me.

Every 100,0000 miles it'll cost me $600 to change the oil every 5,000 at today's costs ... $400 if I went to 7,500 intervals. Even if it cost me twice the cost for oil/filter, the difference in maintenance costs per year is maybe $75

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[Bridge4]

No, I've never had oil tested. I doubt it's worth it to me.

Every 100,0000 miles it'll cost me $600 to change the oil every 5,000 at today's costs ... $400 if I went to 7,500 intervals. Even if it cost me twice the cost for oil/filter, the difference in maintenance costs per year is maybe $75

I agree it doesn’t hurt, I’m just curious as to how bad it actually gets if you stick to normal schedule.

I regularly change fluids early, especially in heavy use items so I am not against it at all.

 

[TheNip73]

You ever get your oil tested? I'm all for changing fluids a little early, but you might be a little over concerned about the GDI engines. From what I've seen, 10 years ago they were figuring all this crap out, but the more recent engines have gotten a lot better.

I think you'd be surprised if you tested your full synth oil at 5k vs 7.5 or 10k. I've seen lots of people who test their oils on the new engines (NOT kia) and most are surprised how clean they come back if using a nice oil.

The issue with GDI is not how clean the oil itself is. It is buildup of carbon on valves caused by the lack of gas getting on the top of the valves in the GDI design. No oil analysis can indicate if this carbon buildup is occurring.

Doing used oil analysis, changing at 5k miles, using Pennzoil Platnium 5W-30 and kia filters, and doing the work myself.

some speculate more frequent changing of oil means more evaporation of “fresh oil” compounds onto the valves—> more carbon buildup, so longer oil change intervals are better. Some think the opposite. I don’t really know and settled on 5K to start, but may extend to the recommended 7.5K or longer at a later time. No real worries about getting 10K or longer intervals out of the Pennzoil Platnium based on previous oil analysis that I had done in previous vehicle.

 

[Bridge4]

The issue with GDI is not how clean the oil itself is. It is buildup of carbon on valves caused by the lack of gas getting on the top of the valves in the GDI design. No oil analysis can indicate if this carbon buildup is occurring.

Doing used oil analysis, changing at 5k miles, using Pennzoil Platnium 5W-30 and kia filters, and doing the work myself.

some speculate more frequent changing of oil means more evaporation of “fresh oil” compounds onto the valves—> more carbon buildup, so longer oil change intervals are better. Some think the opposite. I don’t really know and settled on 5K to start, but may extend to the recommended 7.5K or longer at a later time. No real worries about getting 10K or longer intervals out of the Pennzoil Platnium based on previous oil analysis that I had done in previous vehicle.

Are you going to be checking the valves? I'd be interested to see what you find as you go. Lots of "I've heard" around, which it sounds like you've run into as well. Be nice to see some real life evidence.

 

[TheNip73]

Are you going to be checking the valves? I'd be interested to see what you find as you go. Lots of "I've heard" around, which it sounds like you've run into as well. Be nice to see some real life evidence.

No - not checking valves - don’t have the tools for that.

I also would be interested if someone ever did this. I’m sure there is a YouTube video or forums post somewhere where someone has attempted this. Problem is there needs to be a control engine, multiple oil change inntervals, etc. to validate/conclude anything of meaning.

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[Bridge4]

No - not checking valves - don’t have the tools for that.

I also would be interested if someone ever did this. I’m sure there is a YouTube video or forums post somewhere where someone has attempted this. Problem is there needs to be a control engine, multiple oil change inntervals, etc. to validate/conclude anything of meaning.

Okay, so we need to get a real telluride fan, with a big budget in here for some testing! If I ever win the lotto I'll do it. Probably make your money back on youtube clicks.

 

[Wiluride]

Just to be a little more specific... the two main things I am concerned with relating to GDI and oil are... oil dilution and soot .

My current driving habits are such that I rarely make short trips that would contribute to problems with oil dilution, so it's currently not a major concern for me.

Soot in oil is my biggest concern, because I'm not sure there's any way to avoid the issue. To be honest I'm not sure I fully understand the issue, but my current thinking is you can't really filter out the soot, and engine oil can only do so much to deal with it... so relatively frequent oil changes seems one method to reduce the amount of soot accumulating in the oil.

So... I'm shooting for 5,000 mile oil changes, if I get busy at times I've got another 2,500 miles I could go before exceeding the Kia required 7,500 mile interval.

 

[Bridge4]

Is this where a “catch can” might come into play? I believe they are popular in these engines and “catch” the extra oil that makes a mess and can help cause issues?
Or is that an entirely different thing

Just to be a little more specific... the two main things I am concerned with relating to GDI and oil are... oil dilution and soot .

My current driving habits are such that I rarely make short trips that would contribute to problems with oil dilution, so it's currently not a major concern for me.

Soot in oil is my biggest concern, because I'm not sure there's any way to avoid the issue. To be honest I'm not sure I fully understand the issue, but my current thinking is you can't really filter out the soot, and engine oil can only do so much to deal with it... so relatively frequent oil changes seems one method to reduce the amount of soot accumulating in the oil.

So... I'm shooting for 5,000 mile oil changes, if I get busy at times I've got another 2,500 miles I could go before exceeding the Kia required 7,500 mile interval.

 

[Stoney]

Okay, so we need to get a real telluride fan, with a big budget in here for some testing! If I ever win the lotto I'll do it. Probably make your money back on YouTube clicks

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[Stoney]

Okay, so we need to get a real telluride fan, with a big budget in here for some testing! If I ever win the lotto I'll do it. Probably make your money back on youtube clicks.

One site says that fuel system cleaners will aid in GDI intake valve cleaning. Any thoughts?

"Because GDI engines directly inject gas into the cylinder, small amounts of dirt from intake air and blowback carbon build up on intake walls. Over time this causes carbon build up that restricts air flow to the cylinders and you lose the aid of torque and fuel economy that GDI provide in the first place. For this reason, it’s important to use fuel system cleaners and products that specialize in GDI intake valve cleaning."

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BMW and Kia specifically have issued technical service bulletins to their dealerships urging them to recommend ethanol-free gasoline brands and gasoline with detergents. They have also recommended owners occasionally add a fuel-system cleaner to their vehicle."

 

[Bridge4]

One site says that fuel system cleaners will aid in GDI intake valve cleaning. Any thoughts?

"Because GDI engines directly inject gas into the cylinder, small amounts of dirt from intake air and blowback carbon build up on intake walls. Over time this causes carbon build up that restricts air flow to the cylinders and you lose the aid of torque and fuel economy that GDI provide in the first place. For this reason, it’s important to use fuel system cleaners and products that specialize in GDI intake valve cleaning."

I think if you use dirty gas, or have high milage its not a bad idea. I also think, a youtube video and a 20 dollar can do it vs 2-300 from a dealer.

I'm all for over maintaining things, just don't want people to be scared into doing it is all.

 

[NDBlackEX]

Happy Sport Mode Saturday y'all !!

I have an important decision to make for the 2nd oil change.

Where did y'all do yours?

Are y'all sticking with Kia's preferred motor oil and oil weight/viscosity or going with something else based on your own preferences and experiences, or perhaps switching to something that works better for your specific area/environmental conditions/driving demands?

Just FYI, I did the complimentary oil change and 7,500 mile systems/tires/brake checkup with the amazing dealership that sold me the Telly but I'm weighing my options for the 2nd change.

Sport Mode Saturday

Because we spent the week in Snow or Comfort or Eco or Smart and tomorrow we'll be like that Commodores song "Easy" (like Sunday Morning), it's possibly a great idea to give our Kia Tellurides' drive mode selector a little Sport Mode love on Saturdays from now on? Even if y'all just Sport Mode...

tellurideforum.org

I did my 7500 mile at 7k. The dealer didn't ask what kind of oil I wanted, I assumed they'd use synthetic and hit me with a sticker that says come back in 7500 per Kia's recommendation. I didn't see any mention of type of oil on the invoice and didn't look at the sticker. Once I finally looked at the sticker, it was a 3k interval. I asked and they had used synthetic blend. Well, I use SB in my f150 and they always recommend 5k intervals with that.

I ran it 4k and changed the oil again, this time with full synthetic. I'll probably stick to a 5k interval with synthetic and not worry too much if I can't get it in before a trip and end up going over.

I like going to the dealer with my newer stuff. They (usually) know what they're doing and have the correct stuff on hand. I took my Honda to a Chevy dealer once because their quick lube wasn't busy. Well, I get it back, look at the paperwork and they filled it with their bulk 5w-30. It takes 0w-20 which I believe only comes in synthetic, it's lightweight. Their response was "You didn't tell us you wanted special oil." Oh, that's my mistake that I didn't tell you to put the weight of oil in that's stamped on the oil cap in bright yellow letters... I kindly explained to them that my Honda engine wasn't some slop job, piston slap Chevy, but a precision machine with lower tolerances and wouldn't take whatever generic petroleum product that passes as "in spec" by GM standards.

And that's why I go to the dealership.

 

[Wiluride]

One site says that fuel system cleaners will aid in GDI intake valve cleaning. Any thoughts?

"Because GDI engines directly inject gas into the cylinder, small amounts of dirt from intake air and blowback carbon build up on intake walls. Over time this causes carbon build up that restricts air flow to the cylinders and you lose the aid of torque and fuel economy that GDI provide in the first place. For this reason, it’s important to use fuel system cleaners and products that specialize in GDI intake valve cleaning."

Also
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BMW and Kia specifically have issued technical service bulletins to their dealerships urging them to recommend ethanol-free gasoline brands and gasoline with detergents. They have also recommended owners occasionally add a fuel-system cleaner to their vehicle."

Seems pretty ridiculous to advise ethanol free gasoline in the USA, its just not practical for the average motorist to obtain on a daily basis.