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Any Dealers in Massachusetts taking 2021 Telluride orders at MSRP with not Market Demand Mark-up?

Gervais charged 399.00 doc fee on my 21 Telluride, and my wife’s’21 Seltos.
Sales rep Bob Fisher and GM Jim Brophy
both decent and straightforward.
Thanks. That's much more reasonable than Nashua Kia.
 
For those who are ordering from dealers like Gervias, Lev and others who aren't marking up, what are they charging for doc fees and any other charges? Thanks.
$375 doc fee for Lev. No other fees outside what you need to pay with any purchase (sales tax, registration).
 
Hey @Alan,

It made more sense to answer your question in a thread since there are character limits on my profile page.

Glad to hear you are beginning your search process for the Telluride. You’ve already armed yourself with an arsenal of knowledge by joining this forum. I bought my Telluride back in Jan 2020 (ordered Sep 2019) so the market has changed quite a bit since I was in the market. I ordered from Kia of Burlington in Massachusetts for MSRP.

First of all if UVO link cellular internet based remote start and other data functions is important to you, there have been new updates on buying 2022 model KIA’s in MA preventing service activation. It only started for the 2022 model years, I would advise you to reach out to MA dealers to find out more about what this means and what options you have to utilize UVO link. You will probably still have remote start from the fob even if UVO link won’t work. My thread about it below.


There have been a lot of other owners on this forum who have ordered from MA and surrounding areas and and were able to get for MSRP as well. For example, this thread I posted in. Lev Kia of Framingham seems to be a solid choice over the years.

Just use the forum search tool and search areas you are looking in (ie. Massachusetts, Boston, Rhode Island) if you want to get a recommendation for a good dealer.

There is also the nationwide thread for good dealers. Good Dealer Dealings - List Your Good Dealer Experience

If you are willing to purchase out of state, you will have the greatest options for ordering at MSRP and hopefully finding a dealer with an allocation already being made or on it’s way shipping to the dealer that has not been purchased yet.

Here are some other useful threads on how to order and use the Failcat inventory search tool.



Familiarize yourself with the ordering process (Kdealer, KFOS). If a sales manager doesn’t know these words or says buyers are not allowed to order, walk away from that dealer immediately.

If you order, check what place you are in line for ordering and how much volume the dealer gets for Tellurides. A long place in line or a small volume dealer will extend your wait times.

Once you have placed an order, you are at the mercy of the dealer providing any updates on order status. Once your VIN is generated (salesman will share this info or you might be able to find yours on Failcat) it should be more clear when an ETA is in sight. The ETA date will likely change several times before actual delivery, this is normal. When you have a VIN, you can also ask Stephen Cantrell on this forum to lookup the status of your order if your dealer is unresponsive.

When you finally take delivery of the car, make sure you inspect it fully and test drive it to your liking before driving it home. Check for vibration around 60-75 mph speeds if you have an AWD.

It’s definitely a weird way to but a new car, not seeing it in person on the lot before ordering, the crazy demand and insane markups, and buying a KIA brand car for the first time. But it was well worth it for me and many owners on this forum. Good luck!

-T
 
Hey @Alan,

It made more sense to answer your question in a thread since there are character limits on my profile page.

Glad to hear you are beginning your search process for the Telluride. You’ve already armed yourself with an arsenal of knowledge by joining this forum. I bought my Telluride back in Jan 2020 (ordered Sep 2019) so the market has changed quite a bit since I was in the market. I ordered from Kia of Burlington in Massachusetts for MSRP.

First of all if UVO link cellular internet based remote start and other data functions is important to you, there have been new updates on buying 2022 model KIA’s in MA preventing service activation. It only started for the 2022 model years, I would advise you to reach out to MA dealers to find out more about what this means and what options you have to utilize UVO link. You will probably still have remote start from the fob even if UVO link won’t work. My thread about it below.


There have been a lot of other owners on this forum who have ordered from MA and surrounding areas and and were able to get for MSRP as well. For example, this thread I posted in. Lev Kia of Framingham seems to be a solid choice over the years.

Just use the forum search tool and search areas you are looking in (ie. Massachusetts, Boston, Rhode Island) if you want to get a recommendation for a good dealer.

There is also the nationwide thread for good dealers. Good Dealer Dealings - List Your Good Dealer Experience

If you are willing to purchase out of state, you will have the greatest options for ordering at MSRP and hopefully finding a dealer with an allocation already being made or on it’s way shipping to the dealer that has not been purchased yet.

Here are some other useful threads on how to order and use the Failcat inventory search tool.



Familiarize yourself with the ordering process (Kdealer, KFOS). If a sales manager doesn’t know these words or says buyers are not allowed to order, walk away from that dealer immediately.

If you order, check what place you are in line for ordering and how much volume the dealer gets for Tellurides. A long place in line or a small volume dealer will extend your wait times.

Once you have placed an order, you are at the mercy of the dealer providing any updates on order status. Once your VIN is generated (salesman will share this info or you might be able to find yours on Failcat) it should be more clear when an ETA is in sight. The ETA date will likely change several times before actual delivery, this is normal. When you have a VIN, you can also ask Stephen Cantrell on this forum to lookup the status of your order if your dealer is unresponsive.

When you finally take delivery of the car, make sure you inspect it fully and test drive it to your liking before driving it home. Check for vibration around 60-75 mph speeds if you have an AWD.

It’s definitely a weird way to but a new car, not seeing it in person on the lot before ordering, the crazy demand and insane markups, and buying a KIA brand car for the first time. But it was well worth it for me and many owners on this forum. Good luck!

-T
Thank you so much for all this great information and sorry for the delayed response! At this stage it looks like all orders for the ‘21 are filled so we’ll look to the ‘22 model. Maybe there will be additional color choices or minor updates! I knew before this vehicle was released it was going to be a huge success just on looks alone! Hopefully with this solid information we can get a ‘22 ordered at a fair price!
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Just got a call from Kia of Nashua. They are marking up their Telly’s by $13k. :oops:
 
Wow...insane. Try Jim Brophy, GM@ Gervais Kia in Lowell. Got mine at sticker.
 
new member...will be going shopping soon in MA...we are going to be considering a telluride...hoping to test ride this weekend...sounds like Lowell is a good place to order from...are there any others south of boston selling at MSRP at the moment?...

i also have a few questions...
-does the bluetooth allow storage of multiple phones in all trims?
-does the second row of seats slide for access to the 3rd row (because car seats + 2 dogs)?
-have dogs so which is better, the fake leather or real leather durability-wise?
-is there any way to get the "drivers seat integrated memory system" on a trim lower than SX?
-i usually run my vehicles into high mileage (over 200k)...being a new model i would imagine no one has any experience in that range...just wondering if this car would crush my soul with repairs over its lifetime

as far as options i would be looking at the following...
-tow package
-AWD
-splash guards
-maybe all weather mats (or maybe weathertech or husky)
-not sure about bench seat or captains chairs (i like bench, she likes captains chairs)
-maybe "drivers seat integrated memory system"

any help would be appreciated...thanks
 
i also have a few questions...
-does the bluetooth allow storage of multiple phones in all trims?
I think so. EX and SX for sure. All 2022 trims will have the same navigation head unit as the SX.

-does the second row of seats slide for access to the 3rd row (because car seats + 2 dogs)?
Yes. Depending if you have rear facing or front facing, you may need to slide the front seat forward as well to get the 2nd row to slide enough. If you have a carrier that attaches to a base, just slide and access before loading the carrier.

-have dogs so which is better, the fake leather or real leather durability-wise?
Can’t comment on durability from dog passengers, but my SXP leather has held up fine with kids under 3 for the last 1.5 years.

-is there any way to get the "drivers seat integrated memory system" on a trim lower than SX?
I have not heard any successful attempts to install this aftermarket.

-i usually run my vehicles into high mileage (over 200k)...being a new model i would imagine no one has any experience in that range...just wondering if this car would crush my soul with repairs over its lifetime
Highest mileage owner on the forum at 140k, only had to replace an alternator.

Post in thread '101,000 MILES!!!'
101,000 MILES!!!
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I think so. EX and SX for sure. All 2022 trims will have the same navigation head unit as the SX.


Yes. Depending if you have rear facing or front facing, you may need to slide the front seat forward as well to get the 2nd row to slide enough. If you have a carrier that attaches to a base, just slide and access before loading the carrier.


Can’t comment on durability from dog passengers, but my SXP leather has held up fine with kids under 3 for the last 1.5 years.


I have not heard any successful attempts to install this aftermarket.


Highest mileage owner on the forum at 140k, only had to replace an alternator.

Post in thread '101,000 MILES!!!'
101,000 MILES!!!
thanks!...we went to 2 dealers and neither had 1 of any trim to drive although they did show them on their website...1 dealer said they were 12 months out with orders and the other said they could have one 6-8 weeks but quoted us over $50k for an SX without any options...the wait time alone is enough to deter me but that price is crazy for a kia...i know there is info on here that describes how the ordering process works internally but to have to spend a ton of time researching how it all works just to buy a car seems a little nuts as well...but i guess i may take a look at it...or maybe just opt for a highlander or pilot
 
thanks!...we went to 2 dealers and neither had 1 of any trim to drive although they did show them on their website...1 dealer said they were 12 months out with orders and the other said they could have one 6-8 weeks but quoted us over $50k for an SX without any options...the wait time alone is enough to deter me but that price is crazy for a kia...i know there is info on here that describes how the ordering process works internally but to have to spend a ton of time researching how it all works just to buy a car seems a little nuts as well...but i guess i may take a look at it...or maybe just opt for a highlander or pilot
Yes. Unfortunately this is a highly sought after car and slow production to demand ratio, COVID, and now the chip shortage has kept demand at a level that supply cannot keep up with.

If time is not an issue for you, just find a dealer that will accept orders at MSRP and put down a deposit (should be no more than $1000). Several MA dealers that are have been mentioned in this thread. No need to think about it until your dealer tells you it has been delivered and ready to purchase.

If you want the car now, your only option it to pay sky high prices or research heavily. Or buy another brand as you said.
 
after reading the below thread i just checked out failcat...that is very helpful once i got the hang of using it...i guess my question is...say you find what you want, you just call the dealer where the car is going and reference the VIN number and ask if it's someone's order and ask if they are marking up?...i assume dealers know that this website exists?...i'm not having a ton of luck emailing dealers...they don't seem too hungry...no luck with gervais answering me back, lev was ordered 12 months out, dartmouth has a markup...does someone have a running list of MA dealers without markups?...looks like there are 16 total dealers in MA according to failcat

 
Has anyone dealt with Mastria in Raynham?
+1...anyone???
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