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Ignition Coil goes bad?

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Hey all...

Quick question. I have a 2021 Telluride Nightfall with 3600 miles on it and Wednesday the car started running rough right after I started it...long story short, after 9 hours of waiting for Kia Roadside Service, it got towed to a dealer. Longer story, they discovered that an engine ignition coil was bad. Doing my research, that type of part is usually supposed to last 100K miles...so, what the....

Anyone heard of this type of thing happening on such a new car? I've had the car for five months...sheesh.
 
Sometimes you get a bad part here and there. It's as simple as that.
 
I get that...but I'm curious if anyone else has experienced anything similar...sorry, analysis is a life-long habit. Thanks though.
Around a quarter million Tellurides on the road so we're talking 1.5 million coil packs. I'm guessing there's been a failure or two. Is yours fixed?
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Around a quarter million Tellurides on the road so we're talking 1.5 million coil packs. I'm guessing there's been a failure or two. Is yours fixed?
Not yet...two days for the dealer to order the part....so, Monday...Guess I am too demanding?
 
Not yet...two days for the dealer to order the part....so, Monday...Guess I am too demanding?
That sucks. For all the hassle and waiting, I'd probably just see if the parts store could get one quicker, eat the $40, slam that baby in and be on my way. 😆

Hopefully it's just a bad coil and not a deeper issue. Probably just the coil though.
 
Hey all...

Quick question. I have a 2021 Telluride Nightfall with 3600 miles on it and Wednesday the car started running rough right after I started it...long story short, after 9 hours of waiting for Kia Roadside Service, it got towed to a dealer. Longer story, they discovered that an engine ignition coil was bad. Doing my research, that type of part is usually supposed to last 100K miles...so, what the....

Anyone heard of this type of thing happening on such a new car? I've had the car for five months...sheesh.
Was that 9 hours of waiting on the side of the road?
 
Was that 9 hours of waiting on the side of the road?
The car was parked at home, but essentially it was nine hours of waiting for Kia roadside assistance to do their job...disappointing to say the least.
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The car was parked at home, but essentially it was nine hours of waiting for Kia roadside assistance to do their job...disappointing to say the least.
Did they know you were at home? I am wondering if the call was given lower priority because you weren't on the side of a road somewhere. Not good either way.
 
Did they know you were at home? I am wondering if the call was given lower priority because you weren't on the side of a road somewhere. Not good either way.
Nothing that simple...the third or fourth time I called, they admitted that they had not dispatched a tow initially...sigh....still waiting for the replacement parts...hopefully tomorrow.
 
Did you ever have the same problem again? Same just happened to me. Dealer saying "bad coil and plug" on a 2022 Telluride.
 
Did you ever have the same problem again? Same just happened to me. Dealer saying "bad coil and plug" on a 2022 Telluride.
I have not had that same problem since...knock on wood.

Sorry you are going through it too.
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Doing some research, came across the thread....my '22 Telluride w/ 10k miles is currently in the shop for a bad coil pack. I feel like the issue has been ongoing for a while....is this something that could go on for months or is that unlikely? Trying to assess if the previous jerking I took in for months ago might've been related.....
I do agree that thousands of new Tellurides out there, you're bound to get a bad part here and there.
 
2020 SX. I had to have my first one replaced a year and a half ago, just had that one replaced, again. There was sputtering both times. In other news, I just hit 105k miles and doing well, so far.
 
2022 SX. Bad ignition coil pack resulted in a dangerous driving situation for my wife who says the car seemingly stalled, breaks stiffened up to the point she could not depress / use, and steering became very difficult. She was on an incline in a parking lot of a busy art center for kids and started to roll backwards. Fortunately nobody was hurt, and no damages. Once I got to the car, the ignition system simply would not start / turn over. Stamford CT dealer took over two weeks to diagnose and repair. No explanation about breaks seizing up. Unfortunately, after repairs were completed, we immediately started having a condensation problem (water leakage) from under our glove box. Floor is soaked and don’t want it to damage the electrical under seats, so we are not using A/C. Need to return for proper repairs. Also, during two weeks I had to rent a car bc dealer had no loaners. I still need to submit receipts to warranty and try to get reimbursed. Headaches!
 
Doing some research, came across the thread....my '22 Telluride w/ 10k miles is currently in the shop for a bad coil pack. I feel like the issue has been ongoing for a while....is this something that could go on for months or is that unlikely? Trying to assess if the previous jerking I took in for months ago might've been related.....
I do agree that thousands of new Tellurides out there, you're bound to get a bad part here and there.
Just to add a little validity to this thread from the repair side of things. When I had my BMW shop (small 2 technician specialty shop) we would sell some 60-120 pencil type ignition coils per month. Just like lightbulbs all installed the same time same/circuit, they have a life cycle. If one went bad, we would replace all 4, 6 or 8 (number of cylinders) at the same time. Why? Because most usually the other ones would start failing in short order. PITA for my customers and just made me look bad because I was saving the customer $$$. Comebacks (having to return for the same or associated repair) I never liked or wanted.

Longer version:
Pencil type ignition coils or more commonly known as Coil On Plug (COP) have been around for some 25-30 years. Benefits are much better charging/discharging (what actually makes the spark at the plug) and ability to much faster control the individual ignition timing at each and every cylinder, during each combustion cycle. Also having the ability to be able to shut down an individual cylinder (also the corresponding injector) for the misfiring cylinder after a prolonged period (A OBD 2 requirement after Jan. 1995) so that the misfiring cylinder NO longer spewed raw fuel down the catalyst and the tailpipe.

The downside of the COP system is twofold:
The coil sticks down a long and very hot tube that is the spark plug tube. There it is surrounded by all of the hot coolant (cooling jackets are immediately adjacent there) and very little opportunity for each coil to properly dissipate heat. It's also capped off at the top to prevent any water ingestion.

Then there's the manufacturer (KIA or whomever) that wants Delphi, Toyoda, Mitsubishi or whomever, to make these things available to the Mfr. for a paltry $3 each! There's going to be a high number of failures per 1,000-100,000 whatever the metric is.

Older cars had one or two, three coils mounded on the firewall with ignition wires to each/every cylinder. The coils lived in a cooler (think about that for a moment, under the hood is MUCH cooler than down the spark plug hole!?!) environment and therefore lasted the lifetime of the vehicle and much past the due by date.

Also old and tired spark plugs make each ignition coil work very much harder on each and every combustion (firing event) stroke. Tired and old spark plugs with twice the specified gap will see each coil have to produce some 8-12KV to jump the wide gap. Whereas new plugs would normally see some 4-6 KV needed to fire each plug at highway cruising speed. More KV = more work = more heat = shorter life.

So there you have it, way much more than you ever knew before (?) about coils/ignition systems.

HTH?
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@MrMCar - I'm glad you're back and on this forum - I'm learning a lot from your posts and appreciate the thorough notes. Thank you!
 
2022 SX. Bad ignition coil pack resulted in a dangerous driving situation for my wife who says the car seemingly stalled, breaks stiffened up to the point she could not depress / use, and steering became very difficult. She was on an incline in a parking lot of a busy art center for kids and started to roll backwards. Fortunately nobody was hurt, and no damages. Once I got to the car, the ignition system simply would not start / turn over. Stamford CT dealer took over two weeks to diagnose and repair. No explanation about breaks seizing up. Unfortunately, after repairs were completed, we immediately started having a condensation problem (water leakage) from under our glove box. Floor is soaked and don’t want it to damage the electrical under seats, so we are not using A/C. Need to return for proper repairs. Also, during two weeks I had to rent a car bc dealer had no loaners. I still need to submit receipts to warranty and try to get reimbursed. Headaches!

UPDATE: the leak was due to a clogged condensation drain and was unrelated to the work they did to the ignition coil pack. The same dealer service cleaned it out and did not charge me. They said it was cobwebs that had clogged the drain.
 




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