2020 Telluride AWD rear end jerking thumping and vibrating

[yosM45]

Are these vibrations problem only in cold areas during winter. I am thinking of switching my FWD order option to AWD. Everyone is going with AWD option here.

Are these vibrations problem only in cold areas during winter. I am thinking of switching my FWD order option to AWD. Everyone is going with AWD option here.

No. We live live in Florida. It's warm here. For us, it seems to be more so the car's components (tires, drive line, wheel bearing, CV, etc) are warming up.

We don't need AWD in FL, but you couldn't delete AWD from the Nightfall package. So we were stuck.

 

[smokey_mountain]

My hunch was indeed correct, Telluride is a lottery. I should have stayed away. I just picked up my 2022 EX-P AWD. Test drove it but it was limited to no more than 5 miles (they claimed their policy, take it or leave it). It was an MSRP dealer thus I had to comply. 120 miles into a life of car today and I am cruising at 65-70 when my eardrums sensed "buffeting vibration" some kind of oscillating hum. It started at 66 and stopped at 74 MPH. Entire cabin has it. Not on steering wheel or seat per se but rather entire cabin volume.

Apparently this is a new 2022 special from Kia - the version of the "vibration" - "buffeting oscillating humming vibration". I see complaints about it on NHTSA and here.

Hugely disappointed as now I need to face Kia service 3 times at min and be without a car, which is the absolute worst from what I am reading here. Car is 650 miles 3 days old. I traded in 2022 Atlas for this car, BTW, despite poor value retention Atlas was a great vehicle, Telluride arrived 4 months earlier, I was readying to cancel the order for Telly when they called me that it came in after 7 months wait and I made a leap of faith and traded in the Atlas. I have contacted the dealer asking them to be open-minded and cancel the deal and undid the trade-in. I am so keen to pick up my Atlas back...
Has anyone successfully ever cancelled and undid the deal with the dealer. I know they are business people and need to make money but we are still still humans after all and all can be in similar situation down the road. What a disaster I have in the making but hope is still out there

 

[yosM45]

We sold ours...the dealer said to just wait it out. As is gets worse, they'll be able to find the issues easier.

I sold it. No time to play the keep bringing it to the dealer for a year game with them.

MSRP. 53,200
PAID 50,800
SOLD 55,000

 

[smokey_mountain]

Yes, selling is an option, KBB shows crazy high trade-in on it. We are a single car household. If I sell, there are no 3-row vehicles to buy. What vehicle did you end up buying @yosM45, 3-row?

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[yosM45]

Yes, selling is an option, KBB shows crazy high trade-in on it. We are a single car household. If I sell, there are no 3-row vehicles to buy. What vehicle did you end up buying @yosM45, 3-row?

22 Nissan Armada Platinum. In my wife's opinion it's dramatically better. But we have 4 kids and they were way too tight in the Telly. There so much space on the Armada, the kids can recline thier seats stretch out thier legs.

Telly Pros: Gas mileage and auto driving.

But the Armada's rear entertainment system is fantastic and the built in hotspot is pretty huge.

 

[smokey_mountain]

22 Nissan Armada Platinum. In my wife's opinion it's dramatically better. But we have 4 kids and they were way too tight in the Telly. There so much space on the Armada, the kids can recline thier seats stretch out thier legs.

Telly Pros: Gas mileage and auto driving.

But the Armada's rear entertainment system is fantastic and the built in hotspot is pretty huge.

Thank you. This is the vehicle I was eyeing as well. 4-kids as well here. I know MPG is not good but it is a Japan-built vehicle.

 

[yosM45]

Thank you. This is the vehicle I was eyeing as well. 4-kids as well here. I know MPG is not good but it is a Japan-built vehicle.

The range is the same. Bigger gas tank, but lower mpg. Both got around 380ish on a tank. But a little more at the pump now.

MSRP 70,300
PAID 65,400

So made money on the Telly and saved money on the Armada. Assign a 120k mile/84 month bumper to bumper.

I have to say...with 4 kids, I have to say the Nissan RSE is awesome. We have a Fire stick plugged and charging at the head rest. And the casting from our phone works perfectly. Plus all the kids have thier owner IR wireless headphones or plays through all speakers. Like a I mentioned, we paid the $200 a year for the unlimited hotspot and the car is always online. The quilted seats are nice.

Space..so much space. And the center console in the second row comes out so if you want to make it a true captains chair set up, it's easy to do.

 

[ritholtz]

Yes, selling is an option, KBB shows crazy high trade-in on it. We are a single car household. If I sell, there are no 3-row vehicles to buy. What vehicle did you end up buying @yosM45, 3-row?

I am looking into 3 row vehicles. Placed order for Telluride. In terms of SUV, Toyota highlander was my first option and available in hybrid. But 3rd row is not that usable. Telluride is definitely best game in the town. If you include Mini van, Toyota Sienna is interesting option with Hybrid. But it costs more for similar goodies and with more dealer mark ups. Fit and finish is not great as Telluride. Toyota dealers are worst to deal with.

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[Tellmeride]

Yes, selling is an option, KBB shows crazy high trade-in on it. We are a single car household. If I sell, there are no 3-row vehicles to buy. What vehicle did you end up buying @yosM45, 3-row?

What about the Carnival? Don’t think they have Carnivibe specials with this model.

 

[smokey_mountain]

What about the Carnival? Don’t think they have Carnivibe specials with this model.

We drive up to mountains in Western NC almost every weekend. While AWD is not a replacement for good tires, it does help to have AWD when climb steep driveways. Carnival is a better vehicle than Sienna but does not come with AWD. 2022 Sienna is one of the worst driving and worst for comfort from 15+ family vehicles we have tried. Telluride was comfortable until vibration/buffeting emerged. I wonder if 2022 Palisade are now free from buffeting/vibration issues. I need to sign up on those forums...

 

[Wee]

I have been researching it for a while so far 2022 vibration complaints are not obvious. What I have learned that vibration could be there on the drive test or appear later, there is no easy way to protect yourself from it. It is a risk but looks like small. If we believe all automotive media and Consumer Reports these truck is perfect, and I mean perfect and vibration affects so few vehicles that it really is a non-issue but as someone said here, it is a non-issue until it is you, well said.

We are on our second SXP, 2021 currently and 2020 on the first go. First car had no vibration issues but had other issues. Both were bought in Indiana and I drove them off the lot back home to Florida. Issues did not show up until later. Our 2021 has vibration issues at the 35-50mph and 65+ ranges.

So I'm here because I'm in the Tellyvibe group. I got my car in March. On the drive home (all highway) no issues. I want to say a week later.. On my way to take my kids to school, it started to vibrate at about 68mph. It was so bad I actually was like woah! It did diminish and subsequently stopped. It still happens to this day but not as violent. I have found that it will only do it for about 10 mins at that speed then stop. I have also found that it only happens on my first drive of the day. I've read all the pages of this thread. It's there anyone who is experiencing what I am? (Does it for 10 mins, stops, not consistent (ie. Only first drive of the day)

First time I noticed our SXP vibrate was around the 10k mark on the way home from Daytona to North Florida, shortly there after the dealer had our vehicle for 3 months for a warranty repair. When I got it back the shaking was so bad it felt like driving over cobblestone streets -- it took the car a day or two to settle down but still vibrates today after having the tires re-balanced twice. I will say every now and then it won't vibrate but it's apparent during 98% of drives.

What's odd is that this is my wife's car. She never notices anything wrong. Never complains. The wheels can be falling off and she'd still say the car drives great.

But oddly enough, after 600 mikes she brought up the "honey, something is wrong with the car" conversation. So for her to say it's present, means a lot.

I just told her that there's a whole thread on this and we're not the only ones. I don't know if I want to fight this for a year. At 600 miles, I could probably sell it for what I paid.

She's thinking on it.

We drive back from SC to FL on Saturday and it'll go back to be dealer next week.

I was really hoping that folks on here have gotten some type of repair or solution after 2 years. It appears that Kia is no different than GM.

We are likely going to sell here shortly, paid just under $52,000 OTD and have offers for $51,000 after just over a year of ownership. I've got a new SXP on order which is likely going to be a 2023 model year -- so fingers crossed third time is a winner. I'm also eyeing up the Toyota Grande Highlander that is supposed to get announced this year and waiting to see what updates the Toyota 4Runner gets with the all-new 2023 unit set to launch later this year.



Someone else mentioned earlier they were struggling to describe the vibration sensation, cause it doesn't feel like the wheels are out balance. It's like someone turned on massage gun that you can feel throughout the whole car. It's a very odd sensation and by no means enjoyable.

 

[smokey_mountain]

It will not be easy or possible to get Kia to admit the problem. I have a hard time describing it too. Not a vibration on a steering wheel or seat, but rather "hum that you feel with your eardrums" very unpleasant and is everywhere in the cabin. Buffeting is a bit stronger sensation but this issue is not dissimilar from buffeting. The fact that you are buying 3rd Telluride speaks volume that you like the Telluride ride a lot. My encounter with Kia Telluride is nothing good to say about. Driving $50K vehicle at speed limit while trying to "pop ears" was initially funny before it was not on 9-hour drive.

Someone else mentioned earlier they were struggling to describe the vibration sensation, cause it doesn't feel like the wheels are out balance. It's like someone turned on massage gun that you can feel throughout the whole car. It's a very odd sensation and by no means enjoyable.

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[ultimate175]

It will not be easy or possible to get Kia to admit the problem. I have a hard time describing it too. Not a vibration on a steering wheel or seat, but rather "hum that you feel with your eardrums" very unpleasant and is everywhere in the cabin. Buffeting is a bit stronger sensation but this issue is not dissimilar from buffeting. The fact that you are buying 3rd Telluride speaks volume that you like the Telluride ride a lot. My encounter with Kia Telluride is nothing good to say about. Driving $50K vehicle at speed limit while trying to "pop ears" was initially funny before it was not on 9-hour drive.

I’m not an owner yet, but buffeting makes me think of window/door/tailgate seals. Wrong tree?

 

[smokey_mountain]

I’m not an owner yet, but buffeting makes me think of window/door/tailgate seals. Wrong tree?

Possibly but not very likely, it appears exactly at 67 MPH and stops at 74MPH, I would think f leaky windows/hatch/doors it will be there through wide range of speed. Even if this is a hatch/doors, I stand no chance to get Kia/dealer to fix it.

 

[Javi]

Without experiencing the problem and going by the descriptions...I suspect the torque converter.

 

[smokey_mountain]

@Javi I have not seen torque conver in the vibration thread. Will torque converter be specific to 67-74MPH? I need to get a dealer to consider it, so if you can elaborate a bit why TC, that would help.

Without experiencing the problem and going by the descriptions...I suspect the torque converter.

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[Javi]

@Javi I have not seen torque converter in the vibration thread. Will torque converter be specific to 67-74MPH? I need to get a dealer to consider it, so if you can elaborate a bit why TC, that would help.

It won't be easy to be certain from my keyboard, but I will pass along what I know. The TC can cause, slippage, overheating AND shuddering. It feels like you are driving on a smooth road and all of the sudden it feels like the whole car is riding over a washboard, at first it is intermittent, as the clutches in the TC get worse it happens more often and the shudder goes from barely a sound to the whole car vibrating.

It will change the color and smell of the tranny fluid, something that you can only check under the car, the tranny has a drain plug and a fill plug. I am not urging you to pull any plugs, let the dealer check the condition of the tranny fluid.

This is an opinion from my keyboard not the Gospel, but I hope it offers some help.

 

[Wee]

It won't be easy to be certain from my keyboard, but I will pass along what I know. The TC can cause, slippage, overheating AND shuddering. It feels like you are driving on a smooth road and all of the sudden it feels like the whole car is riding over a washboard, at first it is intermittent, as the clutches in the TC get worse it happens more often and the shudder goes from barely a sound to the whole car vibrating.

It will change the color and smell of the tranny fluid, something that you can only check under the car, the tranny has a drain plug and a fill plug. I am not urging you to pull any plugs, let the dealer check the condition of the tranny fluid.

This is an opinion from my keyboard not the Gospel, but I hope it offers some help.

This is more in line with what the vibration sensation feels like. It's definitely something involved with the mechanics of the drivetrain components. It's that shuddering sensation as if you're driving over a very mild washboard. Hard part is the dealership and mechanics all seem to either struggle to feel it or can't isolate it while digging into each component.

 

[Javi]

This is more in line with what the vibration sensation feels like. It's definitely something involved with the mechanics of the drivetrain components. It's that shuddering sensation as if you're driving over a very mild washboard. Hard part is the dealership and mechanics all seem to either struggle to feel it or can't isolate it while digging into each component.

The dealer don't need to feel anything, just have them check the transmission fluid, it's either good or bad, very simple.
It's not that hard for the dealer to put the car up on the rack and check the transmission fluid, but I guess you're going to have to sell them on it. Good luck.

 

[smokey_mountain]

I went through pain of two GM full size SUVs and GM. What I have learned that if dealer hears from the manufacturer "do not accept", they will never reproduce or detect that complain saying "all within spec". GM told dealers, rough idle in 5.3L is acceptable, if it is under certain large pico value and that was it. I have tried it all. You can ride with them, record videos, bottle-test it but dealer can't care less because GM will not pay that warranty claim to that dealer. Kia is exactly the same based on the 1200+ posts.

All I am asking that dealer to undo the deal, cancel the contract since it is 6 days old and car is 600 miles only. My trade-in is sitting on their lot and I am gladly take it back. Wish me luck to undo this deal. I think this is the most amicable way of resolving it. With GM I did win both of my cases but it look years, a very good attorney, lot's of personal time with 20+ repair and inspection visits. Attorney General was involved and was swift and very effective too. BBB was involved (but frankly my impression that BBB is eating of manufacturers' hands, at least in my state).