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2020 Telluride AWD rear end jerking thumping and vibrating

Another update:

Took the vehicle back to service center. Service rep and mechanic have been great.
Kia still giving them the run around about checking tires and comparing tires/wheels to another Telluride on the lot.

Earlier today the engineers from tech line ask them to balance my wheels again and then compare them to a brand new Telluride and see how the specs differ. After a bunch of push back from myself and the service rep they finally escalated the case to a field technician so they're flying an engineer out here from California.

I understand that hesitation and trying to check the boxes within reason for not wanting to just jump right in and replace every and any warranty part complained about, but some of this is just been silly with the junk that they wanted them to test with us knowing very well with the issues.

Fingers crossed now the field technician will give us the green light to replace the appropriate parts.
I had my appointment today, got told - after waiting over an hour - that the technician wouldn’t even test drive the vehicle to assess the vibration unless I put the factory wheels and tires back on or it wouldn’t be covered by the warranty. Because the wheels and tires are aftermarket, and because I went from the stock 245/50s to a 255/50 tire. Sold the stock stuff weeks ago…
 
I had my appointment today, got told - after waiting over an hour - that the technician wouldn’t even test drive the vehicle to assess the vibration unless I put the factory wheels and tires back on or it wouldn’t be covered by the warranty. Because the wheels and tires are aftermarket, and because I went from the stock 245/50s to a 255/50 tire. Sold the stock stuff weeks ago…
That’s a BS line. If you made a dramatic difference in tire size they might have a real argument. Is it still a 20” run size? Everything else to spec like the offset etc? I would ask them to put that in writing and let them know you plan to contact your BBB and fill out online reviews and see if 10mm is enough for them to sacrifice a reputation of being unreasonable and let them know that this is exactly why the Moss Magnuson Consumer Protection Act is meant for. Then post a thread on this forum on here with the name of the dealer so others know to watch their back.

It’s my understanding they have to give you a reason why they suspect the aftermarket parts are the problem before they refuse warranty service.
 
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So glad I got rid of this car. And made 8k in the process.

I hate manufacturers that don't stand by thier warranty.
Thanks for this update.
That’s a BS line. If you made a dramatic difference in tire size they might have a real argument. I would ask them to put that in writing and let them know you plan to contact your BBB and fill out online reviews and see if 10mm is enough for them to sacrifice a reputation of being unreasonable and let them know that this is exactly why the Moss Magnuson Consumer Protection Act is meant for. Then post a thread on this forum on here with the name of the dealer so others know to watch their back.
 
I had my appointment today, got told - after waiting over an hour - that the technician wouldn’t even test drive the vehicle to assess the vibration unless I put the factory wheels and tires back on or it wouldn’t be covered by the warranty. Because the wheels and tires are aftermarket, and because I went from the stock 245/50s to a 255/50 tire. Sold the stock stuff weeks ago…
To clarify, the tech’s notes just said they need factory stuff to “further diagnose”, it was the service writer who gave me the line about my non-stock tire size voiding my warranty coverage for driveline issues.
That’s a BS line. If you made a dramatic difference in tire size they might have a real argument. Is it still a 20” run size? Everything else to spec like the offset etc? I would ask them to put that in writing and let them know you plan to contact your BBB and fill out online reviews and see if 10mm is enough for them to sacrifice a reputation of being unreasonable and let them know that this is exactly why the Moss Magnuson Consumer Protection Act is meant for. Then post a thread on this forum on here with the name of the dealer so others know to watch their back.
The second part is easy. It’s Lupient Kia in Brooklyn Park, MN. As to the first part, you’re right, they don’t have the legal right to do that. I’m debating how much I care about this particular vehicle and how much of a fight I want to have. Carvana offered me $56,400 a couple weeks ago, and Mazda’s new CX 60 is coming out this summer I believe.
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My Santa Fe had a deep hum at highway spped that was annoying loud. I added a trailer hitch and it went away.
 
Update for anyone with this issue.

Took my car in and had the technician specifically just focusing on the TSB associated with the drive shaft and AWD coupling. TechLine is giving them a bunch of bullshit and trying to avoid replacing the warranty parts causing the trembling/vibration issues.

Looks like it's going to take some pushing back hard on Kia/Techline to get them to play ball.
I too am having an issue with vibration between ~70-80mph that began as soon as I drove off the lot with it. I have had it a now 2 different dealerships to try to get to the root of the problem. They are well aware of my frustration at this point. It’s not like it rattles my teeth but what’s it going to be like when it has 100k miles or more on it? They have ruled out tires, wheels, and alignment. Please update with any update you get about yours!

‘22 Telluride EX AWD wolf gray
 
I too am having an issue with vibration between ~70-80mph that began as soon as I drove off the lot with it. I have had it a now 2 different dealerships to try to get to the root of the problem. They are well aware of my frustration at this point. It’s not like it rattles my teeth but what’s it going to be like when it has 100k miles or more on it? They have ruled out tires, wheels, and alignment. Please update with any update you get about yours!

‘22 Telluride EX AWD wolf gray

This TSB on the vibration issue has been out for a while. Have you asked them about the TSB? It appears they know about it based on the procedure they are using to diagnose it. You should take a copy with you to show them.

Sorry you are having to deal with this. It really kills the new car experience.
 

This TSB on the vibration issue has been out for a while. Have you asked them about the TSB? It appears they know about it based on the procedure they are using to diagnose it. You should take a copy with you to show them.

Sorry you are having to deal with this. It really kills the new car experience.
As a reminder to everyone, prior to the TSB, while experiencing the vibration issue during spring of 2021, 5 k miles, dealer replaced 1 original with very high RFB Micheli it took 2 more to get one that had a decent road force balance result. Rebalanced x 3 and realigned. No better! Still frustrated I reached out to Michelin as I was losing confidence in orig tires. They offered full replacement. I asked about alternative tires and it was offered BF Goodrich Advantage T/A sport LT 245 60 20. Michelin owns them too. Heard about TSB went to 2nd dealer. They went thru the TSB and said they couldn't find a problem. Been working with KIA advanced cust service rep who is useless!!! 2nd dealer suggested I sell this one as prices are high as we all know and order a 2023. Considering that and or lemon law! UGH!!!! I have a gorgeous, white, nightfall edition with tan interior.
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As a reminder to everyone, prior to the TSB, while experiencing the vibration issue during spring of 2021, 5 k miles, dealer replaced 1 original with very high RFB Micheli it took 2 more to get one that had a decent road force balance result. Rebalanced x 3 and realigned. No better! Still frustrated I reached out to Michelin as I was losing confidence in orig tires. They offered full replacement. I asked about alternative tires and it was offered BF Goodrich Advantage T/A sport LT 245 60 20. Michelin owns them too. Heard about TSB went to 2nd dealer. They went thru the TSB and said they couldn't find a problem. Been working with KIA advanced cust service rep who is useless!!! 2nd dealer suggested I sell this one as prices are high as we all know and order a 2023. Considering that and or lemon law! UGH!!!! I have a gorgeous, white, nightfall edition with tan interior.
Sorry, the replacement tires, as you might have assumed, changed nothing! 2nd dealer tried to convince me they were the problem. BS!
 
Just picked up an SX AWD a week ago and drove from Louisville to Cincinnati. At about 70mph there was a general vibration that reminded me of wind turbulence with roof mounted crossbars I had in a previous Highlander. So I took the crossbars off the SX and the problem remains. General vibration at about 65+ and gets better at about 75. I have an appointment tomorrow morning.
Did they ever determine the problem?
 
Did they ever determine the problem?
I have same issue on my 2022 EX with 800 miles. I took it in today and they said tires were not balanced. I drove it home and still at 65-75 it has a vibration I can feel it in my steering whell.
 
Kia sent a "master technician" out from California and he brought his fancy dandy computer and vibration measuring machine.....his end result was two tires were defective for excessive Road Force Vibration (basically saying the tires roll like an egg once under load)

I just got 4 brand new Michelin tires, car still vibrates just the same. OEM tires were from week 53, year 2020 production run. New tires are from week 5, year 2022 production -- tires are too far apart in production to have same issue if there was even a real issue with the tires.

My case has been escalated to two different supervisors with consumer affairs and basically gone no where. We have a 2023 on order, and we may just sell this 2021 SXP now and or start looking into Florida lemon laws and whatever can be done with the attorney general regarding Kia refusing to fix the problem.
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Kia sent a "master technician" out from California and he brought his fancy dandy computer and vibration measuring machine.....his end result was two tires were defective for excessive Road Force Vibration (basically saying the tires roll like an egg once under load)

I just got 4 brand new Michelin tires, car still vibrates just the same. OEM tires were from week 53, year 2020 production run. New tires are from week 5, year 2022 production -- tires are too far apart in production to have same issue if there was even a real issue with the tires.

My case has been escalated to two different supervisors with consumer affairs and basically gone no where. We have a 2023 on order, and we may just sell this 2021 SXP now and or start looking into Florida lemon laws and whatever can be done with the attorney general regarding Kia refusing to fix the problem.

Kia sent a "master technician" out from California and he brought his fancy dandy computer and vibration measuring machine.....his end result was two tires were defective for excessive Road Force Vibration (basically saying the tires roll like an egg once under load)

I just got 4 brand new Michelin tires, car still vibrates just the same. OEM tires were from week 53, year 2020 production run. New tires are from week 5, year 2022 production -- tires are too far apart in production to have same issue if there was even a real issue with the tires.

My case has been escalated to two different supervisors with consumer affairs and basically gone no where. We have a 2023 on order, and we may just sell this 2021 SXP now and or start looking into Florida lemon laws and whatever can be done with the attorney general regarding Kia refusing to fix the problem.
Thanks for sharing your post. On March 21 2022, KIA escalated my case. My contact has proved to be useless just like everyone has found. Here is what they emailed to me, maybe it will help if we all call them.

In the event that you believe Kia has been unable to satisfactorily address the concern, a special alternative resolution program called BBB AUTO LINE is available to you. This independent program is administered by BBB National Programs and is provided at no cost to you. You may contact them at: BBB AUTO LINE a Division of BBB National Programs, Inc. 1676 International Drive, Suite 550, McLean, VA 22102; Ph: (800) 955-5100.
 
Thanks for sharing your post. On March 21 2022, KIA escalated my case. My contact has proved to be useless just like everyone has found. Here is what they emailed to me, maybe it will help if we all call them.

In the event that you believe Kia has been unable to satisfactorily address the concern, a special alternative resolution program called BBB AUTO LINE is available to you. This independent program is administered by BBB National Programs and is provided at no cost to you. You may contact them at: BBB AUTO LINE a Division of BBB National Programs, Inc. 1676 International Drive, Suite 550, McLean, VA 22102; Ph: (800) 955-5100.
Yes the "supervisors" that these cases are escalated to do not call you back. I have to call them constantly to chase them down and wait on hold for 40min every time, it is very frustrating.

I got my case manager on the phone Friday and she kept saying "so what do you want us to do?"
Fix MY FREAKING CAR YOU TWAT!!

So here's where we are at now. Kia and my case manager are working to get the field technician to come out again and readdress the situation. In the meantime I requested they send me the paperwork to fill out for them to consider buying the vehicle back from me, which oddly they were very welcoming to the idea. It almost further even more concerning that when I told them
"Please either fix my car and stop the games of 'you need new tires' or buy the car back"
her response was...
"If you would like us to consider buying the vehicle back I will send you the paperwork and it will take up to two weeks to consider. Which email can I send the papers?"
 
Yes the "supervisors" that these cases are escalated to do not call you back. I have to call them constantly to chase them down and wait on hold for 40min every time, it is very frustrating.

I got my case manager on the phone Friday and she kept saying "so what do you want us to do?"
Fix MY FREAKING CAR YOU TWAT!!

So here's where we are at now. Kia and my case manager are working to get the field technician to come out again and readdress the situation. In the meantime I requested they send me the paperwork to fill out for them to consider buying the vehicle back from me, which oddly they were very welcoming to the idea. It almost further even more concerning that when I told them
"Please either fix my car and stop the games of 'you need new tires' or buy the car back"
her response was...
"If you would like us to consider buying the vehicle back I will send you the paperwork and it will take up to two weeks to consider. Which email can I send the papers?"
Wee, thanks for this post. I will call my rep on Monday and reference your buyback offer. Coincidentally I was completing the annual Consumer Reports survey and wrote this up, urging them to contact me for more details. I just drove 240 VIBRATING miles to and from Connecticut this weekend!
 
Wee, thanks for this post. I will call my rep on Monday and reference your buyback offer. Coincidentally I was completing the annual Consumer Reports survey and wrote this up, urging them to contact me for more details. I just drove 240 VIBRATING miles to and from Connecticut this weekend!
Same here I drove 800 mile round trip and I still feel the vibration as I am writing it was a miserable trip. Mine is a 22 EX with now 1600 miles. I took it in on 5/9 and at first they called and stated that they do not feel the vibration. I said it starts at 65 which I had already told them. They called back and said it was the tires not balanced and it is ready. I drove home same thing and called while driving home. I am positive they did not take it for a drive after they balanced the wheeIs . I let them know I was taking a trip and would let them know. I called friday on the road 5/12/22 and said it was miserable. I dropped it off yesterday 5/15/22
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Same here I drove 800 mile round trip and I still feel the vibration as I am writing it was a miserable trip. Mine is a 22 EX with now 1600 miles. I took it in on 5/9 and at first they called and stated that they do not feel the vibration. I said it starts at 65 which I had already told them. They called back and said it was the tires not balanced and it is ready. I drove home same thing and called while driving home. I am positive they did not take it for a drive after they balanced the wheeIs . I let them know I was taking a trip and would let them know. I called friday on the road 5/12/22 and said it was miserable. I dropped it off yesterday

Same here I drove 800 mile round trip and I still feel the vibration as I am writing it was a miserable trip. Mine is a 22 EX with now 1600 miles. I took it in on 5/9 and at first they called and stated that they do not feel the vibration. I said it starts at 65 which I had already told them. They called back and said it was the tires not balanced and it is ready. I drove home same thing and called while driving home. I am positive they did not take it for a drive after they balanced the wheeIs . I let them know I was taking a trip and would let them know. I called friday on the road 5/12/22 and said it was miserable. I dropped it off yesterday 5/15/22
I'm sure there are many more Telluride owners who think it's the road and not the vehicle. My wife thought it was the road. We were cruising at 80mph when I asked her and my daughter, who was in the 2nd row, what they were feeling? The rumble/vibration is there until you slow to about 40mph. I recommend we reference each others rep experience every time we speak with KIA. Publicizing this would help us and we'd find more owners to help escalate this to a solution or possible buyback by KIA.
 
I'm sure there are many more Telluride owners who think it's the road and not the vehicle. My wife thought it was the road. We were cruising at 80mph when I asked her and my daughter, who was in the 2nd row, what they were feeling? The rumble/vibration is there until you slow to about 40mph. I recommend we reference each others rep experience every time we speak with KIA. Publicizing this would help us and we'd find more owners to help escalate this to a solution or possible buyback by KIA.
So my Kia dealer called me back and said a tire was not balanced and maybe their machine did not do it right and it was ready BUT they can not drive it above posted speed limit which is 60 but it drove great at 60. I am pasted pissed off. I told them I will be there at 4 and need someone to drive with me at 70 to make sure it is fixed. I will let you know how that goes
 
I just got 4 brand new Michelin tires, car still vibrates just the same. OEM tires were from week 53, year 2020 production run. New tires are from week 5, year 2022 production -- tires are too far apart in production to have same issue if there was even a real issue with the tires.

My case has been escalated to two different supervisors with consumer affairs and basically gone no where. We have a 2023 on order, and we may just sell this 2021 SXP now and or start looking into Florida lemon laws and whatever can be done with the attorney general regarding Kia refusing to fix the problem.
Why would you go with the same manufacturer if they’ve put you through the ringer already? I’d look elsewhere honestly.
 
Sorry, the replacement tires, as you might have assumed, changed nothing! 2nd dealer tried to convince me they were the problem. BS!
The TSB is pretty straight forward;
1 - road force balance the tires & wheels, if tires/wheels are balanced within spec and vibration is not fixed then...
2 - test with propeller shaft (drive shaft removed) if vibration is not present with drive shaft removed, replace the drive shaft and retest; if vibration is not fixed then...
3- replace the AWD coupler and retest if vibration is not fixed call Techline.

Are they following the TSB? If not that's the complaint to make to KIA home office; KIA should then force the dealer to follow the TSB....

I had my appointment today, got told - after waiting over an hour - that the technician wouldn’t even test drive the vehicle to assess the vibration unless I put the factory wheels and tires back on or it wouldn’t be covered by the warranty. Because the wheels and tires are aftermarket, and because I went from the stock 245/50s to a 255/50 tire. Sold the stock stuff weeks ago…
The reason the tech will not test your car is the first step in the TSB is to road force balance the tires & wheels to eliminate them as the cause. Since KIA did not supply those tires & wheels they are not under KIA warranty and KIA has no obligation to test, repair, or replace them.

For this case let's suppose the tires/wheels are found to be causing the vibration, is KIA now responsible to repair/replace parts they did not supply?

Basically the tech can't move forward with the diagnosis because KIA will not pay to road force balance tires & wheels they did not supply nor will KIA replace a drive shaft and or AWD coupling (much more expensive than tire rebalance) without first eliminating the tire & wheels as cause. The tire size change is not the issue. Additionally the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act does not force a company to cover products they did not supply (i.e. aftermarket tires & wheels).
 




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