Asking AI ~ ChatGPT the "Factory Radio" question. Here's it's response!

[TellurideCoug]

Feel like it comes from the Almighty. A perfect answer in less than 2 seconds:

TellurideCoug:

"Why do factory car radios sound so bad? Why do car manufactures call out and install "premium" radios in the the top of the line trim, but it sounds like crap, compared to after market radios, speakers and amps?"

AI ~ ChatGPT:

"There can be several reasons why factory car radios may not sound as good as aftermarket alternatives:

1. Cost considerations: Car manufacturers often prioritize cost-effectiveness when selecting audio components for their vehicles. They may opt for lower-quality speakers, amplifiers, or audio processing systems to keep production costs down. This can result in lower overall audio quality.
2. Limited customization options: Factory car radios are designed to cater to a wide range of customers and preferences. This often means that the audio settings and equalization are set to a general, balanced sound profile that may not suit everyone's preferences. Aftermarket radios and audio systems, on the other hand, offer more customization options and features, allowing users to tailor the sound to their liking.
3. Integration challenges: Factory car radios need to seamlessly integrate with the vehicle's electrical and control systems. This integration process can sometimes limit the performance or capabilities of the audio system. Aftermarket systems, on the other hand, can be installed with more flexibility and customization options, allowing for better sound quality.
4. Brand partnerships: Car manufacturers often collaborate with well-known audio brands to create "premium" audio systems for their top-of-the-line trims. While these partnerships can add brand value and marketing appeal, the actual audio quality may still fall short compared to dedicated aftermarket audio brands that specialize in producing high-quality sound systems.

It's important to note that not all factory car radios sound bad, and some higher-end factory audio systems can provide a decent audio experience. However, if you're seeking superior audio quality or more customization options, investing in an aftermarket audio system with higher-quality components, speakers, and amplifiers might be a better option for you."

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

From my own investigation, I've learned that your #3 is especially true.
Good article as all the points play a role.

 

[scottw324]

I'm going to go with No. 1 or 2.

They are marketing this car to the 99% who are looking for luxury but without the additional cost of $10K+ more. Their target audience isn't the 1% of audiophiles looking for a sound booth on wheels. For the 99% of their customers, the premium system in the SX/SXP are more than enough for them. I cam from a base 2013 Explorer with no options and 6 speakers, no subwoofer. So the '22 SXP is more than enough and sounds fantastic to me and my passengers.

To each their own, and I respect that. If putting in $5-10K of audio components into your Telly is your thing and will make you enjoy it more, by all means, knock yourself out. We all do mods to the car based on our own priorities and desires.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

If putting in $5-10K of audio components into your Telly is your thing and will make you enjoy it more, by all means, knock yourself out. We all do mods to the car based on our own priorities and desires.

I would only add that your $5-10K is spot-on if you use a local audio store. However, Crutchfield - a volume dealer if you have one nearby - can greatly lower that price down to around $2k (parts and labor) using excellent components.

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[TellurideCoug]

From my own investigation, I've learned that your #3 is especially true.
Good article as all the points play a role.

Totally agree. In essence, here's the bottom line.

"This integration process can sometimes limit the performance or capabilities of the audio system."

My instal was just yesterday. As a recap, this is what my guy installed:

• JL Audio XDM800/8 Channel amp.
• Wavtech Link8 (LOC) Line Output Converter/Processor.
• Focal 165AS component integrated speakers (pair) for front doors, (woofer and tweeter).
• Focal 165AS component integrated speakers (pair) for rear doors, (woofer and tweeter).
• Focal P 20 FSE 8” Shallow Sub.
• JL Audio HD-RLC, HD Amp Remote Level Control and Cable.
• SoundShield Car Sound Deadening Door Kit Mats - 4 Rolls. This covers all four doors.
• Blackhole High Efficiency Accoustical Absorption Tiles ~ 40 pack of Foam Tiles. This covers all four doors.

ON ORDER TO BE INSTALLED replacing the factory Rear Surrounds in the Cargo, (3rd Row) Side Panels: These are mid-range speakers:
JL Audio C2-350x. Evolution™ C2 Series 3-1/2" 2-way car speakers


Am I blown away? Yes and No.

Does it sound much better than the factory crap? Yes.

Rate it: I give it an 9. Happy. Just sat in the 2nd row auditioning Dreams. Phenomenal. I feel the 2nd row soundstage is better than the driver's seat.

Why not a 10? I don't know. Probably because we can't change out the factory integration display, so we're limited. Granted, I've only had it for less than a day. Can't put my finger on it. Big soundstage, though.

My demo song: Dreams by Fleetwood Mac. What am I looking for in Dreams? The Symbol Crash during the songs intro....about 2 seconds in at the beginning. Does the symbol crash meet my standards? Yes, about a 9.

What's the biggest let down or negative? Ear Fatigue. I've got pain and pressure in my ears, even as I write this the following morning of my install.

From AI ChatGPT:

1. Consult a professional installer: If the issue persists, it would be beneficial to consult a professional car audio installer. They can assess your specific installation and make any necessary adjustments or recommendations to improve the sound quality and alleviate ear fatigue.

Remember, everyone's ears are different, and what might be comfortable for one person may not be for another. It's important to find a balance that allows you to enjoy the audio system without causing discomfort or strain on your ears.

Bottom line: I need to get my system tuned up the way I like it and so it doesn't cause ear fatigue. However, we are limited to the tune up, because of the integrated factory display. Since there's no head unit to replace like with a Kenwood.....we are limited.

And that's the bottom line, but very happy, it's a 9, and the second row blows me away.

 

[TellurideCoug]

I'm going to go with No. 1 or 2.

They are marketing this car to the 99% who are looking for luxury but without the additional cost of $10K+ more. Their target audience isn't the 1% of audiophiles looking for a sound booth on wheels. For the 99% of their customers, the premium system in the SX/SXP are more than enough for them. I cam from a base 2013 Explorer with no options and 6 speakers, no subwoofer. So the '22 SXP is more than enough and sounds fantastic to me and my passengers.

To each their own, and I respect that. If putting in $5-10K of audio components into your Telly is your thing and will make you enjoy it more, by all means, knock yourself out. We all do mods to the car based on our own priorities and desires.

Without totalling up all my receipts, I think I'm at around $2,600 -$2,900 for all components, parts and labor. 3 months from now...I won't even think back about the $2,600. If I keep the car for 4 more years.....to me it's worth every penny.

Remember I went to Abt Electronics for true discount savings, and Crutchfield for a few items.

Like you said..."to each their own". That's why they sell Subaru's and Motorcycles!

 

[PittPa]

I'm going to go with No. 1 or 2.

They are marketing this car to the 99% who are looking for luxury but without the additional cost of $10K+ more. Their target audience isn't the 1% of audiophiles looking for a sound booth on wheels. For the 99% of their customers, the premium system in the SX/SXP are more than enough for them. I cam from a base 2013 Explorer with no options and 6 speakers, no subwoofer. So the '22 SXP is more than enough and sounds fantastic to me and my passengers.

To each their own, and I respect that. If putting in $5-10K of audio components into your Telly is your thing and will make you enjoy it more, by all means, knock yourself out. We all do mods to the car based on our own priorities and desires.

Feel the same way, no offense for those that want something different. I've been doing a lot of long drives and have been streaming spotify through wireless AA, playing Sirius when it suits us, playing at a level all can enjoy but still converse. Never did I get upset about what Kia should of done from the audio end. I guess I was supposed to be angry?

 

[TellurideCoug]

Update on Ear Fatigue.

I think I've solved the problem. On the JL Audio XDM800 Amp, I turned down the GAIN (Input Sens.) a notch on Channels 1-4. I don't seem to have Ear Fatigue or Ear Pressure Fatigue.

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