Anyone else feel like 10 minute remote start is to low?

[BasilFawlty]

I guess you’ll have to remote start twice then if it’s such a concern

Or it would be nice if they gave you an option to have it run longer. That would be easy for them to do.

 

[qwikhit]

Agreed; does anyone think that’s an option in coming models? I mean let’s not stress over things we can’t change. There are a few things I would like this Telly to do that it doesn’t.

 

[BasilFawlty]

Agreed; does anyone think that’s an option in coming models? I mean let’s not stress over things we can’t change. There are a few things I would like this Telly to do that it doesn’t.

I'm not stressed - I live in New Mexico LOL.

 

[qwikhit]

Me either

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[locorecto]

I am certain everyone, including myself, love to get into a warm car during the winter/cold. It's painful to get in a cold car in the morning when it's 15 degrees outside. However, there is an adverse effect on leaving the car idling for longer than ~ 1 minute in the cold.

Whenever you start you engine cold, gas doesn't evaporate as quickly as when the engine is warm. So the ECU compensates by making the air/fuel mixture rich. That rich mixture coming from the injectors, leaves unburn gas behind in the cylinder which acts as a solvent washing off the motor oil from the cylinder walls and the piston rings and therefore increasing the friction. As the car warms up, the air/gas mixture becomes normal and this process normalizes.

Normally, if you drive right away the car engine warms up pretty quickly. However if you are idling cold, the warm up process takes longer and the time the cylinder walls and the piston rings are exposed to higher friction is also longer. In the long run, this could lead to worn piston rings, excessive oil consumption, or even engine failure.

Even the KT owners manual says not to wait for the engine to warm up idling. Look at the attached picture.

With this, I am not discouraging anyone to take advantage of your car features. I am just making people aware that the longer your car sits idling cold, the worst the effect on the engine on the long run.

Please take a look at this article from BI where they talk to phd Mechanical Engineers about this problem.

Stop hurting your engine by idling the car when it's cold out

 

[BasilFawlty]

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With this, I am not discouraging anyone to take advantage of your car features. I am just making people aware that the longer your car sits idling cold, the worst the effect on the engine on the long run.

Please take a look at this article from BI where they talk to phd Mechanical Engineers about this problem.

Stop hurting your engine by idling the car when it's cold out

Thanks for posting - some very informative and useful information that is worth thinking about!

 

[DarkMossJustin]

My previous vehicle I could set remote start to 5, 10, 15 or 20. Living in Minnesota 10 minutes seems so low anyone else feel the same? Maybe some day that can be a over the air update?

I'm good with 10 minutes. Gives the engine plenty of time to warm up, me to walk to the car. Also, if you have the climate control option, 10 minutes of cooling or heating is plenty.

I'm not sure why Kia chose 10 minutes. Could it be a liability thing? If some pets or a child mistakenly found their way into a garage or closed carport and sucked down 10 minutes of exhaust they could survive, but any more could potentially be fatal?

That being said, I'm not opposed to some form of adjustability. If Kia can make it adjustable -5 or +5 minutes to shorten or extend the start, that would potentially be useful to a number of drivers.

 

[gman1868]

I guess you’ll have to remote start twice then if it’s such a concern

Batteries tend to die quickly in cold temps.

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[qwikhit]

You’re one of those “my answer is the only right answer”. How about building out a heated garage? Oh wait that doesn’t help if you’re not at home. Well dang I guess Kia just needs to extend the time on remote starts Good luck

 

[gman1868]

You’re one of those “my answer is the only right answer”. How about building out a heated garage? Oh wait that doesn’t help if you’re not at home. Well dang I guess Kia just needs to extend the time on remote starts Good luck

If you and I have a different opinion, that's cool. It doesn't seem to make sense why mine seems to bother you. #hugs

 

[Ronb]

My previous vehicle I could set remote start to 5, 10, 15 or 20. Living in Minnesota 10 minutes seems so low anyone else feel the same? Maybe some day that can be a over the air update?

I agree with you. My Jeep GC ran for 15 minutes. And I could set the seat heater and steering wheel to heat up during the winter and cool the seats in the summer. Should be an easy software update.

 

[PassingTime]

I have had remote start installed in several past cars and they asked me how long I wanted it set for up to 20 min. I always chose the longer time because that gave me the flexibility to turn it off sooner. That being said, I don't think I ever used a longer setting because I felt that after 3-4 minutes the car was ready to go. Lubricants warm up faster when you are moving and so the engine warms up faster hence more heat inside. I also set my heater fan on low and temperature to a lower setting to begin. Setting faster/higher allows more coolant to flow from the heater core so engine has more coolant to warm. Seems to warm up the interior faster than running fan full blast and heater at highest temp. I have never had an issue of my cars 'warming up' inside or out with this procedure unless there is something wrong like a faulty thermostat or low coolant level or possibly air in the cooling system. I don't like to idle my cars any longer than necessary because I don't see much benefit heating interior quickly and it results in wasted fuel and generally not good for the engine. This is my experience and most of my cars go about 200,000 miles (or 1 head on deer crash/totaled wreck) before looking for a replacement so it doesn't seem to hurt the drive train. Yes this comes from climates where I have been in very extreme cold.

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[Old_guyz_cool_carz]

Just hit it again for 10 more minutes, not a big deal

Except it takes 2 minutes to do on Uvo . The defrosted windshield refreezes in that time . But seriously, I agree with you.

 

[qwikhit]

I’ve never had to wait 2 mins for a UVO start

 

[leninator]

My issue with the 10 minute rule is if you have a layer of ice on your car, 10 minutes doesn't begin to help loosen that up. I'm glad I found this thread because I couldn't find anything about how long it would run with remote in the owners manual or anywhere else. You've answered my question so I guess it will be a restart after 10 minutes.

 

[Pizzaguy]

I think my jeep gc ran for more than 10 but even in single digit temperatures it blew warm air soooon fast from dead cold. I haven’t paid attention to how fast the telluride hears up yet. The full blower speed sounds like a jet though lol.. not having climate controls in infotainment is also a little strange

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[leninator]

That's what I end up doing. My reason for starting is to clean the windows and windshield of ice. I understand the car heats up quickly once driving but ice is another issue.

 

[IslandAli]

10 minutes is not enough in Minnesota. This feature has definitely been very disappointing to me.

 

[JonFar111]

It starts and runs. App tells me it's running and I even get an email telling me.
In 10 minutes it stops and the app / email tell me again.
If it's wicked cold or snowy/icy, then I run it again.
Pushing the app start button for a second time really doesn't seem that inconvenient to me...

 

[gman1868]

It starts and runs. App tells me it's running and I even get an email telling me.
In 10 minutes it stops and the app / email tell me again.
If it's wicked cold or snowy/icy, then I run it again.
Pushing the app start button for a second time really doesn't seem that inconvenient to me...

For those of us that live with sub-zero temps in the winter, the repeated starts with a cold battery kills them. The car has to be running for 15-20 minutes minimum to get some of hte charge back and wrm up the engine compartment enough to warm up the battery too. I would prefer to be able to set the duration and make it longer in the cold weather.