So ended up with a Telly at a great price. Seems prices have dropped a lot at some dealers and other dealers are not wanting to work at all on price even though demand seems to be lower than supply right now. But got an awesome price from a local dealer but had to sign a non disclosure so cant say anything else about it which is a shame. But put it this way another person paid $7k more than us as we were there buying ours as they didn't haggle at all. It's the wife's car in the end but some of these dealers really need to learn about the products they are selling. it's pretty sad that with just a couple hours reading about the vehicle I knew more than the sales guy whos been doing it 12 years. They were trying to show us how good the sound system on the car is with sirius radio too. didn't know that was still a thing cars sales people did. it sounded awful! They were also boasting about how quick it is too. The guys telling my wife to floor and she does and it hardly feels like it's moving! Just a weird dated experience overall with this dealer. She's there to buy a SUV not a sports car with thumping sound system.