I’m wondering if anyone has installed an auto stop eliminator on their 2025 Telluride. I’m very disappointed that you must turn the auto stop feature off each time you start the vehicle. From what I have researched the auto stop eliminator allows “your choice” to remain until you push the button again. Something I think the designers at KIA should have thought of. I’m wondering if installing this device would affect the warranty?
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Question about the auto stop feature
- Thread author Greg Clay
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Auto manufactures implemented the technology as a means of meeting federal fuel efficiency and emissions standards. Part of the deal is that the system must be enabled by default each time you start the car to qualify as meeting those standards.... that was not a decision by Kia. There are many existing discussions about it already in this forum.
The very first thing I added to my '25 SXP was an auto stop eliminator . Works great, extremely easy install. Can't say if it would affect warranty, but just remove it before taking it to the dealer if it's a concern.... 3-4 minutes to remove it.
Word has it that the auto stop-start system will be dropped from new car production soon.
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I've installed it and been to the dealer a couple of times without any questions or issues. It is the most flawless upgrade I've ever done to a car. Installed it in 5 minutes and it has worked 100% of the time with zero issues. Worth every penny!
I appreciate your reply. I agree I will just remove it if needed. I will also learn how to navigate this forum so I don’t Al questions that appear to have been already answered. Thanks
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I never thought about that but I’m sure you are correct! Thanks
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I Just searched before ordering and found a code WELCOMEBACK gets 10% off order at autostopeliminator.com. I'm ordering this thing now. One of the most ridiculous automotive government mandates yet. So glad I won't have to remember to push that stupid button every time, and glad to support a company that makes it easy for everyone to disable it. I could do the resistor trick pretty easily but I like this clean solution. My new-to-me Telluride is getting hooked up.
byscott
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How often do you all see ISG (auto start/stop) actually being activated?
I usually see the amber “A” symbol (ISG not active) rather than the green “A.” Not flashing (malfunction), just solid. I never gave it much thought, because the climate control is usually running and I just assumed that the engine wouldn’t shut down under those conditions.
It never occurred to me, but I suppose there could be some sort of problem in the ISG system; when I remember, I usually turn the damn thing off anyway. I guess I’ll ask the dealer about this the next time I take it in for service.
I usually see the amber “A” symbol (ISG not active) rather than the green “A.” Not flashing (malfunction), just solid. I never gave it much thought, because the climate control is usually running and I just assumed that the engine wouldn’t shut down under those conditions.
It never occurred to me, but I suppose there could be some sort of problem in the ISG system; when I remember, I usually turn the damn thing off anyway. I guess I’ll ask the dealer about this the next time I take it in for service.
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In Florida, spring, summer, and fall, the AC is always on. It always stops the engine at traffic lights, so the ac slows way down and isn't cold. So mine is permanently disabled (via the zip tie method) for my comfort 100% of the time. No regrets.
Mine as well. Anytime I stop with my foot on the brake and transmission in Drive. The engine shuts down. With AC on or off.
byscott
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Huh. I guess I have something going on … maybe my battery isn’t carrying a full charge. I guess I should have it checked out, but I’m not exactly losing sleep over it. If there’s one thing on this car that I can live without, it’s definitely the ISG.
No need to spread false information. Auto start / stop starters are fundamentally different from regular (older) starters. They are designed to handle the higher frequency loads and unique needs of auto stop.
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Well no matter how much better or different these alternators are they will last much longer when they’re not starting the vehicle every five minutes. My alternator should now last the life of the car! Lol
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As a former shop owner (46 years) I can assure you, I'm not spreading false information. In fact, starters have become a victim of the modern manufacturing philosophy; How much lighter, cheaper can you produce this for us?
The armatures have been using less copper, the commutators less contact area and overall longevity has suffered. Directly witnessed by the number of starter replacements we had at my shop. After the advent of stop-start. All in the name of raising up the MPG rating (it's all about sales) to the consumer.
More advanced hybrid machinery will have a very large alternator (sometimes called the "E Machine") placed inside the bell housing of the transmission. The engine computer will ramp up some current to get the crankshaft spinning, add some fuel & spark to the next 3 cylinders in the firing order and the car re-fires without a starter. Starter being a small electric motor that uses teeth to engage a ring gear on the flywheel, as opposed to the E Machine getting things spinning again without meshing gears.
My wife's Toyota Crown does this. My Telly doesn't therefore, always gets this gas saving feature turned off.
But wait, there's more: Do we like the engine stopping when hot, at a light and heat soaking. Now all of the bearings in the "lower end" are dripping out oil and waiting a half second for a restart and a resupply of oil, from the pump back up to the bearing journals. With increased friction, albeit momentarily over and over and over again. Generally NOT a good idea for the long game.
The armatures have been using less copper, the commutators less contact area and overall longevity has suffered. Directly witnessed by the number of starter replacements we had at my shop. After the advent of stop-start. All in the name of raising up the MPG rating (it's all about sales) to the consumer.
More advanced hybrid machinery will have a very large alternator (sometimes called the "E Machine") placed inside the bell housing of the transmission. The engine computer will ramp up some current to get the crankshaft spinning, add some fuel & spark to the next 3 cylinders in the firing order and the car re-fires without a starter. Starter being a small electric motor that uses teeth to engage a ring gear on the flywheel, as opposed to the E Machine getting things spinning again without meshing gears.
My wife's Toyota Crown does this. My Telly doesn't therefore, always gets this gas saving feature turned off.
But wait, there's more: Do we like the engine stopping when hot, at a light and heat soaking. Now all of the bearings in the "lower end" are dripping out oil and waiting a half second for a restart and a resupply of oil, from the pump back up to the bearing journals. With increased friction, albeit momentarily over and over and over again. Generally NOT a good idea for the long game.
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I just installed my Autostop Eliminator 10 minutes ago, it took about 10 min. to install. I haven't driven it yet but seems to work and the setting is remembered after completely turning off the ignition and switching car back on. 
QUICK SUMMARY OF SOLUTION OPTIONS
1. Install an electronic device in-line with switch wiring. Switch can still be used to toggle on\off. Button is either set to disable function at every start up, or to save the last button setting perpetually. Cost around $100. Install time 1 hour or less. Fully hidden.
Place a mechanical wedge pushed downwards, along the side of button, to hold button depressed all the time. That will disable function at every start up. Install time under 1 minute. Few ways are:
2. a 3D printed wedge. Cost around $10. Visible, but best looking of these options.
3. a zip tie (cut to about 1 inch long). Cost pennies or free. Visible, but tiny.
4. a folded chunk of paper, plastic lump, or some other random object. Cost free. Visible, and ugly.
There is one other possibility. Since this is all on the computer data bus, I'm wondering if something can send a "that button was just pressed" command upon starting the car. If that can be done, so do the same thing for the lane tracking button on the steering wheel, and the climate control switch for the passenger seat. And maybe even the infotainment start up "I agree" button (rather than waiting for it to time out)
1. Install an electronic device in-line with switch wiring. Switch can still be used to toggle on\off. Button is either set to disable function at every start up, or to save the last button setting perpetually. Cost around $100. Install time 1 hour or less. Fully hidden.
Place a mechanical wedge pushed downwards, along the side of button, to hold button depressed all the time. That will disable function at every start up. Install time under 1 minute. Few ways are:
2. a 3D printed wedge. Cost around $10. Visible, but best looking of these options.
3. a zip tie (cut to about 1 inch long). Cost pennies or free. Visible, but tiny.
4. a folded chunk of paper, plastic lump, or some other random object. Cost free. Visible, and ugly.
There is one other possibility. Since this is all on the computer data bus, I'm wondering if something can send a "that button was just pressed" command upon starting the car. If that can be done, so do the same thing for the lane tracking button on the steering wheel, and the climate control switch for the passenger seat. And maybe even the infotainment start up "I agree" button (rather than waiting for it to time out)
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If you have a 3D printer or CNC machine to make the perfect shim/wedge, awesome.
If you don’t care about exact OCD dimensions or aesthetics and want the quick and easy without much investment of capital, various guitar picks and a Dremel tool will also work wonders to keep the button depressed.
If you don’t care about exact OCD dimensions or aesthetics and want the quick and easy without much investment of capital, various guitar picks and a Dremel tool will also work wonders to keep the button depressed.
I replaced it early on (2024 model) to reduce engine and starter wear. What is nice is that the functionality isn't gone, it just retains the setting when the engine was previously shut off. Frankly, aside from occasional posts here, I completely forgot about it.
byscott
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OK, I’m sold. Just ordered the Autostop Eliminator. 90 bucks with the WELCOMEBACK code seems like a small enough price to pay to get rid of this nuisance.
