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2020 SX Seat Adjustment

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I searched for similar issues, but didn't find anyone with precisely this issue:

My driver seat will not adjust forward until you first move the switch backward. It will then move forward using the switch.

This renders the memory function inoperative, because if the memorized position is forward of the current position, the seat won't move.

Dealer has replaced switch twice and contacted Kia engineering once.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
 
My driver seat will not adjust forward until you first move the switch backward. It will then move forward using the switch.
This renders the memory function inoperative, because if the memorized position is forward of the current position, the seat won't move.
Interestingly I had a similar issue on my wife's 2021 SX-P, driver seat back would not adjust forward until the switch was momentarily moved to recline first. In addition when using the memory buttons all seat adjustments worked except the seat back which would move to a full recline position if either memory button was selected.

Kia replaced the seat memory module which corrected the issue when using the memory buttons; however, it did not fix the seat back refusing to move forward until you moved the switch momentarily to recline first.

They recently replaced the seat control switch which also did not fix this issue. They are now waiting for Kia engineering input to decide what to do next.
 
I’m sure it’s just a momentary back push of the switch?
 
I’m sure it’s just a momentary back push of the switch?
Yes, that's true... just a qwickhit, so to speak;). the real issue is that it renders the memory switches inoperative. I'm about 6', with the torso of a 7 footer and the legs of a 5 footer. My wife is about 5'4". So, I really like it when my memory positioner works!
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I agree; just getting a feel for what’s exactly happening. So if you adjust the seat with any of the switches; the vehicle won’t perform the seat memory function?
 
qwikhit, thanks for hanging in there with me!
Here's what I think is going on:
1. I sit down, close the door, and hit the Memory 2 button.
2. The seat goes full down, and full back. ( I assume this to be as designed, and that it is going to a known "zero" point, so that it has a reference to work from. Purely speculation on my part, though)
3. Because my desired seat position is in fact forward of the full aft position, the seat must now attempt to move forward. But, because of the malfunction, it cannot do so. If, at this point, I take over manually, I can bump the switch aft, and then successfully (manually) move forward. But, if I try to bump the switch back, and then hit the Memory 2 switch, it still doesn't work.

Does this explanation make better sense?
 
I’m with you. #2 theory makes sense. You would think that once it hits a known position it would just put the seat to the position in memory. Hope it gets resolved

EDIT: I wonder if in # 2; the memory malfunction is causing the seat to move full back and down? Does it do that for both saved memory positions?
 
Because my desired seat position is in fact forward of the full aft position
Have you tried saving the memory setting again at your desired seating position?

Remember that you need to be in Park to save new memory seat settings.

When I hit the memory setting for the seat I don’t think it goes back beyond my setting then forward again. It goes directly to the XY coordinates.
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That’s what I was thinking; the full down and aft position is a product of the malfunction
 
They recently replaced the seat control switch which also did not fix this issue.
The statement (quoted above) in my first post for this thread is incorrect; Kia replaced the seat control switch and that fixed the issue of needing to bump the switch to the recline position before it would move the seat back forward.

I was confused because the car was at the Kia dealer for two problems, the seat issue and front park distance sensor malfunction. My wife told me they did not fix either as that's what the service tech told her; however, I tested the seat and it functions properly, both memory positions work properly (memorize and return position) and the seat control switches all work correctly without needing to first bump them in the opposite direction.

I did a little research and found there are only 2 components that provide input to the "Memory power seat unit" (located under the seat) which controls all seat positioning.

The "Integrated memory seat switch" on the door and the "Power Seat Control Switch" on the side of the seat.

Kia needs to replace your "Memory power seat unit" and possibly your "Power Seat Control Switch" again because its possible a defective "Memory power seat unit" is causing a failure in the "Power Seat Control Switch". This would explain why replacing the "Power Seat Control Switch" previously did not remedy the problem.

The schematic for the memory switches on the door is below and as you can see it only provides different resistance values to the "Memory power seat unit" which controls the motors that change the seat position.

If your seat moves when you press a memory button it is highly likely the memory buttons are working properly, if the seat travels to the wrong position the "Memory power seat unit" is defective. If the seat side switches don't work properly then either or both the "Memory power seat unit" and "Power Seat Control Switch" are defective.

For my wife's Telly Kia replaced the "Memory power seat unit" first which restored memory function, later they replaced "Power Seat Control Switch" which fixed the need to bump in opposite direction issue.

On another note, Kia replaced the front bumper sensors which did not fix the issue (warning stating sensor is blocked or ???). They are still waiting for engineering to tell them what to do next.
I should probably research that next.

Integrated Memory Seat Switch Schematic Diagram
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Driver Power Seat Control Switch (With IMS)
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I searched for similar issues, but didn't find anyone with precisely this issue:

My driver seat will not adjust forward until you first move the switch backward. It will then move forward using the switch.

This renders the memory function inoperative, because if the memorized position is forward of the current position, the seat won't move.

Dealer has replaced switch twice and contacted Kia engineering once.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
I sometimes have a similar thing. The seat does not move when the engine is turned off or when the engine is started. Also buttons 1 and 2 do not respond. have to, slightly move the seat with a button and the memory starts to work. But the positions in memory are saved and get up as needed.
 
Update: Still working the problem. Engineering in CA and in Korea now saying limit switches in the seat mount rails. I don't see how this could be involved, but we shall see....
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I also have the same problem. Is there an open repair campaign??
 
No repair campaigns that I know of.
The dealer replaced the forward limit switch, and the problem seems to be fixed. Makes no sense to me, but maybe there is a difference between what I think a limit switch does, and what their limit switch actually does! 😀
 
No repair campaigns that I know of.
The dealer replaced the forward limit switch, and the problem seems to be fixed. Makes no sense to me, but maybe there is a difference between what I think a limit switch does, and what their limit switch actually does! 😀
Okay, thanks again for sharing your experience. Have a nice day!
 




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