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Customer Reports Calls the Kia Telluride the Worst New Car Deal

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Maybe this new CR article will cause some dealership's to back off excessive mark up pricing for a while if sales cool off.

 
My friends just bought a new Traverse Premier for like $5k under sticker and that dealer maybe has one Traverse on the lot at any given time. F150s are still $8k off locally when they get one in and it hits the lot.

When I bought my EX-P for sticker @ $44k, I could've bought a Black Edition Elite Pilot for $800 more.

So... Yeah... They're not wrong.
 
Gotta watch Motorbiscuit. That's not a CR article. It tails off into a plug for the Buick Encore. Lol

You may have a difficult time finding a Telluride at or below sticker price but how many other mass produced vehicles can you sell back a year later for what you paid for it right now? If this was a Ford or Toyota with 2-300k produced a year this would be a non-issue
 
Yeah, they linked no source in that article. Gotta love garbage.
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Gotta watch Motorbiscuit. That's not a CR article. It tails off into a plug for the Buick Encore. Lol

You may have a difficult time finding a Telluride at or below sticker price but how many other mass produced vehicles can you sell back a year later for what you paid for it right now? If this was a Ford or Toyota with 2-300k produced a year this would be a non-issue
Hey! Motorbiscut is a relia...🤣🤣🤣

I booked my friend's Traverse for fun as a used 2020 vs my telly and it booked at the same percentage loss as my Telly after one year. The market is obviously different than book value but I looked at trading my 2021 and my local dealer wasn't going to give me anywhere near what I could probably get at Carvana or another dealer. They simply refuse to sell a used car for more than it stickered at because people probably won't pay it around here anyway. They charge just under msrp on their Tellurides as it is.

Obviously this used market is going to drop eventually, even for the Telluride. The new Pilot is coming, the Nissan/Infiniti SUVs are new and seem to be improved. People are having to wait for everything right now. Once the companies who have production capacity ramp up and have inventory available, I suspect many people will opt for new at a better price and not be willing to pay a premium for a used Telly. The benefit to these used Tellys is just that they're available to drive off the lot immediately. I can't even go to my local dealer and drive a Traverse or Explorer off the lot right now, they don't have one.

The used market could stay hot another year or two though...
 
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@Kao, Oh Motorbiscuit. Always serving up detritus written by an AI bot. Not even worth clicking... only helps them survive by getting ad revenue. Unfortunately that site is just click bait.
 
ConsumerReports reporting facts, MotorBiscuit reporting opinions. The CR ratings are in part contributing to the high demand along with market conditions. MotorBiscuit isn't going to get click bait with a headline that the worst rated SUV has some great discounts. The bottom of the MotorBiscuit commentary states that the Buick Encore has great discounts but even with the discounts low owner satisfaction, but that headline isn't a shocker. A more accurate title would have been "ConsumerReports confirms in a free market higher rated vehicles with higher owner satisfaction are easier to sell."
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Fair market adjustment? It's like they're giving it away!

"Fair" 🤣

When words, language, and meaning are twisted, diluted, manipulated to mean the opposite of commonly accepted definitions and understanding for centuries...

Good luck y'all
 
And if you go to ConsumerReports, they rate the Kia Telluride as number 1.
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I must agree! Its not fair to us as buyer/consumers to get screwed in price as such! After lurking on this board for a few weeks i ran into some good info on a better dealership that didnt charge over msrp. So went to the dealership (berwyn kia) i had an order from which was charging me 5000$ over msrp and cancelled my order and went to the better dealership! (Classic kia) the best thing that could have happened me finding this board!
 
I disagree with MotorBiscuit's use of the word "value" in terms of money because it has different meaning to different people. As long as someone shopping for a $40K minivan sees value in a lower priced trim Telluride as a comparable alternative, or someone shopping for a luxury Volvo XC90 T6 sees value in similar features for $10K less in a higher trim Telluride, there will continue to be markups. Even a traditional Tahoe buyer no longer able to fit the longer sized large SUV in their garage might find value in a lower priced marked up Telluride. Trying to rank every vehicle based on what deals are available doesn't account for a vehicle (like the Telluride) that competes in different segments or some other vehicles that are overpriced to begin with or in low demand because of higher inventory. It also assumes that value is interpreted the same by every buyer. Kia set a relatively low MSRP and let the dealers find buyers and the market decide the acceptable markups. For those unwilling to pay the outrageous markups, it just requires a little more work and patience because you see value differently than those willing to pay the markup and still see value. The excessive markups will only end when there is more inventory.
 
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Gotta watch Motorbiscuit. That's not a CR article. It tails off into a plug for the Buick Encore. Lol

You may have a difficult time finding a Telluride at or below sticker price but how many other mass produced vehicles can you sell back a year later for what you paid for it right now? If this was a Ford or Toyota with 2-300k produced a year this would be a non-issue
To be fair, I could sell my 2018 Toyota Rav4 with 35k miles on it for very close to MSRP right now. The used market is ludicrous.
 
Gotta watch Motorbiscuit. That's not a CR article. It tails off into a plug for the Buick Encore. Lol

You may have a difficult time finding a Telluride at or below sticker price but how many other mass produced vehicles can you sell back a year later for what you paid for it right now? If this was a Ford or Toyota with 2-300k produced a year this would be a non-issue
Yep. It’s all relative. We are getting our Telly for under $50k. We were looking at comparably equipped Lincoln Aviator for $18k more! BTW, we are replacing a Buick Enclave at we can’t stand. Not going back to GM anytime soon.
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I disagree with MotorBiscuit's use of the word "value" in terms of money because it has different meaning to different people. As long as someone shopping for a $40K minivan sees value in a lower priced trim Telluride as a comparable alternative, or someone shopping for a luxury Volvo XC90 T6 sees value in similar features for $10K less in a higher trim Telluride, there will continue to be markups. Even a traditional Tahoe buyer no longer able to fit the longer sized large SUV in their garage might find value in a lower priced marked up Telluride. Trying to rank every vehicle based on what deals are available doesn't account for a vehicle (like the Telluride) that competes in different segments or some other vehicles that are overpriced to begin with or in low demand because of higher inventory. It also assumes that value is interpreted the same by every buyer. Kia set a relatively low MSRP and let the dealers find buyers and the market decide the acceptable markups. For those unwilling to pay the outrageous markups, it just requires a little more work and patience because you see value differently than those willing to pay the markup and still see value. The excessive markups will only end when there is more inventory.
Well said!
 
replacing a Buick Enclave at we can’t stand


Wow!! I thought they were nice to look at but never drove one or anything.. why u guys cant stand it so much i was just curious...
 




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