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syadasti

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A bit disappointing that it's not beating the last generation V6 leaders Toyota and Honda:


Kia's new large crossover is rated 20/26/23 mpg city/highway/combined, when paired with front-wheel drive.

That rating is in line with key competitors. The 2019 Honda Pilot tops out at 20/27/23 mpg, while the Highlander gets 21/27/23 mpg when paired with a V-6.
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When equipped with all-wheel drive, the Telluride dips to 19/24/21 mpg. That's slightly lower than the Pilot (19/26/22) and Highlander (20/27/23). But the rating is higher than the Traverse (17/25/20) and Atlas (17/23/19).

I guess this tilts it some back towards the Ascent and Explorer Hybrid for me.





 
Close enough for me..most of my driving is in the city and get AWD.. 1 MPG is not a big enough difference to sway 1 way or the other. If gas mileage was a big determining factor, the Telluride wouldn't even be a thought as I would be looking at hybrids.
 
Close enough for me..most of my driving is in the city and get AWD.. 1 MPG is not a big enough difference to sway 1 way or the other. If gas mileage was a big determining factor, the Telluride wouldn't even be a thought as I would be looking at hybrids.

There aren't many high mileage or hybrid 3-row vehicles in this price range so you can't really look at hybrids without a significant cost penalty (perhaps Toyota will be affordable with the Highlander in the next generation like they did with the RAV4 hybrid being less than the cost of AWD as an option).

Most are mild hybrids in 3 rows period - nobody is cross shopping the Tesla X with the Telluride. The 2020 Explorer Hybrid has a very small capacity 1.5 kw battery - that's smaller than the RAV4 hybrid's 1.6 kw. If you go to the luxury segment then you're getting to plug-in and more reasonable battery capacity - Aviator's battery for example is over ten times larger than the Explorer's.
 
They should be able to do better especially since the leading V6 non atkinson cycle competitor's models that have been on the markets for years match or slightly beat them with similar HP and torque. Also note the Pilot is similar weight and the Highlander is significantly heavier than the Telluride. It's disappointing for a brand new model especially with resorting to atkinson cycle to merely match the old generation competition.
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Wait isn't the Telluride more of an X5 competitor than a Highlander competitor? I thought Kia was trying to compete with the high end competitors. If that's true, then I'd think the Telluride would be heavier because of more options and computers and stuff. Or have I interpreted this wrong?
 
they're comparing the highlander, the pilot, the traverse and the atlas. so it seems the telluride is about middle ground when it comes to mpg. what's feature parity like? it's a 1 mile per gallon difference but does the telluride offer something that could make that up in features? or warranty maybe?
 
Wait isn't the Telluride more of an X5 competitor than a Highlander competitor? I thought Kia was trying to compete with the high end competitors. If that's true, then I'd think the Telluride would be heavier because of more options and computers and stuff. Or have I interpreted this wrong?

Kia is not a luxury brand and isn't competing with 2 row crossovers.
 
Kia is not a luxury brand and isn't competing with 2 row crossovers.
While Kia isn't a luxury brand, the K900 is a luxury car and so is the Stinger. The Genesis Sedan, especially 2015 and 2016, wasn't sold by a luxury brand, but it was a luxury car. If the Telluride doesn't offer more than the Toyota Highlander and Subaru Ascent, I'd be very surprised. I need to look more into the latest as I haven't been paying close attention. I'd be really disappointed though if the Telluride wasn't any better than the Highlander.
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Not terrible but not great in the AWD trim. A couple MPG is not a deal breaker but it kind of validates Subaru's 4cy turbo track. My Ascent is getting around 21.5/26 in the real world so really its not all that much different given the extra 30 HP in the Tride.
 
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Not terrible but not great in the AWD trim. A couple MPG is not a deal breaker but it kind of validates Subaru's 4cy turbo track. My Ascent is getting around 21/26 in the real world so really its not all that much different given the extra 30 HP in the Tride

Plus it has superior torque at low RPM and doesn't have losses at altitude like the Telluride. I still might consider the Telluride, but the drivetrain is not the highlight for a brand new 2020 vehicle - that's the truth.
 
Plus it has superior torque at low RPM and doesn't have losses at altitude like the Telluride. I still might consider the Telluride, but the drivetrain is not the highlight for a brand new 2020 vehicle - that's the truth.
The Ascent does have much better low end torque and would not suffer from altitude loss. However, if you check out their forums, most owners in the real world are not seeing as good of MPG as it is rated for. I believe that the turbos are spooling so much that they are not getting the efficiency of the 4 cyl. In my Flex, I have the twin turbo, 3.5L V6 EB motor, in my previous I had the 3.5L NA motor. If I am light on the throttle, I can get as good of mileage out of my twin turbo as I did my NA, but I can hammer on it and have plenty of power, which I couldn't in my old one. I think were Subaru may have somewhat failed is that their base motor cannot properly power the weight of the Ascent without boost for much other then slow acceleration on flat or for downhill. I would really like to see the Telluride with a Turbo/Twin Turbo version of this motor. It clearly has enough power to move the vehicle that the turbos may not be required as often as they are on the Subaru. I actually think a small V8 would be a good application in vehicles this size - it would provide lower end torque and would hardly have to work to move the Telluride along. I am not a fan of the smaller motors being turbo'd to get the necessary power. More components to fail.

The old saying: "There is no replacement for displacement"
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