14.10 update (November 2020) now available

[tazzytazzy]

A few additional observations on the update:

I noticed the song/show title doesn’t display on the new Home Screen when listening to SiriusXM. Seems like a big miss to have all that unused space and not show it. My wife’s Subaru shows album art from Sirius too. That would be better than the vacuum tubes on the radio screen.

While the integrated map is cool on the Home Screen, it’s puzzling why they would align it to the right side of the screen and make the driver look that much further away from the road to see the map. Seems like a poor UX decision and one that was made in a conference room instead of in a usability lab.

Another annoyance in the new radio ( besides all the wasted space for the new channel number display) is the preset menus. You have to reach all the way over to the right to change the bank of presets to the next set. I believe the old way was a vertical swipe to scroll, which is much easier. Sure, you can use the steering wheel controls, but why make the touchscreen design more cumbersome to interact with more clicks and smaller text? Just seems like poor design and more opportunity for distraction.

Overall, I don’t hate it, but I’m pretty puzzled as to why a $52k car would have such a big screen and then make such a major update to downgrade functionality and leave so much screen wasted. This feels like design made for the conmonality of all models in the lineup when Telluride should be getting its own customizations and not have to have the same limitations as a basic Soul, for example.

This should not be a budget design decision as it will erode the brand equity the Telluride had already built up, not to mention tick off owners. Let’s hope stuff like this sinks into someone’s head at Kia for future updates.

Our new K5 has the same size screen as the Telluride, 10" or so. The k5 has the updated Nov update, while the Telly doesn't.

They should optimize display size, or have different UI builds for each display size, while the logic underneath should be the same. It appears they made the UI small for the smaller screens, but for the larger screens, they just added padding and wasting space. The defeats the benefit of the larger display in every aspevt except when displaying the map.

All modern software design patterns should separate the UI from the logic so that a different UI can be provided easily.

Going to hold off on upgrading the Telluride.

 

[lazyengineer]

I've never updated mine, so it's still the old original version. Personally, I think WinAmp really whips the Llama's ass - and kind of dig the photos of the new interface. Though, the purple maybe is a little overstated. I've never activated UVO, as I refuse to pay for that on a $50,000 capital expense car; and just use Android Auto. But this way I get updated static maps, just in case - if I update.

For me, I'm currently having reliability issues with Android Auto and my car. It frequently drops connection, regardless of what wire I'm using (I've gone through 5 or 6 now, factory, 3rd party, you name it). It works OK doing any one task. But if I'm doing Maps and on a call at the same time, it'll run for a few minutes and then loose wire connection. So I'm hoping the update maybe will help with that?

We'll see, I'll probably install the update tomorrow while I'm driving. Apparently I need to do the "quick" update, because the other options are research land-mine tests that apparently don't work and offer no beneficial reason to being there?

 

[Tellthemride]

Apparently I need to do the "quick" update, because the other options are research land-mine tests that apparently don't work and offer no beneficial reason to being there?

Yes, the best way is always the quick way. Maybe full update deletes/formats and reloads entire map library instead of just updating the regions that changed from the last update. Which would account for the significant amount of time needed to complete. It’s supposed to be a failsafe option if you cannot get the quick update to work.

 

[Heiber]

Did the update despite the bad reviews. Things I wanted (my version was from 6/19 so almost a year and half old): updated maps, automatic offline search if you don't have UVO (although still takes several minutes), Carplay split screen.

But find the home screen useless. Now I just go to split radio or maps or carplay depending on what I am using. I find the map on the homescreen useless - it does not have any features, street names etc. so is more like a vector diagram than a map. Any way to get useful information on the map? We still have everything with the map widget which is much more useful.

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[lazyengineer]

How are you liking it so far after a couple days Heiber? I haven't actually driven mine long enough to do the update. (Sigh: COVID Pandemic - we're all under directive to just stay home and not go to work right now).

 

[qwikhit]

 

[Heiber]

How are you liking it so far after a couple days Heiber? I haven't actually driven mine long enough to do the update. (Sigh: COVID Pandemic - we're all under directive to just stay home and not go to work right now).

The main screen and radio UI are awful but I knew that from all of the earlier "rants". I just ignore the main screen now. I miss the 3 widget view as that was my preferred screen before. I also miss the weather widget - although you can get there by pressing the weather info on the main screen (kind of a strange decision).

But the number one benefit was getting split screen Carplay. Like others I am not driving much so I let my UVO subscription expire. Therefore I want to use Carplay for my main NAV but also have easy access to the radio / SXM options on the right panel. So it meets my needs to upgrade.

 

[lazyengineer]

Updated today. Overall I like it and am good with it. But to repeat what others say:
-Main Screen might as well just be a clock, it's useless
-GPS detailed info is kind of cool, you can see all the satellites now, and it gives you elevation too. Didn't recall it doing that before.
-AndroidAuto seems to launch faster and run better now
-The split screen is nice for Android. But the widgets to go into the split screen aren't very good. I thought we had weather at one time, but is it gone now? That's what I was going to put in my split screen.

I didn't have a 64 GB thumbdrive, but I did have a memory card. So used a USB hub that reads those, and it recognized and ran that like a USB drive for the update, which worked. Which has me curious - can you plug a hub into the data port and run more than one thing off of that? Only having one USB data input is annoying, as it would be great if we had a MicroSD card slot too, so as to have a music drive. As it stands, I have to use the data point for my Android Auto wire connection. Can I solve that with a HUB?

The philosophy of Up and Down with increasing/decreasing numbers is backwards, and is still backwards. Wish we had option to reverse that.

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[bruesjoh04]

GPS detailed info is kind of cool, you can see all the satellites now, and it gives you elevation too. Didn't recall it doing that before.

None of the GPS stuff is new. You also can get coordinates/elevation by pulling up the compass in split screen.

The split screen is nice for Android. But the widgets to go into the split screen aren't very good. I thought we had weather at one time, but is it gone now? That's what I was going to put in my split screen.

You can customize the things that are available in split screen. Weather is definitely one of them. Setup > display > split screen.

Which has me curious - can you plug a hub into the data port and run more than one thing off of that?

Hubs do not work and have been tried before by others on the forum. The closest anyone has gotten is using a USB switch that allows you to keep several things physically connected (but won’t be in use concurrently). But obviously that won’t help for most of the reasons anyone would want to utilize a hub.

The philosophy of Up and Down with increasing/decreasing numbers is backwards, and is still backwards. Wish we had option to reverse that.

The best way I’ve seen this justified is on screen if you have a list of tracks or stations, the list often goes top to bottom. Next = down for that reason. Out of that context, it does sometimes seem odd, but just get used to it because that’s how it is.

 

[lazyengineer]

Thanks for the reply on that! I'll be sure to take som eof those tips next time I get in my car.

I will say, I still very much love my Telluride. And I love the room. I folded the rear seat down when I bought it, and never touched it again, which makes for a ton of cargo space.

 

[PittPa]

Updated today. Overall I like it and am good with it. But to repeat what others say:
-Main Screen might as well just be a clock, it's useless
-GPS detailed info is kind of cool, you can see all the satellites now, and it gives you elevation too. Didn't recall it doing that before.
-AndroidAuto seems to launch faster and run better now
-The split screen is nice for Android. But the widgets to go into the split screen aren't very good. I thought we had weather at one time, but is it gone now? That's what I was going to put in my split screen.

I didn't have a 64 GB thumbdrive, but I did have a memory card. So used a USB hub that reads those, and it recognized and ran that like a USB drive for the update, which worked. Which has me curious - can you plug a hub into the data port and run more than one thing off of that? Only having one USB data input is annoying, as it would be great if we had a MicroSD card slot too, so as to have a music drive. As it stands, I have to use the data point for my Android Auto wire connection. Can I solve that with a HUB?

The philosophy of Up and Down with increasing/decreasing numbers is backwards, and is still backwards. Wish we had option to reverse that.

Thats about how I feel. Hoping they come back to some of the items that were taken away but like the improvements.

 

[BasilFawlty]

Thats about how I feel. Hoping they come back to some of the items that were taken away but like the improvements.

I especially want the selectable three apps on the Home screen back! The Home screen as it is now is useless as tits on a bull.

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[lazyengineer]

FWIW, when I did the update it took 35-45 minutes doing it via the Quick method. I did it while driving. It's 5 steps, with the first step being the maps, and so was the slowest. And the other ones went faster. Of course the system can't be used while updating, so be aware of that before you start. It failed a few minutes in on Step One, when something (lightly) bumped my USB Card reader. The original UVO worked on rebooting the Nav system, but had lost all my settings. When I retried the install, it worked fine on the 2nd attempt.

All your map locations are part of the Guest Profile, which I exported to the USB device already plugged in, and then imported back in to User 1 Profile.

 

[BabyRide]

Thank you. I thought I was missing a step or something else. Makes it a chore to find the channels you want. I guess I'll just preset 10 and search for any others I might want when the mood hits me. Not a very well thought out system.

Nope. The older versions of software were way better than the new.

 

[TheNip73]

Anyone know how to display the artist / song info when using You are listening to an FM Station that is coming across in HD radio? I can’t recall if the old version did this, but my last car from 2011 did, so it would be a pretty big miss for KIA to not have this capability.

 

[Tellthemride]

Anyone know how to display the artist / song info when using You are listening to an FM Station that is coming across in HD radio? I can’t recall if the old version did this, but my last car from 2011 did, so it would be a pretty big miss for KIA to not have this capability.

If you did not perform the 14.10 update, it would basically be the menu button and the toggle “Info” to on. You also need to toggle the HD radio button (#3) to on.

The artist and song title info is not visible from the radio widget (for FM radio) on the home screen. I usually go to the Radio screen to see this info.

I would think update 14.10 still retains this function, but not sure since I didnt update myself.

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[mario.b1985]

Is there an upcoming update scheduled? I read somewhere they update every 3 or 6 months?

 

[TheNip73]

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If you did not perform the 14.10 update, it would basically be the menu button and the toggle “Info” to on. You also need to toggle the HD radio button (#3) to on.

The artist and song title info is not visible from the radio widget (for FM radio) on the home screen. I usually go to the Radio screen to see this info.

I would think update 14.10 still retains this function, but not sure since I didnt update myself.

I made the update...

The old version is better. I pretty much exclusively use Apple car play, so I can live with the downgrades in functionality. Forgot to plug in my iPhone before a 1.5 mile short trip so I put on FM and that is when I noticed the lack of artist info.

 

[Humaid]

Finally received the update today, and that for my region. I was looking forward for the split screen to refill the space of the Android Auto logo/mobile name with something useful.

I selected the quick update, which took around 23 minutes to complete the full setup.

It messed up with my radio presets. I tried to scan manually and sort the FM list the way I want. However, it was a bit difficult, so I had to scan for all, and set my favorites. I couldn't see any option to arrange them, so left them as they are sorted per frequency.

I wish there were other themes to select.

I noticed something weird which If I set a destination to navigate in the system's maps, then I try to navigate to a destination through Google Maps in Android Auto screen, the split of system's maps will disappear I will try again. But, by using Waze app in Android Auto to see if the same thing happens.

 

[lazyengineer]

The weather widget on split screen isnt working right. It give me temperature, but nor forecast data