2020 Issues

[bruesjoh04]

How does one change the thread title?
Anyway, I can’t disagree with the one above,
However, keep in mind that there was no documentation on the 2021 that I’ve was able to find before purchase. We did extensive investigation on what we wanted, and comparison to the Palisade, which is the only other vehicle comparable. Other than the “miscommunication” about the Liftgate, we got exactly what we ordered.
Another aspect that maybe should be included in this thread is differences between 2020/2021?? At this point I suspect none. They simply restarted the plant and changed the MY. Yeah?

2021 model year changes are covered very heavily in other threads.

Cliff’s notes version:
-all trims get remote start via key fob
-slightly modified captain’s chairs armrest
-AWD models benefit from improved rear heating
-towing setup gets 7-pin v 4-pin connector

-EX with premium package gets LED headlights
-EX premium with AWD, and any SX with AWD can add Nightfall (blackout) package

-some minor color availability changes (transitioning whites, new Wolf Gray available on Nightfall only, Black Copper now available on non-SX trims)

I may have missed something, but that should be it. Second year of a new model; would have been unlikely to see any significant changes.

 

[MarcinTexas]

How does one change the thread title?
Anyway, I can’t disagree with the one above,
However, keep in mind that there was no documentation on the 2021 that I’ve was able to find before purchase. We did extensive investigation on what we wanted, and comparison to the Palisade, which is the only other vehicle comparable. Other than the “miscommunication” about the Liftgate, we got exactly what we ordered.
Another aspect that maybe should be included in this thread is differences between 2020/2021?? At this point I suspect none. They simply restarted the plant and changed the MY. Yeah?

There is a massive treasure trove of documentation on the changes from 2020 to 2021 available on the internet and this site. Some users have posted dealer training slides as well here. If you look for it - you can find it. The post above gives a good summary.

 

[NightRider]

How does one change the thread title?
Anyway, I can’t disagree with the one above,
However, keep in mind that there was no documentation on the 2021 that I’ve was able to find before purchase. We did extensive investigation on what we wanted, and comparison to the Palisade, which is the only other vehicle comparable. Other than the “miscommunication” about the Liftgate, we got exactly what we ordered.
Another aspect that maybe should be included in this thread is differences between 2020/2021?? At this point I suspect none. They simply restarted the plant and changed the MY. Yeah?

The main difference in the 20 and 21s is the remote start is now on the key fob and accessible versus 100% having to use the UVO app on a mobile device or other to remote start.

 

[yonkayonka]

The main difference in the 20 and 21s is the remote start is now on the key fob and accessible versus 100% having to use the UVO app on a mobile device or other to remote start.

First I’d like to say ”Thanks!” To everyone for putting up with a new member. I’m a very accomplished mechanic, although I will not be working on my Wife’s Telluride. It’s her car and I tried to take more of a hands off role in the purchase, hence a couple of surprises.
Last Q for now and I’ll shut up. It’s my understanding that we can’t have two UVO enabled phones. At least with different accounts. Seems rather arbitrary.
Can two phones use the same account?

If anyone in the RDU area of NC needs any automotive help, please don’t hesitate to ping me. I’m also an Extra Class amateur radio operator: W4FEY, so if there are other hams out there that want to install a mobile unit, I’ve done many.

Cheers, and on with the show!
Frank

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[jw_tx21]

Can two phones use the same account?

Yes.

 

[NightRider]

First I’d like to say ”Thanks!” To everyone for putting up with a new member. I’m a very accomplished mechanic, although I will not be working on my Wife’s Telluride. It’s her car and I tried to take more of a hands off role in the purchase, hence a couple of surprises.
Last Q for now and I’ll shut up. It’s my understanding that we can’t have two UVO enabled phones. At least with different accounts. Seems rather arbitrary.
Can two phones use the same account?

If anyone in the RDU area of NC needs any automotive help, please don’t hesitate to ping me. I’m also an Extra Class amateur radio operator: W4FEY, so if there are other hams out there that want to install a mobile unit, I’ve done many.

Cheers, and on with the show!
Frank

I found this funny because my husband has done the same with the research and ordering of my Telly. Although, he does get his 2 cents out there every now and then.

 

[TellTastic]

2021 model year changes are covered very heavily in other threads.

Cliff’s notes version:
-all trims get remote start via key fob
-slightly modified captain’s chairs armrest
-AWD models benefit from improved rear heating
-towing setup gets 7-pin v 4-pin connector

-EX with premium package gets LED headlights
-EX premium with AWD, and any SX with AWD can add Nightfall (blackout) package

-some minor color availability changes (transitioning whites, new Wolf Gray available on Nightfall only, Black Copper now available on non-SX trims)

I may have missed something, but that should be it. Second year of a new model; would have been unlikely to see any significant changes.

Totally outside of the realm of this thread, which is mute anyway, but I can’t get over the fact that you own both a Palisade AND a Telly, both top trims.

 

[bruesjoh04]

Totally outside of the realm of this thread, which is mute anyway, but I can’t get over the fact that you own both a Palisade AND a Telly, both top trims.

If you’re going to do it, do it properly!

My fiancé was also in the market for a new vehicle last year, so I convinced her we should get one of each.

I thought it would be interesting to see first hand the differences between the two vehicles, which are essentially the same, but also not (and built on opposite sides of the world). It’s not something you often get the opportunity to do!

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[TellTastic]

@bruesjoh04 , I’m certain that you’ve already highlighted this across both forums, and I scanned your posts, but How’s your overall impression of both Vehicles?

 

[bruesjoh04]

@bruesjoh04 , I’m certain that you’ve already highlighted this across both forums, and I scanned your posts, but How’s your overall impression of both Vehicles?

They’re both great overall – there’s no question why they are each so highly acclaimed.

I personally prefer the Telluride’s exterior styling, but I don’t think the Palisade is ugly – it actually looks rather upscale, especially in the 2020 Limited/2021 Calligraphy trims. Inside, the Palisade is super luxurious-feeling, but so is the Telluride, it just does it a little differently.

Each one has a few features that it would be nice to have in the other... but they’re mostly minor things.

I wish the Telluride had the digital instrument cluster and remote start on the key fob (it did get that second one for 2021). I could take or leave the power third row, I actually prefer manual since it’s so much faster. Only benefit I see to power is you can raise or lower them from the driver seat if needed. But no big deal.

I wish the Palisade had power folding mirrors and a place to put your sunglasses (it has a conversation mirror instead). It also doesn’t have fog lights, but its headlights are mounted relatively low so it’s no big deal. I do wish the Palisade had some cupholders on the back of the center console like the Telluride does. I know they’re intended for rear passengers, but I love using them for myself on road trips. I also wish the Palisade had dedicated interior lights for the third row... for some reason, they don’t – the rearmost light only comes on when the hatch is open. The Telluride is bright and easy to see around the third row at night, in the Palisade, it’s impossible to see anything. Thankfully, our third row is hardly ever used, but it could be important for some people.

For both of them, it would be nice to have at least one more USB interface with the center screen. It would be nice to have that option if needed. Preferably if it could be in the center console, away from sight and not taking up space or blocking wireless phone chargers. More power would always be appreciated, but these are intended to be relatively sedate vehicles.

Overall, they’re both very impressive, at the top of the class in roominess despite not being all that big, more luxurious than the price would suggest, and are backed by a solid warranty. And there are plenty of tech goodies and creature comforts you never see for less than $50k. Not much to complain about.

 

[TellTastic]

@bruesjoh04 , That was very well said. I don’t know if it’s a copy and paste from answering that question before, but it certainly identified some of the points of consideration we had.

The cup holders behind the center console and power mirrors were big ones for us. That’s the first time I’ve heard someone ask for more USB ports! They’re stuffed to the gills with them.

The power train is what it is, I guess. Coming from a 4cyl SUV, we feel like it’s got enough get up to support its primary mission- move family from point a to b.

The digital cluster in the palisade was / is really neat, something I expect kia may implement during a refresh based on consumer request / demand, but for us, we were looking at a lower trim anyway.
Regardless, your comment was very well said. Thanks again!

 

[mjeffv]

They’re both great overall – there’s no question why they are each so highly acclaimed.

I personally prefer the Telluride’s exterior styling, but I don’t think the Palisade is ugly – it actually looks rather upscale, especially in the 2020 Limited/2021 Calligraphy trims. Inside, the Palisade is super luxurious-feeling, but so is the Telluride, it just does it a little differently.

Each one has a few features that it would be nice to have in the other... but they’re mostly minor things.

I wish the Telluride had the digital instrument cluster and remote start on the key fob (it did get that second one for 2021). I could take or leave the power third row, I actually prefer manual since it’s so much faster. Only benefit I see to power is you can raise or lower them from the driver seat if needed. But no big deal.

I wish the Palisade had power folding mirrors and a place to put your sunglasses (it has a conversation mirror instead). It also doesn’t have fog lights, but its headlights are mounted relatively low so it’s no big deal. I do wish the Palisade had some cupholders on the back of the center console like the Telluride does. I know they’re intended for rear passengers, but I love using them for myself on road trips.

For both of them, it would be nice to have at least one more USB interface with the center screen. It would be nice to have that option if needed. Preferably if it could be in the center console, away from sight and not taking up space or blocking wireless phone chargers. More power would always be appreciated, but these are intended to be relatively sedate vehicles.

Overall, they’re both very impressive, at the top of the class in roominess despite not being all that big, more luxurious than the price would suggest, and are backed by a solid warranty. And there are plenty of tech goodies and creature comforts you never see for less than $50k. Not much to complain about.

How is the wind noise difference on the highway? Our test drive was only a few minutes but it appeared to us that the Palisade was noticeably louder above 60.

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[bruesjoh04]

How is the wind noise difference on the highway? Our test drive was only a few minutes but it appeared to us that the Palisade was noticeably louder above 60.

I think the Telluride is quieter overall, and Car and Driver agrees – it was the quietest vehicle they tested in 2019, period, regardless of price. There is some noticeable wind noise in the Palisade depending on speed and weather, but it is still very quiet. And I don’t know how much of the perceived wind noise can be attributed to the fact that there‘s not much else to hear. One of the big complaints about the Palisade in general seems to be its wind noise, but again, I’m not sure how much of that is just noticing something that would have been there anyway but less easy to hear if the car itself was louder. It’s not horrendous on our model, so I don’t care.

Both of these are way quieter than my last daily driver, a Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit, which was nearly $10,000 more expensive almost 7 years ago.

 

[MBreu]

They’re both great overall – there’s no question why they are each so highly acclaimed.

I personally prefer the Telluride’s exterior styling, but I don’t think the Palisade is ugly – it actually looks rather upscale, especially in the 2020 Limited/2021 Calligraphy trims. Inside, the Palisade is super luxurious-feeling, but so is the Telluride, it just does it a little differently.

Each one has a few features that it would be nice to have in the other... but they’re mostly minor things.

I wish the Telluride had the digital instrument cluster and remote start on the key fob (it did get that second one for 2021). I could take or leave the power third row, I actually prefer manual since it’s so much faster. Only benefit I see to power is you can raise or lower them from the driver seat if needed. But no big deal.

I wish the Palisade had power folding mirrors and a place to put your sunglasses (it has a conversation mirror instead). It also doesn’t have fog lights, but its headlights are mounted relatively low so it’s no big deal. I do wish the Palisade had some cupholders on the back of the center console like the Telluride does. I know they’re intended for rear passengers, but I love using them for myself on road trips.

For both of them, it would be nice to have at least one more USB interface with the center screen. It would be nice to have that option if needed. Preferably if it could be in the center console, away from sight and not taking up space or blocking wireless phone chargers. More power would always be appreciated, but these are intended to be relatively sedate vehicles.

Overall, they’re both very impressive, at the top of the class in roominess despite not being all that big, more luxurious than the price would suggest, and are backed by a solid warranty. And there are plenty of tech goodies and creature comforts you never see for less than $50k. Not much to complain about.

Any thoughts as to which is better for tall driver? I'm 6'7" and was only able to do brief test drive in Telluride, but my impression is seating position and sight lines for tall driver were slightly better in Telluride than Pallisade.

 

[bruesjoh04]

Any thoughts as to which is better for tall driver? I'm 6'7" and was only able to do brief test drive in Telluride, but my impression is seating position and sight lines for tall driver were slightly better in Telluride than Pallisade.

I’m only 5’11” so I can’t quite speak from experience, but I’ve heard people note that they feel a little more cramped in the driver’s seat of the Palisade. I don’t think it’s necessarily a difference in actual space, but likely due to the way the center console rises up towards the air vents which makes it seem taller and wider and makes you feel more boxed in than in the Telluride. Other than that, I can’t think of any significant differences from the driver’s seat.

 

[MarcinTexas]

If you’re going to do it, do it properly!

My fiancé was also in the market for a new vehicle last year, so I convinced her we should get one of each.

I thought it would be interesting to see first hand the differences between the two vehicles, which are essentially the same, but also not (and built on opposite sides of the world). It’s not something you often get the opportunity to do!

I love it that you have a Chevy SS - Most people on here probably don't know what it is - LOL. Proud owner of a 2015 SS with the manual transmission. A truly rare car that never got the proper recognition it deserved in the buying public. Ok...now back to Telluride talk!

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