2021 Telluride Detailing Thread

[gman1868]

Noticed this today. Dont know if its tar, asphalt or what. Anyone have suggestions from removing? I tried simply spraying with XPEL detail spray and wiping with mircorfiber, but that didnt do anything. Dont want to scrub it. Note it has ceramic coat.

Thanks!


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Have you tried something like CarPro Eraser? That's what my detailer suggested for my XPel ceramic coating. Otherwise I'd consult with the detailer that applied your coating.

 

[mkodikan]

Have you tried something like CarPro Eraser? That's what my detailer suggested for my XPel ceramic coating. Otherwise I'd consult with the detailer that applied your coating.

Haven't tried anything except the detail spray yet. I shoot the detailer an email. Thx

 

[Kevin78]

I just bought a 2022 Telluride S with the heart rims. Has anyone had any experience cleaning them yet? It has a two tone finish and I want to find a safe rim cleaner that won't harm the finishes. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Kevin

 

[gman1868]

I just bought a 2022 Telluride S with the heart rims. Has anyone had any experience cleaning them yet? It has a two tone finish and I want to find a safe rim cleaner that won't harm the finishes. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Kevin

CarPro IronX. Works great whether the wheels are ceramic coated or not. I'd highly recommend getting them coated, makes cleaning them MUCH easier!

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[Kevin78]

CarPro IronX. Works great whether the wheels are ceramic coated or not. I'd highly recommend getting them coated, makes cleaning them MUCH easier!

I coated them the day after I bought them. I just know some cleaners are harsh and can ruin finishes.

 

[gman1868]

I coated them the day after I bought them. I just know some cleaners are harsh and can ruin finishes.

That's what's cool about the ceramic coating, the products like CarPro IronX won't harm the finish. The shop in MN where I had my coating done recommended it: Midwest Clear Bra

 

[Bohen]

That's what's cool about the ceramic coating, the products like CarPro IronX won't harm the finish. The shop in MN where I had my coating done recommended it: Midwest Clear Bra

I'd recommend for cleaning your wheels once you decide what you're going to do put in a coating on or not getting a Wollywormit
Besides being able to get in the nooks and crannies really easy and not jamming a finger or getting a cramp it also has a foam applicator to is applicator to clean the lug nuts in that area
Sorry for the run on sentence trying to juggle barbecuing and this

 

[Wolfgray05]

My goto products for wash/detail are mostly from Carbon Collective. I haven't found a snow foam to go on as thick as Ultimus Snow foam (could be my foam cannon). I use Ultimus Snow Foam, Hybrid Coating, and React Fall Out Remover Carbon Collective

Bug Remover

For follow up washes after I have applied Carbon Collective Hybrid Coating I use Beadmaker: Beadmaker
It works fantastic as a drying agent since it's hydrophobic and helps bead off excess water as you dry. Beadmaker also acts as a lubricant between the microfiber and your paint so you don't mar it (as bad).

The best microfiber for drying. Just lay it flat and slowly drag it across the panels and it works like a charm. Dreadnought Microfiber

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[E91fan]

Going to be using this to maintain the ceramic. With a pressure washer, foam gun, and mini leaf blower type thingy to dry

 

[JP18181]

Was hoping somebody could recommend something to get this off. I thought it was just the usual snow/salt mixture from the road but it didn't come off while washing. I tried Meguiar's Ultimate Black Plastic Restorer and that didn't do anything either. I'm not sure what it is but it looks like it might be cement or something. There was a little bit on the chrome that came right off easily. Any ideas on what to try? I don't want to keep guessing and use something that will discolor the plastic.

 

[Wolfgray05]

Was hoping somebody could recommend something to get this off. I thought it was just the usual snow/salt mixture from the road but it didn't come off while washing. I tried Meguiar's Ultimate Black Plastic Restorer and that didn't do anything either. I'm not sure what it is but it looks like it might be cement or something. There was a little bit on the chrome that came right off easily. Any ideas on what to try? I don't want to keep guessing and use something that will discolor the plastic.
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It might be paint. Looks like you have some speckled on the paint above the trim also. The restorer probably sealed whatever that is on the trim.
This works well for easily removing paint on plastic trim. 266 Citrol Cleaner

 

[JP18181]

It might be paint. Looks like you have some speckled on the paint above the trim also. The restorer probably sealed whatever that is on the trim.
This works well for easily removing paint on plastic trim. 266 Citrol Cleaner

Thanks. I'll have to pick some up. Hopefully it gets rid of it.

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[shaveiceclub]

Now I need the weather to cooperate so I can use it. I replaced the license plate bulbs with LEDs today as well.

btw, your Telly looks amazing. Love it.

Did you take a before and after photo of the difference between the OEM and the LEDs?

 

[shaveiceclub]

I’m t

I have had several requests for the process I use for my 5.5-hour detailing. I am going to share it with pictures and narrative so this will be a bit long. Here at the beach, we have a crowded season and I am always getting comments on the Telly and the shine.

I had the paint corrected with ceramics and XPEL PPF Bikini installed when it was new. I also got the Wear Point (inside door handles, door threshold, etc) PPF done as well along with tinting of all the rear windows and light tinting on the driver's and passengers' sides. I also got a UV filter tint done for the windshield (can be brutal at the coast).

The first thing I do is get up early in the morning around 6 AM to avoid the hot sun on my black car. I lay all items out and fill the buckets. I get out my pressure washer (electric) and step ladder (for the roof).

The wheel bucket is separate from my body wash and rinse buckets to avoid any abrasive contamination. Remember the body finish spider webbing effect of small scratches is often done to small contaminants, many in the microscopic range. The human eye is only good down to 40 microns (the size of a fleck of ginger) but a lot of spider webbing scatches are caused by 10-20 micron abrasives. So finish preservation starts with minimalizing contamination in the cleaning process. I always start with the wheels--the dirty job first. Years ago I would have done those last but I learned from my son, a professional detailer, to get it done first. I used to follow the standard procedure "Top Down--Left to Right'.

After hooView attachment 21983king up the water to the presView attachment 21984sure washer, I pull the car out of the garage and spray it generously with ONR (Optimum No Rinse). This loosens up the dirt and starts the Water Beading, also known more scientifically as hydrophobicity, which is simply when water beads up on your car's surface and rolls off. Breaking that surface tension should start early in the process and a good pump spray of ONR helps. I let the ONR sit while I do the wheels. I might reapply ONR if it is starting to dry but otherwise let it do its thing why I do the wheels.

This is the garage and the Detailing Wall where I keep all my detailing materials and equipment. Everything you see on that wall and on the floor is for detailing except the refrigerator which is where I keep the drinks.

Below is the ONR and pump--takes 20-25 good pumps to get a good foam from this pumper.

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I will continue this in another post to keep it from being so large.

I’m thinking former green beret or navy seal. Something deadly or lethal, with extreme precision, attention to detail, and perfection with your absolute organization skills. Lol. Thanks for all of the info you shared regarding your setup and detailing process. I live in a luxury high rise with a car park. I won’t be able to put in a detailing setup like what you have here. Trying to figure out a better solution for my soon-to-be Telly.

 

[gman1868]

I’m t

I’m thinking former green beret or navy seal. Something deadly or lethal, with extreme precision, attention to detail, and perfection with your absolute organization skills. Lol. Thanks for all of the info you shared regarding your setup and detailing process. I live in a luxury high rise with a car park. I won’t be able to put in a detailing setup like what you have here. Trying to figure out a better solution for my soon-to-be Telly.

Let's address washing a car when you don't have a driveway or garage to do it in.

What you can do is go to a hand car wash with your own buckets of soapy water that has the pH neutral soap you want to use. Bring separate buckets and microfiber for the body paint and wheels. To make drying easier, purchase a cordless leaf blower to remove most of the water (especially from the cracks and crevices) before you use your microfiber drying towel.

A few things to keep in mind. Since you don't know how good the water is, it's really important to dry it well after you've washed it. In addition, I can't emphasize how important it is to segregate your wash mitt and towels. The metallic particles in your brakes will wreak havoc on your paint if you use the same on the body and wheels. The soap is important because commercial car wash soap is very harsh and will cause any coating you have to wear out more quickly.

If you have a ceramic coating, once you've washed and dried the car, you're all done! If you don't, you will want a spray on coating such as Griots Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax to protect the paint. In this kit you will see the products and towels that can be used to do that.

That being said, you'll want a clean surface before you apply the coating. Paint correction is an important step to ensure the crud and imperfections are removed prior to applying the coating. That's something that should be done before any ceramic coating is applied.

As you can see, it's quite the rabbit hole. However, if you have access to a reputable detailing shop to do the paint correction and apply a ceramic coating, the maintenance is fairly easy. It's MUCH easier than if you don't have a coating on the car.

 

[shaveiceclub]

Let's address washing a car when you don't have a driveway or garage to do it in.

What you can do is go to a hand car wash with your own buckets of soapy water that has the pH neutral soap you want to use. Bring separate buckets and microfiber for the body paint and wheels. To make drying easier, purchase a cordless leaf blower to remove most of the water (especially from the cracks and crevices) before you use your microfiber drying towel.

A few things to keep in mind. Since you don't know how good the water is, it's really important to dry it well after you've washed it. In addition, I can't emphasize how important it is to segregate your wash mitt and towels. The metallic particles in your brakes will wreak havoc on your paint if you use the same on the body and wheels. The soap is important because commercial car wash soap is very harsh and will cause any coating you have to wear out more quickly.

If you have a ceramic coating, once you've washed and dried the car, you're all done! If you don't, you will want a spray on coating such as Griots Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax to protect the paint. In this kit you will see the products and towels that can be used to do that.

That being said, you'll want a clean surface before you apply the coating. Paint correction is an important step to ensure the crud and imperfections are removed prior to applying the coating. That's something that should be done before any ceramic coating is applied.

As you can see, it's quite the rabbit hole. However, if you have access to a reputable detailing shop to do the paint correction and apply a ceramic coating, the maintenance is fairly easy. It's MUCH easier than if you don't have a coating on the car.

Thanks for that. Am I to understand that a ceramic coating doesn’t mean that I can go through an automatic car wash? The Telly still needs a hand wash? A little confused now as to what the main function of a ceramic coating is. I thought it was to protect the paint from scratches while simultaneously making it easier to clean the car. No?

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[gman1868]

Let's address washing a car when you don't have a driveway or garage to do it in.

Thanks for that. Am I to understand that a ceramic coating doesn’t mean that I can go through an automatic car wash? The Telly still needs a hand wash? A little confused now as to what the main function of a ceramic coating is. I thought it was to protect the paint from scratches while simultaneously making it easier to clean the car. No?

When you spend the effort or money to ceramic coat your vehicle, you should avoid automatic car washes because they wear out the coating prematurely. Of course, they strip off wax and paint sealant too.

That is why the spray-on products are good, because you can easily re-apply ceramic wax to the car if you must take it through an automated wash.

Despite what it looks like to our eyes, paint and clear coat are not flat. If you were to look at a magnified cross section, it would look like a rugged mountain range. The different between waxes and sealants versus ceramic is the ceramic is the only product that fills in the crevices to form a flat surface.

There are a number of benefits of a ceramic coating. It provides and extra layer of protection. It's 2-3 times harder than the clear coat so it helps protect from minor scuffs, scratches, and UV.

It increases durability, keeping the paint glossy a lot longe, thereby making your car look new for a longer period of time.

It repels water, dirt, and other contaminants. Because of the smooth sealed surface, bad stuff can't adhere to it as easily, including bugs.

No more hours upon hours of waxing the vehicle. Even if you choose the spray route, the spray applies much more easily than waxes and sealants.

If you don't mind hand washing, then you can go the proffessional coaring route. If not, then I'd recommend using the spray version instead.

 

[gman1868]

Back to the basics! If you want to detail your car or you want someone to detail it for you, Pan the Organizer* has a series of videos that goes through all the steps. Even if you're paying someone, they should go through these steps to properly protect your paint.

The steps he lays out are:
- Wash
- Chemical decontamination
- Clay Bar
- Paint Correction (machine polishing)
- Paint Protection with wax, sealant or ceramic coating the paint

In this video, Pan goes into detail (pun intended) on how to decontaminate your paint and glass with a clay bar.

*Full disclosure: I really like Pan for his How To videos. However, his product recommendations should be taken with a huge grain of salt because he does do paid product reviews.

By contrast, Scott HD does NOT accept any promotions or money for his reviews. He purchases all of the products he reviews on his channel. SO, if you're looking for product comparisons to make your own choices, Scott HD is the channel to watch.

 

[shaveiceclub]

When you spend the effort or money to ceramic coat your vehicle, you should avoid automatic car washes because they wear out the coating prematurely. Of course, they strip off wax and paint sealant too.

That is why the spray-on products are good, because you can easily re-apply ceramic wax to the car if you must take it through an automated wash.

Despite what it looks like to our eyes, paint and clear coat are not flat. If you were to look at a magnified corss section, it would look like a reggued mountain range. The different between waxes and sealants versus ceramic is the ceramic is the only product that fills in the crevices to form a flat surface.

There are a number of benefits of a ceramic coating. It provides and extra layer of protection. It's 2-3 times harder than the clear coat so it helps protect from minor scuffs, scratches, and UV.

It increases durability, keeping the paint glossy a lot longe, thereby making your car look new for a longer period of time.

It repels water, dirt, and other contaminants. Because of the smooth sealed surface, bad stuff can't adhere to it as easily, including bugs.

No more hours upon hours of waxing the vehicle. Even if you choose the spray route, the spray applies much more easily than waxes and sealants.

If you don't mind hand washing, then you can go the proffessional coaring route. If not, then I'd recommend using the spray version instead.

Immensely helpful. Thank you for breaking it down like that. I’m definitely sold on the ceramic coat.

I turned in my loaner vehicle for detailing yesterday. I wasn’t impressed with the detailing service. They were able to buff out scratch marks and water spots but it’s not perfect. I can see how a ceramic coat could help. They had to reapply and buff on the roof several times to remove bird poop. I also didn’t see Griots or Chemical Guys bottles anywhere. So I’m not a fan.

On another note, this car parks next to me in our garage. I inspected his recent detail job and could see swirls, etc. It’s amazing to see how dedicated Telluride owners are to their SUV compared to luxury car owners.

 

[shaveiceclub]

Back to the basics! If you want to detail your car or you want someone to detail it for you, Pan the Organizer* has a series of videos that goes through all the steps. Even if you're paying someone, they should go through these steps to properly protect your paint.

The steps he lays out are:
- Wash
- Chemical decontamination
- Clay Bar
- Paint Correction (machine polishing)
- Paint Protection with wax, sealant or ceramic coating the paint

In this video, Pan goes into detail (pun intended) on how to decontaminate your paint and glass with a clay bar.

*Full disclosure: I really like Pan for his How To videos. However, his product recommendations should be taken with a huge grain of salt because he does do paid product reviews.

By contrast, Scott HD does NOT accept any promotions or money for his reviews. He purchases all of the products he reviews on his channel. SO, if you're looking for product comparisons to make your own choices, Scott HD is the channel to watch.

Got it. Will look into these two.

Which pH neutral soap do you use for your car?

Not sure if you’ve thought of it already. You’re so insightful. Have you thought of starting your own thread to refer newbies like me to? I’m sure you’re shared your information repeatedly.