Auto Start/Stop: Can you disable it permanently?

[Bocatrip]

Please don't tell me that the A/C in the Telluride gets poor marks for performance. Here in "Death Valley" Florida, my car's A/C performance is the biggest consideration for purchase. Does the Telluride have superior A/C? If there are glitches, this forum is the place to find out. I'm already annoyed with the vulnerable condensor situation with holes getting poked through. I absolutely need superb a/c. My 23 year old 2001 Lexus LS430 pushes out cold air immediately after sitting in the sun and will become frigid in no time.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

I'm already annoyed with the vulnerable condensor situation with holes getting poked through. I absolutely need superb a/c.

Easily rectified by purchasing a grill screen kit. One of the favorites is made by Voltshop. They are very easy to install BEHIND the grill.

 

[Bocatrip]

Easily rectified by purchasing a grill screen kit. One of the favorites is made by Voltshop. They are very easy to install BEHIND the grill.

Yes, Thank you for that fix... What I'm concerned about is does the A/C work well in super hot climates? Does it cool off the car efficiently? I know many of the German cars (BMW and Mercedes) are lacking in the A/C dept. Thanks again.

 

[RNunz]

Please don't tell me that the A/C in the Telluride gets poor marks for performance. Here in "Death Valley" Florida, my car's A/C performance is the biggest consideration for purchase. Does the Telluride have superior A/C? If there are glitches, this forum is the place to find out. I'm already annoyed with the vulnerable condensor situation with holes getting poked through. I absolutely need superb a/c. My 23 year old 2001 Lexus LS430 pushes out cold air immediately after sitting in the sun and will become frigid in no time.

I commented earlier about the A/C power being reduced when the auto-stop is engaged (at a stop light, for example, when first getting into a hot car). In general, the A/C in my 2023 EX is amazing. Really cold, strong air flow, and the cooled seats really work well. I have no complaints at all about the cooling system in the car, and I HATE to be hot. I figured I should clarify so you don't have the wrong impression.

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[Bocatrip]

I commented earlier about the A/C power being reduced when the auto-stop is engaged (at a stop light, for example, when first getting into a hot car). In general, the A/C in my 2023 EX is amazing. Really cold, strong air flow, and the cooled seats really work well. I have no complaints at all about the cooling system in the car, and I HATE to be hot. I figured I should clarify so you don't have the wrong impression.

RNunz....I'll assume that if the auto-stop is disabled (which I would do upon entering my car) there is NO reduction in the a/c cooling off power?

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

Yes, Thank you for that fix... What I'm concerned about is does the A/C work well in super hot climates? Does it cool off the car efficiently? I know many of the German cars (BMW and Mercedes) are lacking in the A/C dept. Thanks again.

RNunz....I'll assume that if the auto-stop is disabled (which I would do upon entering my car) there is NO reduction in the a/c cooling off power?

2nd question first. NO, there is no reduction in the a/c cooling off power.
I live in central VA, just a stone's throw from the dreaded sweltering summers of Washington, DC, where the "real feel" temperature (heat + humidity) is seldom out of the low 100s (July, August, and September). The Telluride IMO does a great job of keeping everything cool for such a big interior. So much so that my wife has to keep the sync button off and likes to increase her side up to at least 76, sometimes higher. After a few minutes, I switch my driver's side from 70 up to 72 and turn the fan down to low.

I see southern Florida is having quite a hot summer - but your use of the term "Death Valley" is a misnomer, as the real Death Valley is dry as a bone. In the past, I lived in Melbourne and Ft. Pierce - the humidity is what kills you, just like New Orleans, Houston, anywhere along the Gulf Coast, Orlando, Atlanta, and yes DC.

 

[Bocatrip]

2nd question first. NO, there is no reduction in the a/c cooling off power.
I live in central VA, just a stone's throw from the dreaded sweltering summers of Washington, DC, where the "real feel" temperature (heat + humidity) is seldom out of the low 100s (July, August, and September). The Telluride IMO does a great job of keeping everything cool for such a big interior. So much so that my wife has to keep the sync button off and likes to increase her side up to at least 76, sometimes higher. After a few minutes, I switch my driver's side from 70 up to 72 and turn the fan down to low.

I see southern Florida is having quite a hot summer - but your use of the term "Death Valley" is a misnomer, as the real Death Valley is dry as a bone. In the past, I lived in Melbourne and Ft. Pierce - the humidity is what kills you, just like New Orleans, Houston, anywhere along the Gulf Coast, Orlando, Atlanta, and yes DC.

Yes, my term "Death Valley" was only used to emphasize the dread of the heat. I've noticed that the rear vents (specifically for the 2nd row seating) is not placed at the center console area, as most sedans have it. I'll assume that placing them at the headliner does an effective job cooling as well? Of course, I rarely have passengers, so that aspect doesn't phase me very much. Your description of the a/c cooling capabilities satisfies my concern. Now, all I need to do is test drive a Telly that's been sitting in the blazing sun here in Florida, which shouldn't be hard to do. Thanks for the imput.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

I've noticed that the rear vents (specifically for the 2nd row seating) is not placed at the center console area, as most sedans have it. I'll assume that placing them at the headliner does an effective job cooling as well? Of course, I rarely have passengers, so that aspect doesn't phase me very much. Your description of the a/c cooling capabilities satisfies my concern. Now, all I need to do is test drive a Telly that's been sitting in the blazing sun here in Florida, which shouldn't be hard to do.

I have no idea about the back seat, but my adult daughter, who can't take the heat, says it is fine back there (2nd row). As cool air falls instead of rising, the headliner vents should be great.

One thing you may want to do - if you are determined to check out the AC from the moment you step into the car, after it has baked in the sun, you may want to let the dealer know this ahead of time, otherwise if they know you are coming for a test drive at a certain time, they will have the car waiting and running.

Of course, realize the inside temp will be up in triple digits, and the first couple of minutes the AC will not seem too cold. Sit in the car and immediately turn on the ventilated seats to help you cool off.

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[RNunz]

RNunz....I'll assume that if the auto-stop is disabled (which I would do upon entering my car) there is NO reduction in the a/c cooling off power?

I believe that is correct. I've been turning off Auto-stop over the last few days and I have not noticed the AC power decreasing at all upon stopping at traffic lights. Just the opposite - I love how cold and strong my AC is.

RE: cooling a hot Telly upon first entering....I think there's a button/feature on the key fob that lowers all windows for quick heat release that you can use as you approach. I haven't used it myself, but I recall reading about it either in this forum or in the user manual.

 

[Bocatrip]

Thanks everyone for the valuable information. I happen to be a car enthusiast belonging to a number of forums. This forum is extremely friendly and quite helpful.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

RE: cooling a hot Telly upon first entering....I think there's a button/feature on the key fob that lowers all windows for quick heat release that you can use as you approach. I haven't used it myself, but I recall reading about it either in this forum or on the user manual.

Yes, you hold down the Unlock button for like 4-5 seconds and all the windows will open all the way.

 

[justafew]

Thanks everyone for the valuable information. I happen to be a car enthusiast belonging to a number of forums. This forum is extremely friendly and quite helpful.

Just adding my two cents to the discussion. One week with my new '24 Telly and the A/C is really, really good. Which is a relief as I'm much like you - I get hot so easily and cannot stand when someone's car or house is hot or stuffy. I had a '17 Infiniti Qx60 and it was pretty good if I kept it to around 72-73 and the cooling seats helped a bit. I live in Dallas, TX and this past week the coolest it has been was around 103, typically with the humidity/heat index making it "feel like" 106-115. But yesterday in my new Telly, I was driving around in 103+ temps with a/c set to 72 and cooling seats on (which btw, are far superior to my QX cooling seats!), I had to turn the a/c up to about 75 because I was actually getting COLD.

Also, at least for now during the free trial, I can use the Kia Access app and remote start my engine. So at work last week, I was still on the third floor of my building, started it remotely from the app and by the time I got out to my car, it had already started cooling down despite it being 106 that day.

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[TellurideCoug]

You are wrong on how they call it. Right in the "build" is this:

• Harmon Kardon® Premium Audio System

But, I agree with the main point you are making. It is junk and most of us will put up with it.

Tellme,

Very well said. Hey, what is....an "Auto-Stop Eliminator"?

Edit: I Googled it. First comes AMZ listings....which didn't clearly explain its "patch cord" purpose.

Then I found this definition:

Disable The Auto Stop On Your Vehicle​

"What is Auto Stop-Start? The Auto Stop-Start or Engine Stop-Start (ESS) or Idle Stop & Go (ISG) vehicle feature is designed by auto manufacturers as an attempt to improve fuel economy while a vehicle is at rest. How this feature worksis by when the brake is applied and the vehicle is stopped, the engine temporarily turns off and automatically restarts as the brake is released. Unfortunately, real-world fuel savings are minimal and this functionality is forced upon consumers without an option to permanently disable auto start-stop."

Is this correct? So....at traffic lights, or stop signs.....I find it irritating that all new vehicles today go into an Auto Stop. Of course, you get used to it....but find it irritating. Research says the gas savings is minimal.

This eliminates that, correct?

Would you recommend the patch cord? If so, why?

Where did you buy your Auto Stop? AMZ?

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

Tellme,

Very well said. Hey, what is....an "Auto-Stop Eliminator"?

The "Auto-Stop Eliminator" is a neat device that gets installed underneath the center console (just behind the shifter), that with the push of the ISG OFF button, you can either enable or disable ISG. (ISG means Idle, Stop and Go.) It is the only way to keep ISG OFF permanently without having to resort to jamming (wedging) small pieces of plastic down alongside the button.

You may wonder why would anyone want to disable ISG? The repetitive starting of the engine during city driving adds undue wear and tear on the starter and battery for miniscule (if even that) savings in gas. ISG is a gimmick created out of Washington and forced on the auto industry.

 

[TellurideCoug]

The "Auto-Stop Eliminator" is a neat device that gets installed underneath the center console (just behind the shifter), that with the push of the ISG OFF button, you can either enable or disable ISG. (ISG means Idle, Stop and Go.) It is the only way to keep ISG OFF permanently without having to resort to jamming (wedging) small pieces of plastic down alongside the button.

Thanks. I just watched a YouTube for installation. Pretty easy install, and just zip tie it, and you're done. Did you buy yours on AMZ?

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

Thanks. I just watched a YouTube for installation. Pretty easy install, and just zip tie it, and you're done. Did you buy yours on AMZ?

I bought it directly from the company - you have to choose the car make. Free shipping as I remember.

Kia Auto Stop Deactivated Permanently

The Autostop Eliminator is designed to safely deactivate Kia auto stop feature permanently. Plug it in & it’s ready to work. Disable Kia ISG feature today

www.autostopeliminator.com

It is a pretty simple install, but I would advise to have a second person assist in keeping the console raised while you attach the zip ties. There ain't much room or light.

I can think of a situation where I actually might want to have ISG working and that would be if I were stuck for hours on an interstate due to a long traffic jam and I had very little fuel.

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[TellurideCoug]

I bought it directly from the company - you have to choose the car make. Free shipping as I remember.

Kia Auto Stop Deactivated Permanently

The Autostop Eliminator is designed to safely deactivate Kia auto stop feature permanently. Plug it in & it’s ready to work. Disable Kia ISG feature today

www.autostopeliminator.com

It is a pretty simple install, but I would advise to have a second person assist in keeping the console raised while you attach the zip ties. There ain't much room or light.

I can think of a situation where I actually might want to have ISG working and that would be if I were stuck for hours on an interstate due to a long traffic jam and I had very little fuel.

Well said. Thanks for the intel and the link. Essentially, it just eliminates the minor "pain point" of having to push the Auto-Stop button "OFF" or Disable button...every single ride, correct?

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

Well said. Thanks for the intel and the link. Essentially, it just eliminates the minor "pain point" of having to push the Auto-Stop button "OFF" every single ride, correct?

That is correct. Some find it an expensive fix, others (like me) enjoy not having to remember to turn the damn thing off each time you get in the car. I've had installed now for a couple of months and it was money well spent!

 

[gregorian79]

Another very happy autostopeliminator customer here. It was a breeze to install and easily some of the best, if not THE best, upgrade I've done

 

[TellurideCoug]

Another very happy autostopeliminator customer here. It was a breeze to install and easily some of the best, if not THE best, upgrade I've done

Is the AutoStop a federal or EPA mandate? It seems like a new model cars and manufactures, since like 2017 have AutoStop. Is this like the water restrictions in toilets and shower heads mandated by the feds?

My quick Google search, (sorry Bing), doesn't really answer the question:

"Stop-start systems are fitted to the vast majority of modern cars – from superminis to supercars – in order to reduce emissions and fuel consumption. There are a number of different systems on the market, but they all fundamentally do the same thing."

Question: Are auto manufactures REQUIRED by the feds to be compliant?