Husker Soze
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Like what someone stated above...ACEA is the Euro standard and the API is the N. American standard.
As long as it's meeting the recommended spec... brand would be just a users preference.
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Like what someone stated above...ACEA is the Euro standard and the API is the N. American standard.
As long as it's meeting the recommended spec... brand would be just a users preference.
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Yes, and Pennzoil meets NA and Euro.
Husker Soze
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Yes, and I'm not arguing that.
I may have misunderstood your original comment....because it looked like you're presuming that the Costco branded oil doesn't meet the specs just because it doesn't have the ACEA printed on the label.
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Costco has a very good oil, really good price.
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I just came back from oil change appointment with Toyota on my Rav4 Hybrid. It's been a year since my last oil change and I only drove 2330 miles! After 15% Costco coupon, $75 reduced to $60. I thought it was a decent deal for a fully synthetic oil, but holy guacamole, Costco Kirkland brand synthetic oils are so cheap! I think I will be DIY oil changer from now on for both Rav4 and Telluride, using Costco oil.
Where do you guys buy your oil filters? Is eBay best place to get OEM filters for cheap?
Where do you guys buy your oil filters? Is eBay best place to get OEM filters for cheap?
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Is this one the Costco oil you are referring to? I'm not seeing the "5w-30 SN Plus, GF-5, GF-4 etc" specs on the page.
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Is this the one you are referring to?
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I always buy factory oil filters and you can buy thenm cheaper than aftermarkets. Look on Amazon or EBay, yes usually EBay.
The Costco oil is not an ACEA A5 specification oil. Assuming you are in the US, ACEA A5 oil is available to you, and you are supposed to use it as per your user manual. The alternative spec oils are available to be used if you are in a country that does not have ACEA A5 oils available. Also, for those claiming the specs are the same, but from different regions, that is incorrect. The Costco oil is Dexos1 gen 2 compliant and as such cannot be ACEA A5 compliant as the shear viscosity ranges do not overlap.
As a side note, the A5 oil is designed for fuel economy and that Costco oil is most likely better for your engine (Wear, sludge, soot). However, if you need to make a warranty claim you are now going to have to make the argument that the oil specs are the same to a Kia warranty rep who can easily say its not. Who is right? Well, you may need a lawyer to help with that one, and you may win as Kia would probably have to prove that it was your choice in oil that caused the issue which would be tough I think because its ok to use in other countries. Decisions, decisions.
As a side note, the A5 oil is designed for fuel economy and that Costco oil is most likely better for your engine (Wear, sludge, soot). However, if you need to make a warranty claim you are now going to have to make the argument that the oil specs are the same to a Kia warranty rep who can easily say its not. Who is right? Well, you may need a lawyer to help with that one, and you may win as Kia would probably have to prove that it was your choice in oil that caused the issue which would be tough I think because its ok to use in other countries. Decisions, decisions.
Slow down slick. Your spewing mis-information.
The Costco oil meets the spec. which is listed by KIA Motors. Costco could pay another $100,000 dollars to a lab to process and test, and then be able to put ACEA A5 on it. Re-read your manual. Not all oil makers pay to have a certain spec listed.
You should probably pay $25 a quart for TOTAL oil then.
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"Costco could pay another $100,000 dollars to a lab to process and test, and then be able to put ACEA A5 on it."
Not if they want it also to be Dexos compliant. The specs are mutually exclusive concerning their shear viscosity.
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You are misinformed, and are also spreading disinformation in stating that The Costco Oil which meets Dexos specification is also ACEA A5 compliant or could be ACEA A5 compliant if tested to it. The manufacturer of the Costco oil is readily available on the internet, you can give them a call to confirm.
I re-read the manual too, page 9, "If the ACEA A5 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use API SM & ILSAC GF-4 (or above) or ACEA A3." Is that why you think you are able to use the the Costco oil? You do know ACEA A5 is available in the USA right?
Not if they want it also to be Dexos compliant. The specs are mutually exclusive concerning their shear viscosity.
ACEA A5 B5-21
ACEA A5/B5 oils are Upper Mainline lubricants. They are designed for use in high performance gasoline and light duty diesel engines that are specifically designed to use a low viscosity oil. These oils may be unsuitable for use in some engines.
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I re-read the manual too, page 9, "If the ACEA A5 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use API SM & ILSAC GF-4 (or above) or ACEA A3." Is that why you think you are able to use the the Costco oil? You do know ACEA A5 is available in the USA right?
I never said the Costco Oil is ACEA A5, but, that does not mean it could not meet that spec if tested."Costco could pay another $100,000 dollars to a lab to process and test, and then be able to put ACEA A5 on it."
Not if they want it also to be Dexos compliant. The specs are mutually exclusive concerning their shear viscosity.
ACEA A5 B5-21
ACEA A5/B5 oils are Upper Mainline lubricants. They are designed for use in high performance gasoline and light duty diesel engines that are specifically designed to use a low viscosity oil. These oils may be unsuitable for use in some engines.You are misinformed, and are also spreading disinformation in stating that The Costco Oil which meets Dexos specification is also ACEA A5 compliant or could be ACEA A5 compliant if tested to it. The manufacturer of the Costco oil is readily available on the internet, you can give them a call to confirm.GM dexos2
I re-read the manual too, page 9, "If the ACEA A5 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use API SM & ILSAC GF-4 (or above) or ACEA A3." Is that why you think you are able to use the the Costco oil? You do know ACEA A5 is available in the USA right?
You need better reading comprehension.
It does not matter if ACEA A5 is available.
You should buy TOTAL oil for your ride and be done with it.
ACEA spec is a Europeon thing. Many manufacturers test to that spec to have that label. I do not think the Costco oil is being sold in Europe. If you notice, the costco oil only list the API North American spec.
If Costco wanted to properly sell their oil in Europe. They would need to have testing, and get a ACEA rating.
All the big manufacturers which sell oil around the world, should have both API and ACEA specs.
The Costco oil is API SN Plus.
Go to the Bob Is The Oil Guy forum and complain.
I would bet, technically, ACEA A5 is available in every country through one channel or another. I've said it in other threads but I'll mention it here, again. If Kia wants to deny your warranty due to "bad" oil, they will. Regardless of what was used. I would think that if you fight them, they would have to prove how the oil caused the warranty issue. I would also suspect it is not too easy to determine ACEA A5 spec from used, high quality synthetics. People are too hypersensitive about oil brands these days. I wonder how many warranty claims ANY manufacturer has denied based on a particular BRAND of oil.
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