Front Collision not Braking for Pedestrians

[Brucemit]

My 2022 Telluride SX AWD (and, btw, I love this car) will not brake to avoid hitting a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds. Took it to the dealer for some other work and they checked it out, did sfw update and calibration to "reactivate the system." However, I can still run right into a padded trashcan with no front braking. Same for the rear - they tell me if there is a moving/walking person to the rear it will brake - I've not managed to test that. {note: I'm certain that forward collision active assist setting is enabled} Dealer, oddly, seems unsure of what this car should do in terms of anti-slow-collision braking.

Question: Should the Telluride stop me from running into a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds?

Thanks for your sharing what you know on this topic...

-Bruce

 

[scottw324]

My 2022 Telluride SX AWD (and, btw, I love this car) will not brake to avoid hitting a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds. Took it to the dealer for some other work and they checked it out, did sfw update and calibration to "reactivate the system." However, I can still run right into a padded trashcan with no front braking. Same for the rear - they tell me if there is a moving/walking person to the rear it will brake - I've not managed to test that. {note: I'm certain that forward collision active assist setting is enabled} Dealer, oddly, seems unsure of what this car should do in terms of anti-slow-collision braking.

Question: Should the Telluride stop me from running into a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds?

Thanks for your sharing what you know on this topic...

-Bruce

The padded trash can isn't a threat. Try running into a walking pedestrian or a stationary tree and let us know how it reacts. Curious to see what happens.

 

[bruesjoh04]

My 2022 Telluride SX AWD (and, btw, I love this car) will not brake to avoid hitting a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds. Took it to the dealer for some other work and they checked it out, did sfw update and calibration to "reactivate the system." However, I can still run right into a padded trashcan with no front braking. Same for the rear - they tell me if there is a moving/walking person to the rear it will brake - I've not managed to test that. {note: I'm certain that forward collision active assist setting is enabled} Dealer, oddly, seems unsure of what this car should do in terms of anti-slow-collision braking.

Question: Should the Telluride stop me from running into a tree or a pedestrian at low speeds?

Thanks for your sharing what you know on this topic...

-Bruce

The forward collision avoidance system is specifically trained on vehicles, cycles, and pedestrians. It will not recognize or react to trees or trash cans.

As always, I recommend not trying to test the system. Read the manual, understand how the system works and understand its limitations. Do not try at-home tests. They are not helpful.

 

[Brucemit]

Roger that. Interesting that it gives me all kinds of visual dash warning and beeping but will let me drive right into a parked car or a tree or a box.

You guys are correct, it is not at all designed to stop you from hitting a parked car or a wall, but only certain shapes or moving things (such as a pedestrian). Also generally will not activate if you are doing less than 6 mph or if you already have any braking pressure. It is a very discriminating system!

And thanks: I did go back and read manual pages 5-55 thru 5-68 specifically on the whole FCA system.

By comparison, I've been in a Lexus SUV that will not let you run into a car or a wall - it brakes well before you hit any stationary object, incl a trash can or stack of cardboard boxes. In fact if you have a bike rack on the back of the car it will not even let you back up until you turn off the rear avoidance.

In summation, I guess I'll keep driving the way I always have - which is to not run into stationary things. I can do that. But honestly, I'd prefer it if the Telluride had an option that would keep me from backing into a tree or a wall or another parked car.

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[scottw324]

Roger that. Interesting that it gives me all kinds of visual dash warning and beeping but will let me drive right into a parked car or a tree or a box.

You guys are correct, it is not at all designed to stop you from hitting a parked car or a wall, but only certain shapes or moving things (such as a pedestrian). Also generally will not activate if you are doing less than 6 mph or if you already have any braking pressure. It is a very discriminating system!

And thanks: I did go back and read manual pages 5-55 thru 5-68 specifically on the whole FCA system.

By comparison, I've been in a Lexus SUV that will not let you run into a car or a wall - it brakes well before you hit any stationary object, incl a trash can or stack of cardboard boxes. In fact if you have a bike rack on the back of the car it will not even let you back up until you turn off the rear avoidance.

In summation, I guess I'll keep driving the way I always have - which is to not run into stationary things. I can do that. But honestly, I'd prefer it if the Telluride had an option that would keep me from backing into a tree or a wall or another parked car.

It does come with a 10.2 or 12.X screen with a backup camera. Not sure if the '23 SX comes with surround cameras to give you a 360 degree view but it is a little hard to back into something if you are using the camera. If you do, maybe you shouldn't be driving (not dinging you specifically, just stating that as a general statement).

 

[Brucemit]

It does come with a 10.2 or 12.X screen with a backup camera. Not sure if the '23 SX comes with surround cameras to give you a 360 degree view but it is a little hard to back into something if you are using the camera. If you do, maybe you shouldn't be driving (not dinging you specifically, just stating that as a general statement).

I guess you might say the same thing about the lane assist or the blind-spot warnings or other safety/assist features. I think they're a good idea, given my understanding of human fallibility. I got run into (was front-ended at about ten mph) by a nice young woman who got distracted by a child in her car a few years back.

Distractions happen and I'll take all the help I can get!

 

[scottw324]

I guess you might say the same thing about the lane assist or the blind-spot warnings or other safety/assist features. I think they're a good idea, given my understanding of human fallibility. I got run into (was front-ended at about ten mph) by a nice young woman who got distracted by a child in her car a few years back.

Distractions happen and I'll take all the help I can get!

The auto break head on collision feature I hate. I'll be pretty far away or the car in front of me is slowing down to turn while I am approaching and it starts going off, sometimes starting to break, which I'm waiting for the car behind me to rear end me.
Lane assist I use for long distance drives, not daily driving to and from work or around town.

 

[Pappy]

In summation, I guess I'll keep driving the way I always have - which is to not run into stationary things. I can do that. But honestly, I'd prefer it if the Telluride had an option that would keep me from backing into a tree or a wall or another parked car.

Your original question was about the forward system. I have a 2022 EX, so no forward sensors, but the rear system will warn me, and brake if necessary, when I am parking and approaching a parked car or stationary object.

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[Brucemit]

The auto break head on collision feature I hate. I'll be pretty far away or the car in front of me is slowing down to turn while I am approaching and it starts going off, sometimes starting to break, which I'm waiting for the car behind me to rear end me.
Lane assist I use for long distance drives, not daily driving to and from work or around town.

Interesting. I never get any auto-braking unless I' in cruise control and a car slows suddenly. I only use cruise on fwys.

 

[Brucemit]

Your original question was about the forward system. I have a 2022 EX, so no forward sensors, but the rear system will warn me, and brake if necessary, when I am parking and approaching a parked car or stationary object.

That's interesting. I've never had my 2023 SX apply braking when in reverse.

 

[Pappy]

That's interesting. I've never had my 2023 SX apply braking when in reverse.

Is there any chance you are disabling the sensors by pushing the button by the shifter?

 

[Brucemit]

That's not the case. I do sometimes use that button to disable audible alerts when backing up with a bike rack mounted, but not generally. Good ask, tho.

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