LED taillights on higher trims, price and direct plug and play on LX?

[Augie1209]

Does anyone know or can find out if the higher trims LED taillights are a direct plug and play swap for the LX tails?

Also how much and when might they be avail to purchase?

 

[tylor]

It's very unlikely that the LED taillights will be directly swappable with the incandescent ones, as the wiring harness and electronics are likely completely different to account for the lower current draw of the LEDs. Additionally, the LED taillights act as both the brake light and blinker, where the incandescent ones only have brake light functionality. I suppose it's not completely impossible, but it would likely be very expensive and time consuming to complete (I'm guessing $200-$400 per tail light module alone). Alternatively, you could swap out the incandescent bulbs with good quality LEDs, which would still be an improvement over stock - brighter and much quicker response times. Just keep in mind that a load resistor or replacement LED-compatible flasher module would be necessary to prevent hyperflash, and be sure to buy red LEDs to replace the brake and turn signal bulbs, as the lenses/housing in front of them are also red. White LEDs behind a red tail light or blinker lens will produce a pinkish look rather than bright red.

 

[Augie1209]

I can’t imagine the wiring being much different, other than 2 or 3 wires going down into the bumper on the LX since its turns are on the reflector type housings. I may be completely wrong though.

I’d be willing to pay $400-600 for the two housings if it’s just a matter of moving those few wires back up top to the main housings.

 

[Augie1209]

And I don’t think just throwing in led bulbs would give the same effect as the led strips do in the higher trims.

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[tylor]

After re-reading my original reply, it likely wouldn't be as difficult as I made it sound; I must've been feeling pessimistic yesterday, lol! If you're comfortable with rigging up some of the wiring, it probably wouldn't be too difficult of a swap, as long as all the mounting points and cable clearance is the same on both versions (I don't know why they wouldn't be). The only other obstacle you may run into would be flashing issues due to the lower current draw of the LEDs, which could be remedied by load resistors or an LED flasher module. Depending on how the blinkers are wired front to back, you may also want to replace the front incandescent flasher bulbs with LEDs as well to normalize the current and load on the lines. I agree that just replacing the brake light and turn signal bulbs will definitely not have the same affect as the upper model's LED strips in the tail lights, but if worse comes to worse and it isn't feasible to replace the entire housing, LED bulbs will still look better than the stock incandescent.

 

[Augie1209]

Thanks! I would think if there were any type of module it would be built into the housing. I’d be interested in seeing one of the higher trims with a taillight removed if anyone on here has a pic of one!

 

[Konstantin]

I was thinking the same. SX in Canada doesn't come with LED taillights. I'll patiently wait until there is some after market or OEM LED ones available for sale.

 

[LtFireguy]

I was thinking the same. SX in Canada doesn't come with LED taillights. I'll patiently wait until there is some after market or OEM LED ones available for sale.

SX Limited is the only one in Canada that comes with LED tail lights.

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[Jethro]

Has anyone tried tried this yet? I would be interested too.

 

[AzuNyan]

After re-reading my original reply, it likely wouldn't be as difficult as I made it sound; I must've been feeling pessimistic yesterday, lol! If you're comfortable with rigging up some of the wiring, it probably wouldn't be too difficult of a swap, as long as all the mounting points and cable clearance is the same on both versions (I don't know why they wouldn't be). The only other obstacle you may run into would be flashing issues due to the lower current draw of the LEDs, which could be remedied by load resistors or an LED flasher module. Depending on how the blinkers are wired front to back, you may also want to replace the front incandescent flasher bulbs with LEDs as well to normalize the current and load on the lines. I agree that just replacing the brake light and turn signal bulbs will definitely not have the same affect as the upper model's LED strips in the tail lights, but if worse comes to worse and it isn't feasible to replace the entire housing, LED bulbs will still look better than the stock incandescent.

I have a question regarding the turn signals. I had just recently upgraded my headlights and front turn signals into LEDs. And im thinking of doing the same for my tail lights, backup/reverse light, and turn signals into LEDs as well. I was looking up information regarding the lights in the back just so i know what i will have to deal with and ran across this thread, and your reply more specifically.

So, my question is since i have LED front turn signals and currently dont have the LED turn signals yet; will there be an issue regarding the draw output or something? I have an LX btw and im in the US (just in case it matters since it appears that canadian versions are somewhat different than in the US)

If anyone else would like also to chime in, that'd be nice!

EDIT: NEVERMIND. I just called the shop that put LEDs on. And they said that they took care of it. They put resistors or something (i forget the whole process and all the details) to balance everything out

 

[Echrisallen]

I have a question regarding the turn signals. I had just recently upgraded my headlights and front turn signals into LEDs. And im thinking of doing the same for my tail lights, backup/reverse light, and turn signals into LEDs as well. I was looking up information regarding the lights in the back just so i know what i will have to deal with and ran across this thread, and your reply more specifically.

So, my question is since i have LED front turn signals and currently dont have the LED turn signals yet; will there be an issue regarding the draw output or something? I have an LX btw and im in the US (just in case it matters since it appears that canadian versions are somewhat different than in the US)

If anyone else would like also to chime in, that'd be nice!

EDIT: NEVERMIND. I just called the shop that put LEDs on. And they said that they took care of it. They put resistors or something (i forget the whole process and all the details) to balance everything out

Hey man. Email me your LED your changed in your LX. I want same setup and want to know how to. @AzuNyan

 

[Echrisallen]

Ca.allen07@gmail.com @AzuNyan

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[mrad31]

I have removed my SX LED Taillamps to add rear fog lights in the bumper. I don’t recall the pinouts being the same between halogen and LED. But if you’re willing to work at it a bit I’m sure it’s possible.

 

[szillaxl]

Could we not add a jumper to the top section of the non led tail light assemblies so that when the brakes are actuated both of the sections light up. Are there two or three bulbs in the assembly?
I took these pics from the internet and have not attempted this yet. Just attaching for illustrative purposes

 

[Telley]

Following

 

[mrad31]

@szillaxl yes you could. I looked into this as for a moment it seemed many were interested in buying an adapter harness to make all 3 halogen bulbs actuate when braking and/or an adapter harness to make the OEM LED assemblies from U.S. EX/SX trims work on lower trims. Both are possible; the former would likely require LED retrofits for the bulbs because that would mean 3x the current and from what I've seen in pictures the taillight harness uses a pretty small gauge wire. I stopped pursuing parts and test components as I only got 3 serious inquiries.

Btw there are actually 4 bulbs in each assembly. 2 tail, 1 brake/tail, and a marker light.

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[Telley]

I would love to hear from anyone who did the swap to the EX/SX tailights OR anyone who swapped out to the LED and all three bulbs light when braking.
Anyone???

 

[PatMatt]

Hello there,

Bear with me, I'm French Canadian often working in English, so I can get some phrases not too bad in writing

I did try swapping incandescent bulbs with LEDs in the tail lights : 4 bulbs in each assembly. 2 tail, 1 brake/tail, and a marker light.
I've got Canadian SX model, which does not have the LED tail lights. Also, turn signal is in the bumper.
My intial plan was to first swap bulbs, and then ask local shop to move turn signal in the tail light.
Swapping worked well, until I pressed the brake pedal. Then I've got this big error message in the dash, the one beeping every minute, saying I should check brake lights. It's kinda hard to get rid of !
Functionality is okay, but I'm tired of seeing this error message.
And No, my bulbs are not Canbus, as I read somewhere it would not change this behaviour, especially for Palissade and Telluride. These models are too recent to be fooled by those lamps. Resistors would have been needed. Don't want to go there, too much work. For me and local shop, maybe would cost more and ... I'm a bit worried about risking my warranty for these part, electricity and all ...
So ... I did order original LED tail lights from Ebay, waiting for them.
Today I'm putting incandescent bulbs back in the housing, and will return led bulbs to Amazon.
Once I get the LED tail lights housings, I'll go to local shop (I already spoke to them they're used to that kind of mod) to can get the turn signal moved up in the tail light, as it's the case for most models in the US.
This will involve resistors, and making sure they're using the right wire to tap into, when they move turn from bumper to tail lights.

So ... this brings me to that question : DOES ANYONE have the WIRING diagram for US MODELS LED TAIL LIGHTS ? I've found something on this forum, but it seems to be showing the middle-east way of using led tail lights ... all functionality in the tail lights, except turn signal. For those who are shopping for LED Tail Lights, those are the 3-pins white connectors (seen in the middle-east) instead of the 4-pins black the US have.

So ... again ... will post news when it's all done. But I guess it will come down to what the other guy said : gave it all to local body shop so they can take care of it To be continued !

 

[Telley]

Hello there,

Bear with me, I'm French Canadian often working in English, so I can get some phrases not too bad in writing

I did try swapping incandescent bulbs with LEDs in the tail lights : 4 bulbs in each assembly. 2 tail, 1 brake/tail, and a marker light.
I've got Canadian SX model, which does not have the LED tail lights. Also, turn signal is in the bumper.
My intial plan was to first swap bulbs, and then ask local shop to move turn signal in the tail light.
Swapping worked well, until I pressed the brake pedal. Then I've got this big error message in the dash, the one beeping every minute, saying I should check brake lights. It's kinda hard to get rid of !
Functionality is okay, but I'm tired of seeing this error message.
And No, my bulbs are not Canbus, as I read somewhere it would not change this behaviour, especially for Palissade and Telluride. These models are too recent to be fooled by those lamps. Resistors would have been needed. Don't want to go there, too much work. For me and local shop, maybe would cost more and ... I'm a bit worried about risking my warranty for these part, electricity and all ...
So ... I did order original LED tail lights from Ebay, waiting for them.
Today I'm putting incandescent bulbs back in the housing, and will return led bulbs to Amazon.
Once I get the LED tail lights housings, I'll go to local shop (I already spoke to them they're used to that kind of mod) to can get the turn signal moved up in the tail light, as it's the case for most models in the US.
This will involve resistors, and making sure they're using the right wire to tap into, when they move turn from bumper to tail lights.

So ... this brings me to that question : DOES ANYONE have the WIRING diagram for US MODELS LED TAIL LIGHTS ? I've found something on this forum, but it seems to be showing the middle-east way of using led tail lights ... all functionality in the tail lights, except turn signal. For those who are shopping for LED Tail Lights, those are the 3-pins white connectors (seen in the middle-east) instead of the 4-pins black the US have.

So ... again ... will post news when it's all done. But I guess it will come down to what the other guy said : gave it all to local body shop so they can take care of it To be continued !

Thanks! Keep us posted!

 

[Patsfan29]

Hello there,

Bear with me, I'm French Canadian often working in English, so I can get some phrases not too bad in writing

I did try swapping incandescent bulbs with LEDs in the tail lights : 4 bulbs in each assembly. 2 tail, 1 brake/tail, and a marker light.
I've got Canadian SX model, which does not have the LED tail lights. Also, turn signal is in the bumper.
My intial plan was to first swap bulbs, and then ask local shop to move turn signal in the tail light.
Swapping worked well, until I pressed the brake pedal. Then I've got this big error message in the dash, the one beeping every minute, saying I should check brake lights. It's kinda hard to get rid of !
Functionality is okay, but I'm tired of seeing this error message.
And No, my bulbs are not Canbus, as I read somewhere it would not change this behaviour, especially for Palissade and Telluride. These models are too recent to be fooled by those lamps. Resistors would have been needed. Don't want to go there, too much work. For me and local shop, maybe would cost more and ... I'm a bit worried about risking my warranty for these part, electricity and all ...
So ... I did order original LED tail lights from Ebay, waiting for them.
Today I'm putting incandescent bulbs back in the housing, and will return led bulbs to Amazon.
Once I get the LED tail lights housings, I'll go to local shop (I already spoke to them they're used to that kind of mod) to can get the turn signal moved up in the tail light, as it's the case for most models in the US.
This will involve resistors, and making sure they're using the right wire to tap into, when they move turn from bumper to tail lights.

So ... this brings me to that question : DOES ANYONE have the WIRING diagram for US MODELS LED TAIL LIGHTS ? I've found something on this forum, but it seems to be showing the middle-east way of using led tail lights ... all functionality in the tail lights, except turn signal. For those who are shopping for LED Tail Lights, those are the 3-pins white connectors (seen in the middle-east) instead of the 4-pins black the US have.

So ... again ... will post news when it's all done. But I guess it will come down to what the other guy said : gave it all to local body shop so they can take care of it To be continued !

I have the diagrams shared from another member. Send me email and I will get them to you. Please keep us posted as this is something I am wanting to do so bad to our S