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Our test drive

MELISSAB

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I mentioned in another thread that my husband and I took a test drive and crawl through of a trim S model Saturday. Thought I'd share a few thoughts for anyone that hasn't had a chance to get in one yet.

I've been driving my 08 Honda Odyssey minivan for 11 years now, and have been in minivans for 25 years now so all my opinions are colored by comparisons to them. My husband has been in all sorts of different cars so he'd have a different experience. My main contender for our next vehicle which will be purchased sometime this summer probably is either the Telluride or the Palisade. Price will be one factor of course and these two are leading the race (presuming the Palisade is priced similarly) due to the features at the price point we are looking at. My main factors are that we keep as much cargo space as possible while still having 7-8 seats, that it's easy to get in and out of for everyone, and that it is comfortable to ride in. Minivans really have all of that figured out but my kids are all adults now so I'm ready for a change.

Outside, not a lot of opinions here. There was only one available at our dealer, an S trim, and it was fine. I'm not too fussy about that sort of thing but I do like the looks of the Palisade a bit better, I think it's the head and tail lights. The C pillar is nicer on the Telluride for looks, it just looks finished. Neither one of those would be the deciding factor for me. The climb in (while checking the third row) was easy enough. This was an 8 seat version so we had to do the squeeze between the 2nd and 3rd row deal. Getting back out was not as easy. I much prefer 7 seats as you can sit in the 2nd row seat before getting out. With the full 2nd row you can't and without running boards you have to sort of lean forward and fall out gracefully. I've got a bum ankle so this was difficult for me. We'll opt for 7 seats to avoid this. Though I've only been in the 3rd row of our vans twice I would prefer to avoid that for anyone else. Our Ody is an 8 seater with the middle seat in the middle row being removable, it has lived in our garage pretty much permanently for 11 years. I've not read anything to indicate this is the case with the Telluride which is a shame as it's the best of both worlds.

Inside I'm a little more opinionated. I'm 5'8" and found the third row was comfortable enough. The seat only reached about halfway the length of my thighs due to the angle, so I think there would probably be some fatigue for an adult of my height or more on more than a quick drive. My knees were not elevated a lot higher than my hips, no where near my chest at all, but not completely level either. With the 2nd row seat moved to a neutral position I still had room in front of my knees. With that same seat all the way back it was just brushing my knees in the 3rd row but not squishing them. I was not at all impressed with all the plastic in this row. We are looking at an EX or more likely SX so I'm hoping that there is more leather on the areas your arms touch back there. The second row and front seats were comfortable enough and with the extra power options for the driver and passenger I'm sure they will be perfectly comfortable.

The cargo space is enough with the 3rd row up for a week of family groceries and maybe enough luggage for a family weekend trip, even though far less than my van. I like the idea of the buttons in the trunk area to fold the second row seats flat for convenience, but not the action. They fold pretty violently. As in, you better be absolutely sure you didn't leave a bag of groceries or have a small child or pet climb into one of the second row seats before hitting that button or they will be squashed. If you have little ones, please check this out to see what I mean. It was a bit shocking. The third row folds and opens with a canvas strap which is exactly what I'm used to so that was fine but I do find the power folding seats to be appealing in the Palisade. I like the little cubby under the trunk floor, perfect for a first aid kit, jumper cables and the like.

I'm not sure yet how I feel about the grab bars on the sides of the center console up front. They are just kind of weird aren't they? When would you ever use them? And if they aren't meant to be grab bars, why put that strip across that area at all, it's not necessary and that would have made that area look more open. They will definitely be crumb catchers. I like the Palisade (from photos obviously) as it just seems more finished even if more crowded in that part.

I'm not used to the touch screen in a car, as my van doesn't have any of that stuff. I can't give any opinion there as I didn't really check it out, though I think the larger screen would be easier. I'm not impressed by the windshield view, but I think that's just a matter of form factor again. It seems the view is about half that of my van from top to bottom. I didn't drive but felt the ride was very quiet and smooth. I'm looking forward to the electronic safety features that have come out since I bought my van, though they seem fairly standard now. We only experienced the lane departure warning, on purpose, on our quick test drive.

That's about all I can share. We just wanted really to climb in the back row to see if it would suit or if I would want to opt for another minivan. We went to look at a Sorento at the same time and got as far as opening up the 3rd row and moving the 2nd row seat forward to decide it wasn't an option for us. Didn't even sit in it, it was a hard no based on entry to the 3rd row. Really, why would they bother, if you aren't a toddler you'd be contorting to get in the 3rd row and if you are, you'd be in a car seat and need help getting strapped in. Sheesh.

Hope something here is helpful to other readers.
 
When you mention folding seats, and this is seen on Palisade 3rd row too, with buttons.
That concerns me for small children. Sometimes is hard to bounce around with all of them in the car, and it would be a safety concern for someone to get squished in there. I remember that one kid getting stuck in Honda Odyssey and I don’t remember if they found him in time, but all those extra movements concern me.
There was a case in FL where dad put his kids in the car(teens) and he was putting stuff in the back, this is one of those big SUVs like Armada, and someone accidentally pressed D on the console, and his own Car ran him over and he didn’t make it. His two daughters will never recover from that, I know it’s just an accident, but as much as technology helps us out it can harm us too.
 
The case of the Honda Odyssey (they didn't find him in time) was the 3rd row seat not being anchored to the floor and as he tried to reach behind the third seat, the seat flipped back pinning him between the seat and the liftgate.

As with any feature, nothing beats common sense and safety, a quick look before hitting that button is all it takes...slow down
 
The Honda Odyssey seats are heavy both to fold down and to re-open. I can see how the owner wouldn't have had it latched into the floor correctly, you have to sort of let it slam into place to catch right. I can also see how that poor young man would have been trapped by the seat not latching. It's heavy and not super easy to lift when you are doing it correctly. Adding his weight onto it and being upside down and trapped was just a tragic set of circumstances.

For this vehicle I agree it is a common sense thing, but I think it's a bit of a safety issue too, that button was super easy to push. If you hit that button from behind the car you can't see full view to where the seat will flip down. Little kids can move really fast and it folded really fast too. If it folded down slowly I wouldn't have thought twice about it but it snapped down. We weren't in the car at the time so I didn't see it from the perspective of the 2nd row and my kids are all adult size now so for us it was more of a surprise than a concern. I just looked for a video to see if someone shows it and you can see the button in action here at the 21:20 mark.
The driver side 2nd row seat doesn't go all the way down in the video, it must be pulled up close enough to the driver seat for the headrest to catch on the back and slow it. The one on the passenger side does go all the way down. I can't tell if it is brushing the front passenger seat and slowing or more likely memory is faulty on this, but it doesn't look to happen nearly as fast as we saw in the one we test drove. This isn't something that would cause me to hesitate on buying it, it was just surprising. If you have little ones it may be prudent to keep the 2nd row seats pulled a little closer to the front seats as a bit of a barrier, just in case.
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I was thinking more like you go around the car to put something in One of your kids is sitting in the back or waiting and one pushes the button, or parents in the house or something.
I remember me taking my dads car keys when I was ten and going in And playing around in it, and couple of years later driving by myself around.
 
I’m six feet tall, with a long torso. I sat in the third row and my hair barely touched the ceiling. Additionally, in my assessment, three adults wil not fit in the 3rd row. Two comfy, but shoulder to shoulder, 3 will be might uncomfortable.
 
The Honda Odyssey seats are heavy both to fold down and to re-open. I can see how the owner wouldn't have had it latched into the floor correctly, you have to sort of let it slam into place to catch right. I can also see how that poor young man would have been trapped by the seat not latching. It's heavy and not super easy to lift when you are doing it correctly. Adding his weight onto it and being upside down and trapped was just a tragic set of circumstances.

For this vehicle I agree it is a common sense thing, but I think it's a bit of a safety issue too, that button was super easy to push. If you hit that button from behind the car you can't see full view to where the seat will flip down. Little kids can move really fast and it folded really fast too. If it folded down slowly I wouldn't have thought twice about it but it snapped down. We weren't in the car at the time so I didn't see it from the perspective of the 2nd row and my kids are all adult size now so for us it was more of a surprise than a concern. I just looked for a video to see if someone shows it and you can see the button in action here at the 21:20 mark.
The driver side 2nd row seat doesn't go all the way down in the video, it must be pulled up close enough to the driver seat for the headrest to catch on the back and slow it. The one on the passenger side does go all the way down. I can't tell if it is brushing the front passenger seat and slowing or more likely memory is faulty on this, but it doesn't look to happen nearly as fast as we saw in the one we test drove. This isn't something that would cause me to hesitate on buying it, it was just surprising. If you have little ones it may be prudent to keep the 2nd row seats pulled a little closer to the front seats as a bit of a barrier, just in case.
The reason that the drivers side didn’t fold down was because of the arm rest. The arm rest on the drivers side is down, which stopped it from folding flat. The passenger side is up so it doesn’t act as a stop.
 
Do you think some extra cusion padding on top of the 3rd row seating will help with increasing the seat height thus helping keep your knees away from your body ??
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Do you think some extra cusion padding on top of the 3rd row seating will help with increasing the seat height thus helping keep your knees away from your body ??
Seems like it would work as long as your passengers aren't tall and their head is close to the ceiling
 
Yes, adding cushions would probably help. Another poster said they are 6' tall and still had room above their head so unless you regularly have really tall 3rd row passengers, cushions would probably avoid the butt fatigue of not having a seat that fully supports the thighs too.

There was a video review from another poster about switching the badges. I asked in that thread if they'd take a video of the 2nd row seats folding without any encumbrances to clear that matter up. It may very well be that my memory is that the 2nd row folded with a snap but that it wasn't actually that fast, I hope that is the case.
 
The third row seat backs are retractable for increased head room.
So your raising ur but up then reclining your back... lol either way I don't think anyone really wants to be stuck in the 3rd row on a long roadtrip if your an adult. While its totally fine for everyday use and for kids on long road trips, I can't see an adult back there thats tall being okay for a long time.
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@timlaw71 made a video showing the 2nd row seat folding as I'd remembered and posted it on youtube. It's linked in a different thread here but I think it would be useful here too a I imagine not everyone reads all the posts. :) What the driver side 2nd row seat does in his video is what I saw in the model we tested. Again, not something that would keep me from buying but useful to see in action. We had a bad experience in a different vehicle so I'm probably overly concerned.

 




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