So I had an awful experience at my local kia dealership yesterday. Trying to sell me an S trim FWD with 500+ miles on it for 40k. Anyway one thing he said was that Kia is getting smart and he "heard through the grapevine that Kia was raising their price on the base model to 38 or 39k." because the Sorento is more expensive than the Telluride. He also told me it would take 6-9 months to get one ordered if I wanted to get it for MSRP anywhere in the country *eye roll*