Telluride Quirks

[TellurideSX]

I drove both prior to purchasing the SX and the EX rides better in my opinion.

 

[Jasondorin]

Taller sidewalls not only means that they will absorb potholes better, but they also ride much smoother on rough roads.

That's why all the offroaders you see have large meaty tires with lots and lots of sidewall for cushioning purposes.

Thanks...now I get it...appreciate the tutorial

 

[13_FST]

Thanks...now I get it...appreciate the tutorial

Don't think that I'm hating on 20" wheel because I'm not. 20" rims look fantastic.

But, 18" are more practical and this vehicle is all about practicality and not flashy.

 

[Karam.31]

Don't think that I'm hating on 20" wheel because I'm not. 20" rims look fantastic.

But, 18" are more practical and this vehicle is all about practicality and not flashy.

It's pretty flashy too! Which is a good thing

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[Robert]

My in-laws will sit there and let the chime ring for 40+ times on their X5. I don't know how they stand it. Always yell at them to just buckle up.

Why not just put on the seatbelts

 

[SC300ES]

Why not just put on the seatbelts

He feels uncomfortable. She believes she would have been dead many years ago if she had her seat belt on when her car got t-boned- she was thrown to the other side and didn't get crushed. Some crazy belief she has dating back many years.

 

[DaveA]

Anyone else have an issue with the weather app thing in the dash? Mine just refuses to resolve...constantly just “loading”...

Super annoying. Even my dealer has no idea

Apparently America needs MORE HD radio channels, or They need to get the weather from a different source. Wish android auto would do that.

 

[Buckeye-TRide]

I know this may be naive...but meaning those will absorb potholes better?

You’re essentially riding on more air and the sidewall provides for shock absorption. Bigger rims require the sidewall on the tire to be smaller but also harder to compensate.

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[Buckeye-TRide]

He feels uncomfortable. She believes she would have been dead many years ago if she had her seat belt on when her car got t-boned- she was thrown to the other side and didn't get crushed. Some crazy belief she has dating back many years.

That’s kinda like saying you once fell down a flight of stairs while naked and then refusing to ever be nude again and taking showers in a pair of cut off jeans....

 

[ucinn]

That’s kinda like saying you once fell down a flight of stairs while naked and then refusing to ever be nude again and taking showers in a pair of cut off jeans....

Doesn't everybody do this?

 

[skytanker2003]

We've had our EX a couple weeks now and absolutely love it. I'm thinking about getting one of my own eventually. Nothing beats the features vs price (except maybe the Palisade or VW Atlas, which don't look as good as the Telluride IMO). Anyway, quirky things I've noticed so far:

• Window Lock and Child Door Lock button should be separate buttons (my kids haven't learned it isn't appropriate to roll the window going 65 but they know how to safely open the door!)
• Haven't found a way to disable the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) feature. I know it's got it's own battery for that system, but I'm worried about wear and tear on components over time and it's weird to have a half second delay from letting off brake to pressing gas.
• Smart Lift Gate opening criteria. I get out of the car, get the baby out of the back seat, then occasionally have bags to get out of the rear. Would be nice to have the lift gate operational criteria adjusted for this, instead of just returning to the vehicle after a shopping trip or something. I know I can just open the hatch before getting out or press the button on the back once I get there, but it would be nice to have the feature work when you're there.
• Weather feature doesn't work. This could be because we were hit with a hurricane last year and radio stations haven't gotten all their HD stuff back online, as I'm noticing I'm not picking up HD Radio either, but I don't remember picking up the HD features in other cities either (after reviewing the HD radio station list provided elsewhere in these forums). No big deal, but kind of like to have a feature if it's offered.
• Rear Climate Control on at startup. I'm still reading up on whether having the front on Auto means the back is sync'd, but I seem to have to manually turn on the rear controls to get good air flow to the back. If anyone has a tip for that, lemme know!
• Adaptive Cruise Control doesn't always pick up traffic stopped at a light. I've been testing the cruise control and sensor functions trying to figure out where/when certain things engage and the one that I've found surprising is that I can come up to a red light with cars stopped ahead but the car seems to want to plow on through. I'm talking 20-40mph so I obviously leave enough room to brake on my own, but I worry that the algorithm either isn't there or is not conservative enough. Not plannig on going so far as checking the emergency braking feature so I'm hoping I'm just more conservative than the algorithm is.

In the grand scheme, these are little things and definitely not a big deal considering what we paid and how satisfied we are overall!

-Ryan

 

[TellurideNY]

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• Adaptive Cruise Control doesn't always pick up traffic stopped at a light. I've been testing the cruise control and sensor functions trying to figure out where/when certain things engage and the one that I've found surprising is that I can come up to a red light with cars stopped ahead but the car seems to want to plow on through. I'm talking 20-40mph so I obviously leave enough room to brake on my own, but I worry that the algorithm either isn't there or is not conservative enough. Not plannig on going so far as checking the emergency braking feature so I'm hoping I'm just more conservative than the algorithm is.

Your going to find that most systems with adaptive cruise control behave this way and more so the faster your going. They are actually programmed to ignore their sensors in situations like these because you don't want false positives leading to cars slamming on their brakes, especially on the highway. A common cause of these false positives are overpasses. If the car is not already tracking a car while approaching a red light I would never expect it to stop.

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[Karam.31]

Idle stop and go can be turned off by pressing the button near the shifter / AWD knob. The button has an A on it with a circle around it. Needs to be turned off every time you start the car tho.

 

[John]

• Adaptive Cruise Control doesn't always pick up traffic stopped at a light. I've been testing the cruise control and sensor functions trying to figure out where/when certain things engage and the one that I've found surprising is that I can come up to a red light with cars stopped ahead but the car seems to want to plow on through. I'm talking 20-40mph so I obviously leave enough room to brake on my own, but I worry that the algorithm either isn't there or is not conservative enough. Not plannig on going so far as checking the emergency braking feature so I'm hoping I'm just more conservative than the algorithm is.

-Ryan
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I am glad that you are experimenting with the Adaptive or Smart Cruise Control(SCC). In the settings for the SCC there are three options to chose from which determine how quick you want the system to react. It's been about 3.5 months since I set my SCC however I am relatively certain chosing the "faster" option, which sounds counter intuitive but the "auto breaking" begins sooner so you don't get that "is it ever going to slow down felling" when approaching an intersection with a car in front of you. I think if you try the three SCC options along with the "car lengths" button on the steering wheel you will find the right combo that will make using the SCC much more relaxing.

I do have the AWD SX with Prestige Package, however I believe the SCC options are the same on all the models but wanted to clarify in case there not.

 

[jazzyone]

I am glad that you are experimenting with the Adaptive or Smart Cruise Control(SCC). In the settings for the SCC there are three options to chose from which determine how quick you want the system to react. It's been about 3.5 months since I set my SCC however I am relatively certain chosing the "faster" option, which sounds counter intuitive but the "auto breaking" begins sooner so you don't get that "is it ever going to slow down felling" when approaching an intersection with a car in front of you. I think if you try the three SCC options along with the "car lengths" button on the steering wheel you will find the right combo that will make using the SCC much more relaxing.

I do have the AWD SX with Prestige Package, however I believe the SCC options are the same on all the models but wanted to clarify in case there not.

I'm going to have to check this setting. I too think the SCC brakes way too late for my taste. Based on what you said, I must have set it as "SLOW"

EDIT: So, my setting was on NORMAL. I can't image how SLOW would react if I don't like NORMAL! I set it to FAST, lets see if that makes a difference.

 

[jazzyone]

• Smart Lift Gate opening criteria. I get out of the car, get the baby out of the back seat, then occasionally have bags to get out of the rear. Would be nice to have the lift gate operational criteria adjusted for this, instead of just returning to the vehicle after a shopping trip or something. I know I can just open the hatch before getting out or press the button on the back once I get there, but it would be nice to have the feature work when you're there.

I don't understand this....Are you saying that the Smart Lift Proximity Sensor is not working? That's when you stand behind the rear hatch for a couple of seconds the lift gate automatically opens. I believe this feature is disabled by default. You have to enable it.

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[skytanker2003]

Your going to find that most systems with adaptive cruise control behave this way and more so the faster your going. They are actually programmed to ignore their sensors in situations like these because you don't want false positives leading to cars slamming on their brakes, especially on the highway. A common cause of these false positives are overpasses. If the car is not already tracking a car while approaching a red light I would never expect it to stop.

Makes sense. False positives are a good point. My curiousity comes in when a car changes to a turn lane in front of me, I will occasionally get a collision alert warning because I'm accelerating towards them, knowing they will be clear, but the same warning doesn't apply coming up to stopped traffic. I suspect there may be something to do with the first situation already sensing a vehicle ahead vs. coming up to stopped vehicles not previously sensed/following via SCC, but your false positive algorithm could apply, too.

 

[skytanker2003]

Idle stop and go can be turned off by pressing the button near the shifter / AWD knob. The button has an A on it with a circle around it. Needs to be turned off every time you start the car tho.

Yes, I found that feature, but am looking for a way to make it permanent. It appears I'm not the only one. Maybe a future software update will provide that functionality. Hoping for the same with the cruise control. I use it frequently enough, I'd like it to remember the last position it was in versus turning it on every start up.

 

[skytanker2003]

I don't understand this....Are you saying that the Smart Lift Proximity Sensor is not working? That's when you stand behind the rear hatch for a couple of seconds the lift gate automatically opens. I believe this feature is disabled by default. You have to enable it.

I've enabled it. Kia programmed specific criteria that prevent it from opening though. So, if I get my kid out of the back, close the door, by the time I get to the rear, its been maybe 3 seconds so the liftgate criteria haven't been met. If my other kids are still getting out on the other side, criteria also hasn't been met because their door is still open. The intent of the smart liftgate implying the use to only be the driver returning from shopping with hands full and going to the liftgate before anywhere else. Just a quirk I'm sure is part of any other manufacturers mart liftgate. From the owners manual:

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Using the smart power liftgate
The liftgate can be opened with no-touch activation when all of the below conditions have been satisfied.
-- 15 seconds have passed after all doors have been closed and locked.
-- The smart key is positioned within the detecting area for more than 3 seconds.

NOTICE
䳜The Smart Power Liftgate does not operate when:
-- The smart key is detected within 15 seconds after the doors are closed and locked, and is continuously detected.
-- The smart key is detected within 15 seconds after the doors are closed and locked, and within 60 in (1.5 m) from the front door handles. (for vehicles equipped with Welcome Light)
-- A door is not locked or closed.
-- The smart key is in the vehicle.
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[jazzyone]

I've enabled it. Kia programmed specific criteria that prevent it from opening though. So, if I get my kid out of the back, close the door, by the time I get to the rear, its been maybe 3 seconds so the liftgate criteria haven't been met. If my other kids are still getting out on the other side, criteria also hasn't been met because their door is still open. The intent of the smart liftgate implying the use to only be the driver returning from shopping with hands full and going to the liftgate before anywhere else. Just a quirk I'm sure is part of any other manufacturers mart liftgate. From the owners manual:

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Using the smart power liftgate
The liftgate can be opened with no-touch activation when all of the below conditions have been satisfied.
-- 15 seconds have passed after all doors have been closed and locked.
-- The smart key is positioned within the detecting area for more than 3 seconds.

NOTICE
䳜The Smart Power Liftgate does not operate when:
-- The smart key is detected within 15 seconds after the doors are closed and locked, and is continuously detected.
-- The smart key is detected within 15 seconds after the doors are closed and locked, and within 60 in (1.5 m) from the front door handles. (for vehicles equipped with Welcome Light)
-- A door is not locked or closed.
-- The smart key is in the vehicle.
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Oh, IC.... "The intent of the smart liftgate implying the use to only be the driver returning from shopping with hands full and going to the liftgate before anywhere else" ...agreed that's what it seems to be designed for.

I think the logic was designed that way to prevent unintended opening of the hatch and prevent damage. Kinda like "idiot proofing" (Not calling you an idiot).

Imagine this scenario, You just parked in a garage to go to a restaurant with the family. You are super hungry, loosing your mind getting your kids unbuckled and out because one is shouting in your ear while the other is crying like crazy and your spouse just minding his/her own business. At this pint you are HANGRY!

While not paying attention to the surrounding you go to the back to get the stroller out, with the crying baby in one arm, a diaper bag in the other and your other child tugging at your shirt saying something you can't understand. Your good for nothing spouse is still nowhere to be found. Before you know it or even had a chance to check anything, the hatch opens automatically and crashes into the lower portion of the concrete beam in the garage. As a result, your hatch is dented, scratched up and the rear is window blown out. You scream #@$$%@!@! $%%### %$$#!!!!!!!!!................$2,500 in damage.

Pretty melodramatic....sorry couldn't resist. My theory is that the engineers at KIA thought of many scenarios like this and decided that if you can "manually" open the lift gate safely by pushing a button upon arrival, then it would be relatively safe to have the lift gate automatically open when you return to your Telluride.