The 2023 Telluride Towing Saga - Adding some data and pictures, and it's not great news

[G-300929]

My local dealer says that Kia plans to ship them hitch assembly & wiring harness to resolve this issue in August….hopefully he is accurate.

that would be awesome!

 

[tyger23]

My local dealer says that Kia plans to ship them hitch assembly & wiring harness to resolve this issue in August….hopefully he is accurate.

AUGUST??????

I've owned my car since November. Boating season in mid/south texas is year round. Yeah, I'm pi$$ed if this is true.

 

[dtburgh]

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[dtburgh]

New cover piece same vetch.View attachment 29856

is the mount for the plug part of the hitch? if so, what hitch/part # is that?? thanks

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[surferd15]

AUGUST??????

I've owned my car since November. Boating season in mid/south texas is year round. Yeah, I'm pi$$ed if this is true.

Yup I'm in South Florida! Year round boating so I did what I had to do. I towed last night. If you back up I think over 5 mph? Or could of been my angle the car auto braked (thinking I was hitting the boat). I wish Kia would disable that when tow mode is on. But anyway you can shut it off in the settings but need to do it everytime. However when I got home backed in my driveway it did not activate.

 

[tyger23]

Yup I'm in South Florida! Year round boating so I did what I had to do. I towed last night. If you back up I think over 5 mph? Or could of been my angle the car auto braked (thinking I was hitting the boat). I wish Kia would disable that when tow mode is on. But anyway you can shut it off in the settings but need to do it everytime. However when I got home backed in my driveway it did not activate.

Yeah - the auto braking thing is annoying and scary the first time it kicks on and you didn't expect it.

I suffer the same issue with just my bike rack attached. Oddly enough - my 22 didn't auto brake with the bike rack on. I was hoping "tow mode" would disable this "feature", but I guess not. That's not the end of the world though.

 

[dtburgh]

Yup I'm in South Florida! Year round boating so I did what I had to do. I towed last night. If you back up I think over 5 mph? Or could of been my angle the car auto braked (thinking I was hitting the boat). I wish Kia would disable that when tow mode is on. But anyway you can shut it off in the settings but need to do it everytime. However when I got home backed in my driveway it did not activate.

you have to do this every time you tow? you cant just switch it off and then turn it back on later??

 

[tyger23]

you have to do this every time you tow? you cant just switch it off and then turn it back on later??

If you haven't experienced it yet - it's not a huge deal. When you start to back up as something is attached to the hitch (or if someone/something is behind the car), the car will automatically brake and warn you of the "danger". Once the car has stopped, you can override this by simply pressing on and releasing the brake. It's not a big deal, just a nuisance when towing. It's an awesome feature to have otherwise.

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[hlipham]

I contacted a couple of local places about installing a harness on my 23 Telluride and two of the places said they would not do it because of concerns about messing up the computer. The only place that would do it is the U-Haul place.

For anyone who has spliced into the existing wiring to add a harness, have you had any issues? Is the concern about messing up the computer that these two shops voiced legitimate?

I might have the U-Haul shop do it if there's little concern for problems, but I don't want to create any problems either. I saw the recent post about an August date for a harness release and I'd rather not wait that long if I don't have to.

 

[G-88629]

Hi all! Former 2022 and and now new 2023 SX-P owner here! I wanted to add some hard data to the 2023 Towing Hitch saga. I only know this because my 2022 was totaled by an F150 about 2 weeks ago, and I managed to jump on a 2023 SX-P X-Pro. Here's what I can add for you:

1. It appears by all accounts that the 2022 aftermarket tow hitch bar itself will fit. Just this week, E-trailer has changed the '23 Telly status to reflect that the Draw-Tite/Reece/Curt tow bar (hitch) made by Horizon Global will fit the '23. This can be confirmed on E-trailer's website, along with Reece, and Draw-Tite. I will not make any personal representations as I don't own this hitch (or any right now). This hitch is sold under Draw-Tite part number 76420, Reece part number 84420, and Curt part number CQT76420.

Now - this does NOT mean that the factory 2022 hitch will be compatible with the 2023 bumper cover. It only means that it should fit. Here are some pictures of the mounting places of my '23 for you to compare to.

Left Side mounting points of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28458

Right side mounting points of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28460

2. It appears that the 2022 wiring harness will most definitely NOT fit the 2023, at least not on the SX-P X-Pro. Here are some pictures comparing the 2022 harness to my 2023 connectors. The 2020-2022 Tellurides had a dedicated connector to plug in the towing harness, whereas the 2023 does NOT have the same connector. In fact, it looks like the towing harness for 2023 will need a pass-through style design.

Picture from e-trailer video showing where to plug in the 2022 style harness (note two connectors):
View attachment 28462

2020-2022 Wiring Harness Picture (note the style of the female harness circled):
View attachment 28463

Picture from my 2023 SX-P X-Pro harness location (note there is only 1 connector now):
View attachment 28464

Pictures of the mating sides of the 2023 connector:
(Side leading towards the rear taillights, etc.):
View attachment 28465

(Side leading to the front of car):
View attachment 28466

3. I can guarantee that the 2022 tow cover will NOT fit the 2023 SX-P X-Pro. The shape is completely different.
Picture of the 2020-2022 rear bumper where the tow cover would reside:
View attachment 28467

Picture of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28468

Sadly, it seems we are going to need to go full aftermarket, or wait until the saga completes from Kia and we know how to order the factory parts.

Thanks!
Tyger23

I got a letter from Kia America that says any aftermarket wiring harness will void the warranty. It's because they haven't found the solution to the problem yet.

 

[G-571192]

AUGUST??????

I've owned my car since November. Boating season in mid/south texas is year round. Yeah, I'm pi$$ed if this is true.

same here, super pissed off to there point I've started to look at other vehicles with a tow hitch installed. I sat in the new Honda Pilot yesterday and my god is that thing ever built cheap, everything inside is cheap plastic...I left saying to myself there's ZERO chance I would trade my Telluride for one...The next vehicle I'm going to look at is the Mazda CX90....

 

[dtburgh]

I contacted a couple of local places about installing a harness on my 23 Telluride and two of the places said they would not do it because of concerns about messing up the computer. The only place that would do it is the U-Haul place.

For anyone who has spliced into the existing wiring to add a harness, have you had any issues? Is the concern about messing up the computer that these two shops voiced legitimate?

I might have the U-Haul shop do it if there's little concern for problems, but I don't want to create any problems either. I saw the recent post about an August date for a harness release and I'd rather not wait that long if I don't have to.

i almost pulled the trigger on a 2023 yesterday, but when i asked about aftermarket wiring possibly voiding the warranty, their service department said yes it could. if something happened and they traced it to the wiring harness it would be a problem. so kia really has screwed all owners, past, present and future.. im with you, im not willing to risk it and will hold off until they get this rectified. If they ever do! so lame

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[choosethejuice]

For anyone who has spliced into the existing wiring to add a harness, have you had any issues? Is the concern about messing up the computer that these two shops voiced legitimate?

Spliced (soldered) into the existing harness. No issues here. No concern about messing up the computer. Just use a taillight converter compatible with LED's.

If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you can use something like the Tekonsha 119251 converter, which doesn't require splicing into the harness.

 

[Sharkbait1218]

Just like others, I am very frustrated with the delays and getting no help from my dealer. Unlike others, I have zero knowledge when it comes to vehicle wiring. I will be pulling a trailer so need a 7 pin. Found one on Real Truck.
Will this work? Will it void my warranty?

 

[tyger23]

Just like others, I am very frustrated with the delays and getting no help from my dealer. Unlike others, I have zero knowledge when it comes to vehicle wiring. I will be pulling a trailer so need a 7 pin. Found one on Real Truck.
Will this work? Will it void my warranty?

NO. That product will only fit the 20-22 Telle's. It will NOT fit the 23's. Refer to the manufacturer's data:

Custom Wiring Connector, 7-Way RV Blade, Select Palisade, Santa Cruz, Telluride

Making memories doesn't start when you reach your destination; it starts at the very first mile of your journey. Wherever your road begins and wherever it takes you, Bring It® with the power of CURT. CURT custom wiring provides everything you need to connect your vehicle's electrical system to a...

www.curtmfg.com

 

[Techmerlin]

Had mine since Dec 15 expecting the hitch to arrive at the dealer about March. Called them and set up an install early March. Drove 3 hours to get it installed and a factory recall only to spend two hours there and find out that the hitch they thought would fit doesn’t. Hearing that AUGUST is the latest timeline…

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[Sharkbait1218]

Thanks for that! Just getting desperate!-sigh-

 

[Techmerlin]

Especially troubling because pleasure boating season here is at most 3 months

 

[dwb913]

Hi all! Former 2022 and and now new 2023 SX-P owner here! I wanted to add some hard data to the 2023 Towing Hitch saga. I only know this because my 2022 was totaled by an F150 about 2 weeks ago, and I managed to jump on a 2023 SX-P X-Pro. Here's what I can add for you:

1. It appears by all accounts that the 2022 aftermarket tow hitch bar itself will fit. Just this week, E-trailer has changed the '23 Telly status to reflect that the Draw-Tite/Reece/Curt tow bar (hitch) made by Horizon Global will fit the '23. This can be confirmed on E-trailer's website, along with Reece, and Draw-Tite. I will not make any personal representations as I don't own this hitch (or any right now). This hitch is sold under Draw-Tite part number 76420, Reece part number 84420, and Curt part number CQT76420.

Now - this does NOT mean that the factory 2022 hitch will be compatible with the 2023 bumper cover. It only means that it should fit. Here are some pictures of the mounting places of my '23 for you to compare to.

Left Side mounting points of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28458

Right side mounting points of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28460

2. It appears that the 2022 wiring harness will most definitely NOT fit the 2023, at least not on the SX-P X-Pro. Here are some pictures comparing the 2022 harness to my 2023 connectors. The 2020-2022 Tellurides had a dedicated connector to plug in the towing harness, whereas the 2023 does NOT have the same connector. In fact, it looks like the towing harness for 2023 will need a pass-through style design.

Picture from e-trailer video showing where to plug in the 2022 style harness (note two connectors):
View attachment 28462

2020-2022 Wiring Harness Picture (note the style of the female harness circled):
View attachment 28463

Picture from my 2023 SX-P X-Pro harness location (note there is only 1 connector now):
View attachment 28464

Pictures of the mating sides of the 2023 connector:
(Side leading towards the rear taillights, etc.):
View attachment 28465

(Side leading to the front of car):
View attachment 28466

3. I can guarantee that the 2022 tow cover will NOT fit the 2023 SX-P X-Pro. The shape is completely different.
Picture of the 2020-2022 rear bumper where the tow cover would reside:
View attachment 28467

Picture of the 2023 SX-P X-Pro:
View attachment 28468

Sadly, it seems we are going to need to go full aftermarket, or wait until the saga completes from Kia and we know how to order the factory parts.
The email I got from Kia said aftermarket hookups would void my warranty

Thanks!
Tyger23

 

[mcl821]

Do dealers stock the 22 (or 23) hitch? Was going to install myself but so busy with work and have some Home Depot runs coming next weekend. I can skip the lights for a few quick runs and hope I don’t pass any cops I’d rather have it installed then have to rent a truck.

In Eastern MA fwiw regarding dealer stock. Thanks!