Hyundai Palisade Ltd, Lincoln Corsair Reserve, Lincoln Nautilus Black Label, and Ram 1500 Limited.
1A. My first choice is probably the truck, with the Ramboxes and a tonneau it is just as functional for my needs as an SUV and the frost interior in the Ltd looks terrific. Nice big 12" infotainment screen. But there are a lot of reliability issues in their forum and Consumer Reports is down on that, too. Plus the size and turning radius issues can be a pain at times. Was worried about fitting in narrow lanes like in construction zones but it is only 4 inches wider than a Telluride. Ram had huge incentives in June, some were getting up to 25% off MSRP for Limiteds and Longhorns. $65K trucks for $49K. That's over but we'll see what they do in Sept and some are still getting 15-18% off MSRP. 2020's are already shipping to lots.
2. The
Palisade looks like a great bargain and the cream interior of the Limited is very nice (better than the Telluride, IMHO) but the giant grill is terrible. No need for a 3rd row so lots of space under the cargo cover. Should be reliable and has a long warranty. I'm not yet convinced on their paint quality (black or their blackish-blue) and may have to wait a few months if have to order (refuse to pay over MSRP less incentives.)
3. The Corsair looks terrific inside and out, but I haven't seen one in person yet, nor even pics of some of the interior color options. Trunk space may be too small. Don't know if they'll have incentives and will negotiate (not going to pay the $58K MSRP for something that small.) A bit concerned about Lincoln reliability, but they've been improving in initial quality.
4. The Nautilus with the Black Label cashmere interior looks really sharp (though maybe a little too over the top? Like I should wear a Caddyshack captain's hat while driving...) That console doesn't look so great, though, and the screen quality is meh (especially the surround view and backup camera.) Really like the grill redesign of the new Lincolns. MSRP on the Black Label seems overpriced, but we'll see how much they are willing to deal. One thing about Black Label is that it basically includes prepaid maintenance for the 1st 4 years/50K miles (and that's also the length of their bumper to bumper warranty, not that far off Kia and Hyundai). Together with 4 annual free detailing and anytime free car washes it prices out to about $3K+ of equivalent services (I plan on owning it for at least 5 years.) So that drops the MSRP price gap over the Reserve to about $5k. Worth it for the better looking interior. Also 0% financing for 60 months can save about $2K in interest. The Reserve is nice, but a bit plain inside. It looks more like something to drive to Luby's Cafeteria for the Early Bird Special (I read that as of a couple of years ago 85% of Lincoln MKX (the pre-redesign Nautilus) buyers were Baby Boomers or older.)
Zero interest in the long-term high-cost maintenance risk of Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Plus the reliability issues with many of the Europeans, and now Acura has become terrible. Lexus RX350 exterior is not the best look (2020 slightly better and they finally get a touchscreen, but hey, it's a chick car) and GX460 is years behind in tech. Infinity looks nice but still won't offer
Android Auto or
Apple Carplay in 2020, so easy to rule out. Ford Explorer's top trim interior still looks plain, certainly not worth the price. F150 even worse in both regards. Jeep has poor reliability, quickly gets overpriced, and still doesn't have surround view cameras in any trims? Cadillac is ugly, GM's unreliable.
1B. I'm excited to read that Telluride SX-P orders are open again. Am hoping it reduces the wait time for orders in a month or so. May be my first choice if I don't have to wait until next year when ordering in mid-Sept. Love the exterior, but some elements of the interior are just ok. But overall a great value. White exterior with light gray SX-P is the only option I'm looking for, so my hunch is the wait time could end up pushing me to the
Palisade, Lincolns, or Ram 1500. But it does feel great that after months of research and being very picky I still have options that I'd be completely happy with and know one of those will come through. It's a good time to be buying a vehicle.
Edit: Over the last few months I've visited close to 30 dealerships. The best were Lexus and (with 1 exception) Lincoln, but the worst, by far, were Kia (only 2 were ok). That may play into my decision.
Wow, I pretty much just wrote 'War and Peace'.