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I like the Telluride but what I really want is a vehicle the size of a Chevy Tahoe. Do you think Kia will ever bring something like that to market?
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Kia Mohave... google it
I think for the markets that don't get the Telluride they have the 2020 Mohave. Kia Mohave Masterpiece Concept Hints at Yet Another New SUV
Isn't the Mohave roughly the same size based off the old Borrego? I thought I saw that the new Mohave is only a little taller than the Tellruide but shorter and not as wide. It appears to be sold in markets that don't get the Telluride. I wonder when Kia will make an Electric KLTV for the consumer market! If they weren't thinking about it before, I'll be the Telluride's success will make them reconsider.
Please register with an account. But, no, I don't think Kia will bring a full size SUV to market for a long while. There may be one in development, but I suspect it is a decade or more off. Kia (and Hyundai) have placed a wise bet on mid-size SUVs with common platforms for crossovers. Not trucks.
Most - if not all - full size SUVs are based on truck platforms... for higher tow capacity and hauling capability. If you like the Tahoe, go get a 2021. They look sweet.
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Mohave is an analogue of telluride for Asia and Russia. they are very different, but kia positions the mhave that way. therefore telluride will not be available in Asia and Russia.
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I think what Stephen is saying is it’s a truck-based, body on frame SUV. And the benefit over the Tahoe is that it would fit in your garage. I don’t think it is available in the USA though. I think Kia’s old Borrego was on the same platform.
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It’s my understanding that the Mohave is actually an update to the Borrego. The Borrego has a truck based frame that didn’t do well in the US in part due to poor fuel economy but is still sold in other markets and even sold by the Kia Military division as the 4x4 Mohave. The new Mohave commercial version appears to be a facelift for the Borrego with still a truck based frame. The Mohave is slightly smaller than the Telluride and does not share the same frame as the Telluride.
The original Sorento was smaller than it is today but after the Borrego left the US market the Sorento got a little bigger. The Sorento is a crossover SUV as opposed to a truck based SUV. Now the Telluride frame is a modified Sorento frame so technically the Telluride is a large mid-sized crossover SUV.
I don’t have a crystal ball, but I think the path to a larger SUV starts with a truck bed variant of the Telluride (rumored for Australia in the next couple years) as well as Hyundai’s Alabama built 2021 Santa Cruz. That seems like the a good place to start testing the US Market for a crossover based truck. Then move into a large truck and use that as the basis for a large full-size SUV.
Combine Kia’s Military Vehicle background with Hyundai’s Construction Vehicle background, then add a partnership with Canoo to the mix for a high torque electric motor could make for a pretty large size electric vehicle that might might make for an accelerated run at the US large truck and SUV market sooner than people think. Consider that Toyota entered NASCAR and off road truck racing, (TRD started in 1979) in large part to build a high performance racing division to bolster Lexus and their truck lineup for the US market. When it comes to Kia and Hyundai, they already have backgrounds in heavy equipment and trucks, it’s just a matter of timing and where to enter. Entering the truck market in the small truck range is tough because they would have to deal with the chicken tax of 1963 so they would have to fully commit to production in the US to avoid a 25% tax. So starting with a crossover then moving to large is more reasonable unless the chicken tax is repealed.
The margin on trucks and SUVs is so much higher, so if Kia can provide value at a reasonable price some typical die hard Ford and Chevy buyers might take notice. Most of the fuel efficiency (CAFE) laws from the 1970s were loosened for medium and heavy duty trucks but still apply for light duty at least until 2025. While the current administration froze some of the restrictions and they might expire all together by 2025, they aren't repealed so the next administration could make some changes that affect buying options for vehicle shopping in the US for the next decade. So I predict we will see midsized trucks by 2025 and large trucks shortly after followed by large SUVs with some pretty heavy EV technology to assist with towing and hauling. If you don't think EV technology is there yet look up electric supercars and all electric dump trucks that use regenerative braking. There's only so much torque you can get out of an internal combustion technology that dates back to the late 1800s. With Electric motors you have way more upside for heavy equipment. I also think it’s in our best interest for both sides of climate change and oil production to finally admit that hybrids were a bandaid to comply with laws while keeping lobbyists on both sides happy but really didn’t help a US buyer’s wallet nor the environment. The real answer is to encourage and invest in EVs to lower our dependency on foreign oil and reduce overall carbon footprint.
I think Ford’s commitment to building fewer cars and more trucks and SUVs is just a sign that there is a bigger opportunity for Kia. At a time when US owned companies are regrouping some we are seeing foreign owned auto makers expanding manufacturing in the US.
Lebron James liked his K900 enough in 2014 that he asked Kia for a sponsorship deal. Imagine if a few country singers started singing about their Kia truck. How quickly sales would take off?
The original Sorento was smaller than it is today but after the Borrego left the US market the Sorento got a little bigger. The Sorento is a crossover SUV as opposed to a truck based SUV. Now the Telluride frame is a modified Sorento frame so technically the Telluride is a large mid-sized crossover SUV.
I don’t have a crystal ball, but I think the path to a larger SUV starts with a truck bed variant of the Telluride (rumored for Australia in the next couple years) as well as Hyundai’s Alabama built 2021 Santa Cruz. That seems like the a good place to start testing the US Market for a crossover based truck. Then move into a large truck and use that as the basis for a large full-size SUV.
Combine Kia’s Military Vehicle background with Hyundai’s Construction Vehicle background, then add a partnership with Canoo to the mix for a high torque electric motor could make for a pretty large size electric vehicle that might might make for an accelerated run at the US large truck and SUV market sooner than people think. Consider that Toyota entered NASCAR and off road truck racing, (TRD started in 1979) in large part to build a high performance racing division to bolster Lexus and their truck lineup for the US market. When it comes to Kia and Hyundai, they already have backgrounds in heavy equipment and trucks, it’s just a matter of timing and where to enter. Entering the truck market in the small truck range is tough because they would have to deal with the chicken tax of 1963 so they would have to fully commit to production in the US to avoid a 25% tax. So starting with a crossover then moving to large is more reasonable unless the chicken tax is repealed.
The margin on trucks and SUVs is so much higher, so if Kia can provide value at a reasonable price some typical die hard Ford and Chevy buyers might take notice. Most of the fuel efficiency (CAFE) laws from the 1970s were loosened for medium and heavy duty trucks but still apply for light duty at least until 2025. While the current administration froze some of the restrictions and they might expire all together by 2025, they aren't repealed so the next administration could make some changes that affect buying options for vehicle shopping in the US for the next decade. So I predict we will see midsized trucks by 2025 and large trucks shortly after followed by large SUVs with some pretty heavy EV technology to assist with towing and hauling. If you don't think EV technology is there yet look up electric supercars and all electric dump trucks that use regenerative braking. There's only so much torque you can get out of an internal combustion technology that dates back to the late 1800s. With Electric motors you have way more upside for heavy equipment. I also think it’s in our best interest for both sides of climate change and oil production to finally admit that hybrids were a bandaid to comply with laws while keeping lobbyists on both sides happy but really didn’t help a US buyer’s wallet nor the environment. The real answer is to encourage and invest in EVs to lower our dependency on foreign oil and reduce overall carbon footprint.
I think Ford’s commitment to building fewer cars and more trucks and SUVs is just a sign that there is a bigger opportunity for Kia. At a time when US owned companies are regrouping some we are seeing foreign owned auto makers expanding manufacturing in the US.
Lebron James liked his K900 enough in 2014 that he asked Kia for a sponsorship deal. Imagine if a few country singers started singing about their Kia truck. How quickly sales would take off?
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interior wise the tahoe barely bigger and i mean barely. heck the traverese is actually BIGGER than the tahoe in the inside.
do you me a body on frame design? V8? probably not as they dont have the demand for that market.
" The Tahoe comes with 15.3 cubic feet of cargo space behind its third row, 51.7 cubic feet behind the second row, and 94.7 cubic feet with both rows folded down. These figures are below average compared to large SUV class rivals. "
" The 2020 Kia Telluride has 21 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row, 46 cubic feet behind the second row, and a maximum of 87 cubic feet with both rows folded down. "
The Traverse provides 23 cubic feet of cargo room behind the rearmost row, 57.8 cubic feet with the third-row seats folded, and 98.2 cubic feet with the second and third rows folded
do you me a body on frame design? V8? probably not as they dont have the demand for that market.
" The Tahoe comes with 15.3 cubic feet of cargo space behind its third row, 51.7 cubic feet behind the second row, and 94.7 cubic feet with both rows folded down. These figures are below average compared to large SUV class rivals. "
" The 2020 Kia Telluride has 21 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row, 46 cubic feet behind the second row, and a maximum of 87 cubic feet with both rows folded down. "
The Traverse provides 23 cubic feet of cargo room behind the rearmost row, 57.8 cubic feet with the third-row seats folded, and 98.2 cubic feet with the second and third rows folded
Are you comparing the 2020 Tahoe specs? The 2021 Tahoe is bigger now and seats up to 9 passengers. I think the new numbers are 25.5 cf, 72.6 cf and 122.9 cf.
Doubt that Kia would ever develop a vehicle that big since the market is pretty much limited to the US and maybe the Middle East.
The BoF pick-up that Kia is developing is HiLux sized, so an SUV on that platform would be a midsize (= "large" for the rest of the world) like the Toyota Fortuner.
The Mohave is on a platform that has since been replaced twice, and it has less interior space than the Telluride.
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I know the perfect vehicle for you...a Chevy Tahoe!
Reliability is not stellar and price is a bit much for what it is.
