Telluride vs Palisade

[zhelder]

After taking the Telluride for a test drive a couple of days ago, I’m convinced that either it or its fraternal twin the Palisade is going to be my next car. We have a few months to wait before the Palisade is released, but I thought it would be fun to talk about what is going to set the two cars apart. I’m torn... I prefer the Telluride exterior, but prefer the Palisade interior. We already know the Palisade is going to have some options available that the Telluride won’t (full digital gauge cluster, push button transmission,12 speaker Infinity premium sound, power folding 3rd row). However when I talked about the two cars with the Kia salesperson, the other day, he told me he didn’t think there would be much of a price difference between the two cars. A few articles have also mention that Kia is going for “younger and sportier” customers with the Telluride, while Hyundai is goung for a bit more conservative, middle-aged, family-oriented group of customers.

This got me thinking... is there really less of a difference between the two cars than it appears? Does the Kia have any special features that the Palisade won’t have? I was thinking a fully loaded Palisade might cost about $2,000 more than an all-in Telluride SX Prestige AWD, but maybe the Telluride has some hidden exclusive goodies that I’m overlooking? We already know the Telluride is a whisker wider and taller than the Palisade, but it’s gonna take more than that to sway me from an all-digital gauge cluster and a killer audio system.

Is the Palisade truly going to be the more upscale vehicle or are the Telluride and Palisade really comparable in terms of luxury? Is pricing going to be comparable or is the Palisade going to cost significantly more? Your thoughts and advice are appreciated.

Dang, I love this car!

 

[CAsuKiHy]

Definitely will wait for Palisade, to see what they offer. Hopefully 8 seats for top trim, if I’m buying a new car I want to have it all because I intend to keep it for more than 5-6 years.

I was not liking the front at first, but now I don’t mind. Telluride is definitely better look for me, I like it when is simple and square, but then Palisade has better interior.

I don’t like press button gear shift, I feel like I’ll break it or kids will sit ther and push something. By the time I put one in the seat the other is roaming in the car.

I hope it doesn’t come with crome, I hate those shiny finishes.

From my understanding they are two very similar cars, in regards of engine and all that moving stuff.
Hopefully AWD is preforming good like people say Sorento/Kia is just fine.

 

[mrmac]

Definitely will wait for Palisade, to see what they offer. Hopefully 8 seats for top trim, if I’m buying a new car I want to have it all because I intend to keep it for more than 5-6 years.

I was not liking the front at first, but now I don’t mind. Telluride is definitely better look for me, I like it when is simple and square, but then Palisade has better interior.

I don’t like press button gear shift, I feel like I’ll break it or kids will sit ther and push something. By the time I put one in the seat the other is roaming in the car.

I hope it doesn’t come with crome, I hate those shiny finishes.

From my understanding they are two very similar cars, in regards of engine and all that moving stuff.
Hopefully AWD is preforming good like people say Sorento/Kia is just fine.

I bet there is zero chance the Hyundai Pailsade will have 8 person seating in the top version. Just like the Telluride, it would be a PITA to get to and from the fully functional third row seats for adults.

 

[astranger]

After taking the Telluride for a test drive a couple of days ago, I’m convinced that either it or its fraternal twin the Palisade is going to be my next car. We have a few months to wait before the Palisade is released, but I thought it would be fun to talk about what is going to set the two cars apart. I’m torn... I prefer the Telluride exterior, but prefer the Palisade interior. We already know the Palisade is going to have some options available that the Telluride won’t (full digital gauge cluster, push button transmission,12 speaker Infinity premium sound, power folding 3rd row). However when I talked about the two cars with the Kia salesperson, the other day, he told me he didn’t think there would be much of a price difference between the two cars. A few articles have also mention that Kia is going for “younger and sportier” customers with the Telluride, while Hyundai is goung for a bit more conservative, middle-aged, family-oriented group of customers.

This got me thinking... is there really less of a difference between the two cars than it appears? Does the Kia have any special features that the Palisade won’t have? I was thinking a fully loaded Palisade might cost about $2,000 more than an all-in Telluride SX Prestige AWD, but maybe the Telluride has some hidden exclusive goodies that I’m overlooking? We already know the Telluride is a whisker wider and taller than the Palisade, but it’s gonna take more than that to sway me from an all-digital gauge cluster and a killer audio system.

Is the Palisade truly going to be the more upscale vehicle or are the Telluride and Palisade really comparable in terms of luxury? Is pricing going to be comparable or is the Palisade going to cost significantly more? Your thoughts and advice are appreciated.

Dang, I love this car!

I believe Palisade also has the electric folding 3rd row seat that Telluride doesn't seem to have on any trim.

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[zhelder]

Definitely will wait for Palisade, to see what they offer. Hopefully 8 seats for top trim, if I’m buying a new car I want to have it all because I intend to keep it for more than 5-6 years.

I was not liking the front at first, but now I don’t mind. Telluride is definitely better look for me, I like it when is simple and square, but then Palisade has better interior.

I don’t like press button gear shift, I feel like I’ll break it or kids will sit ther and push something. By the time I put one in the seat the other is roaming in the car.

I hope it doesn’t come with crome, I hate those shiny finishes.

From my understanding they are two very similar cars, in regards of engine and all that moving stuff.
Hopefully AWD is preforming good like people say Sorento/Kia is just fine.

The giant C-Pillar throws me off a bit on the Palisade. It’s still a good looking car, but that one thing keeps it from beating the Telluride in looks.

And I’m the same way about going “all in” because I’m planning to own the car at least a decade. Plus, I love tech toys.

I doubt they’ll offer a bench in the top trim. Captain’s chairs seem to be the classier option these days.

 

[CAsuKiHy]

Which I really don’t get, I’m not buying car to drive bunch of dudes around, I need it because of the kids, even when you use 3rd row it would be couple of times a year and you won’t put 3 adults there. When really needed car seats can go in 3rd and then you can fit 3 adults in 2nd. If I’m only getting 7 seats I can only put 2 adults in second row and all 3 kids in the back. And then when I don’t need 3rd row I always have to put one child in 3rd which would be pain.

I wish we could be in the 21st century and order it little more customized, there is Tesla going that way. Soon enough everyone will sworch and we won’t need sales people and negotiations it will be prices and ordered online, like everything nowadays.

 

[zhelder]

Which I really don’t get, I’m not buying car to drive bunch of dudes around, I need it because of the kids, even when you use 3rd row it would be couple of times a year and you won’t put 3 adults there. When really needed car seats can go in 3rd and then you can fit 3 adults in 2nd. If I’m only getting 7 seats I can only put 2 adults in second row and all 3 kids in the back. And then when I don’t need 3rd row I always have to put one child in 3rd which would be pain.

I wish we could be in the 21st century and order it little more customized, there is Tesla going that way. Soon enough everyone will sworch and we won’t need sales people and negotiations it will be prices and ordered online, like everything nowadays.

I understand your perspective, and perhaps they should offer a bench choice in the top trims. While full customization is nice, it also often leads to confusion in the buying process and overall higher prices.

That’s one of the reasons I went Honda over Toyota for my past two cars. Toyota seems to gradually be shifting to a “Here’s what you get at each trim level” system like Honda, but 15 years ago a lot of features were options on Toyota’s, even on the highest trims. Meanwhile, the only option for my EX-L Accord was the navigation system. Everything else was included with the trim. I got the Accord for much less than a comparable Camry.

Ever wonder why the luxury brands have so many options? It’s so that $55,000 BMW X5 turns into a $75,000 one.

Even though it has its disadvantages, I prefer the simplicity and cost savings of the “Here’s what you get at each trim level” model. Kiundai got this one right.

 

[Dandy]

As noted in other posts, I am watching this segment close and have noticed the Telluride and Palisade. Here is my thoughts, I originally was leaning toward the Hyundai product, but the KIA is looking good. The following is all my opinion based on photos, articles and videos (not a lot else to work with)

• Both same drive train: No points to either.
• Warranty - Same: No points to either
• Dealership: Locally our Hyundai dealership has a better reputation - have not experienced either 1st hand
• Exterior Styling is personal preference, won't even comment (much)
  • I do like the headlights being lower on the Palisade, not from appearance but from functionality. With the new, bright LEDs, I feel having them lower is safer for oncoming traffic
• Boxier Style of the Telluride should make for more usable cargo space in the Telluride: +1 Telluride
  • I believe it has been stated that the KIA has more room behind the 3rd row vs. the Hyundai.
• Cup Holder/Wireless Charger: For me the cover on the cup holder area is a waste, I almost always have a beverage with me. In addition, the Hyundai has the wireless charger in the same compartment as the beverage holders. Liquid + expensive phone...not good. +1 Telluride
• I believe the Palisade has a more plush looking interior: +1 Palisade (again personal preference)
  • I however do not think that the center console integrates well into the dash. It seems to be butted up to the dash and not actually flowing into it.
  • I also don't like the silver door switches and insert panels on the doors of the Palisade, it looks like something that was done 10-15 years ago.
• I like the looks of the screen integrated into the dash instead of "added" to it: +1 Palisade
• Conventional Shift Lever, sometimes it makes for a nice place to rest you hand: +1 Telluride
• Grab Handles in center console, I don't like the look: -1 Telluride
• Unsure about the HVAC controls facing up on the Palisade, have to wait to see
• Blind Spot Camera: Palisade application with the digital cluster having it display on the appropriate side instead of the center of the screen: +1 Palisade
• Power 3rd Row Recline and Fold Down: +1 Palisade
• 2nd Row Cupholders - the Palisade only have them in the door (with captain seats). The Telluride also has them in the back of the front console: +1 Telluride

The above are the things that I noticed to be the most difference between them as I have been researching.

I have been unable to tell if either of them have auto dimming exterior mirrors. My wife has this on her car, it is so wonderful.

Overall, although the Hyundai appears to be more luxurious, the KIA seems to be laid out much more functionally. For vehicles, I will generally take function over form.

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[Sal Collaziano]

Overall, although the Hyundai appears to be more luxurious

Very surprising, considering how you'd think Hyundai needs to tone down the luxury at least a little bit for Genesis...

 

[ucinn]

Luxurious is another opinionated feature, what one person finds more luxurious, another person might find tacky or gimmicky. I don't use luxurious, but after looking at pictures of both interiors, I find the Tellurides more pleasing to the eye and I think what does it for me is the grab handles, regular shifter, and less bulk in the center console. I like the layout of the Telluride's better. Nobody is right or wrong in this case as everyone has different tastes and thus why they make cars differently.

 

[zhelder]

Very surprising, considering how you'd think Hyundai needs to tone down the luxury at least a little bit for Genesis...

They’ll have plenty of stuff they can add to the Genesis SUV:

• RWD platform (for the hardcore drivers)
• Twin Turbo V6 with HP in the mid-300s, maybe even a V8
• A “super premium” audio system (14+ speakers, perhaps dual subs)
• Massaging seats (Would be nice in the Telluride/Palisade, but I certainly can live without it)
• True one piece integrated digital dash/infotainment like shown in the concept car (I don’t think we’re getting this yet, but maybe soon)

My fears for the Genesis SUV are the same as I have about the MDX: based on the spy pictures the exterior looks like it’s going to be hideous, and I’m wondering if interior space is going to be less than in the Telluride/Palisade.

Not to mention you’re likely looking at $10,000+ to upgrade to a comparable trim level. Sheet... a Telluride SX Prestige is already at the top of my budget, and that’s after considering the value of my old car and my hardcore haggling skills.

Not knocking those who are able to do so, but it does blow my mind how people are able to drop $100,000+ on a car without blinking an eye.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

They’ll have plenty of stuff they can add to the Genesis SUV:

• RWD platform (for the hardcore drivers)
• Twin Turbo V6 with HP in the mid-300s, maybe even a V8
• A “super premium” audio system (14+ speakers, perhaps dual subs)
• Massaging seats (Would be nice in the Telluride/Palisade, but I certainly can live without it)
• True one piece integrated digital dash/infotainment like shown in the concept car (I don’t think we’re getting this yet, but maybe soon)

My fears for the Genesis SUV are the same as I have about the MDX: based on the spy pictures the exterior looks like it’s going to be hideous, and I’m wondering if interior space is going to be less than in the Telluride/Palisade.

Not to mention you’re likely looking at $10,000+ to upgrade to a comparable trim level. Sheet... a Telluride SX Prestige is already at the top of my budget, and that’s after considering the value of my old car and my hardcore haggling skills.

Not knocking those who are able to do so, but it does blow my mind how people are able to drop $100,000+ on a car without blinking an eye.

Yeah, that's true. There's plenty left for Genesis to upgrade... As for having the cash to buy the car you want - I'd always wanted a Mercedes-Benz S-Class. I guess you can say it's my dream car. At one point in my life I was able to afford one. Not without blinking an eye! But I could afford it. Still, when the time came to buy it - I just couldn't. It didn't make sense to pay $100,000 for a car (actually $110,000). I guess it will stay a dream as I don't see myself working any harder as I get older...

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[zhelder]

Yeah, that's true. There's plenty left for Genesis to upgrade... As for having the cash to buy the car you want - I'd always wanted a Mercedes-Benz S-Class. I guess you can say it's my dream car. At one point in my life I was able to afford one. Not without blinking an eye! But I could afford it. Still, when the time came to buy it - I just couldn't. It didn't make sense to pay $100,000 for a car (actually $110,000). I guess it will stay a dream as I don't see myself working any harder as I get older...

Yup, me too. Love the S-Class, the BMW X5, and Tesla. But I don’t know if I’m ever going to life that life.

And the Telluride’s got a dang fine package for a very fair price.

Of course, if my father was still alive and he knew I was considering spending $40,000+ on a car (especially a foreign car, LOL), he’d die 5 deaths at the same time. He once bought a car for $300 when I was a kid (late 70s) and thought that was too much money. My first car was a 1981 Cutlass Supreme sedan, bought in 1989. I paid $1250 for it (the woman was asking $1600, but my older cousin came along and flirted with her to get the price down) with my own money, and he went ballistic over me spending “so much money”.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Yup, me too. Love the S-Class, the BMW X5, and Tesla. But I don’t know if I’m ever going to life that life.

And the Telluride’s got a dang fine package for a very fair price.

Of course, if my father was still alive and he knew I was considering spending $40,000+ on a car (especially a foreign car, LOL), he’d die 5 deaths at the same time. He once bought a car for $300 when I was a kid (late 70s) and thought that was too much money.

My first car was $300. A 1970 Chevy Nova with a birds nest in the fender...

When all is said and done, you're right - the Telluride is going to give us plain old middle class people a taste of the good life for much less than we'd pay for something sold by Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etcetera. It'll probably be 90% of the experience for nearly half the price...

 

[zhelder]

My first car was $300. A 1970 Chevy Nova with a birds nest in the fender...

When all is said and done, you're right - the Telluride is going to give us plain old middle class people a taste of the good life for much less than we'd pay for something sold by Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etcetera. It'll probably be 90% of the experience for nearly half the price...

Very well said.

And a Nova... at least in 1970, pre-Energy Crisis, the cars still had some soul.

My aunt, who may have been the cheapest person to ever live, had a 1976 Nova for many years. She had the cheapest model they made, and I sincerely think she may have forced the dealer to remove some base features from the car to get the price down. It was a horrible car.

Combine that with the fact that she was a horrible driver and it made for some truly terrifying rides in that thing.

 

[zhelder]

Found this video on the Palisade today. It’s in Russian (wish my Dad was still alive to tell me what the heck this guy is saying), but I still found it informative:

Differences I’ve noticed between the Palisade and Telluride:

• The Palisade has paddle shifters (I guess it has to with a push button transmission)
• The Palisade has two terrain modes that the Telluride doesn’t seem to have... Sand and Mud. However, the Palisade doesn’t appear to let you manually lock the differential (Look at me talking like a fancy car guy!)
• There are two buttons on the left side of the front passenger seat in the Palisade that are not present in the Telluride (power folding?)
• I can’t tell for sure, but it looks like the Palisade may offer four-way lumbar support for the driver seat vs two-way in the Telluride
• While I like the look and cover in the center console, it is indeed odd that the wireless charging pad is next to the cup holders in the Palisade (Don’t worry... I guarantee you I’ll blow myself up before you so you can know if it’s dangerous or not)
• I still prefer the Hyundai instrumentation font to the Kia’s, but the quirky Kia font is growing on me.

So, it looks like the Palisade may be a bit more luxurious on the inside, but the Telluride still wins on the outside. And we still don’t know how much more the Palisade is going to cost (but it’s definitely gonna cost more). This is going to be a tough decision.

What isn’t going to be a tough decision is knowing that either the Telluride or the Palisade is going to be my next car.

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[Kamauxx]

Found this video on the Palisade today. It’s in Russian (wish my Dad was still alive to tell me what the heck this guy is saying), but I still found it informative:

• There are two buttons on the left side of the front passenger seat in the Palisade that are not present in the Telluride (power folding?)

If you are talking about the buttons he couldn't figure out, to the right of the cup holders those are to make the cup holders swivel out. In the video they're in their "in use" position. They can be rotated clockwise to make the entire compartment flat with no obstructions.

 

[zhelder]

If you are talking about the buttons he couldn't figure out, to the right of the cup holders those are to make the cup holders swivel out. In the video they're in their "in use" position. They can be rotated clockwise to make the entire compartment flat with no obstructions.

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I was referring to the two buttons right on the front passenger seat...

 

[ucinn]

Those are so the driver can move the passenger seat I believe

 

[Destrukt]

I just don't like the interior layout of the Palisade and also that front grill looks hideous. Just my personal opinion though...