Seat Belt Discussion

[Tim-in-CA]

Buckle up people! I had a coworker who refused to wear his seatbelt and was eventually in an accident. When he came back to work a few months later his face looked like Frankenstein!

 

[ucinn]

I wear mine, but have the extenders because there are some passengers I have that don't like to wear one. They are adults and it's not my place to tell them what to do. So I just have it plugged in to my passenger seat. You can plug the seatbelt into them if you do want to wear it so you don't have to remove them. They are a very good remedy for me. The Mustang was better, you could turn them off with just some button pushing.

 

[cliffnerd5]

I wear mine, but have the extenders because there are some passengers I have that don't like to wear one. They are adults and it's not my place to tell them what to do. So I just have it plugged in to my passenger seat. You can plug the seatbelt into them if you do want to wear it so you don't have to remove them. They are a very good remedy for me. The Mustang was better, you could turn them off with just some button pushing.

Not to be that guy, but it actually is 'your place'. If you care about yourself, or anyone else in the car, that person is a massive hazard to anyone else in the vehicle. A 100-200+ lb projectile in an accident can easily kill or injure another passenger in an otherwise unsubstantial accident.

 

[Karam.31]

Not to be that guy, but it actually is 'your place'. If you care about yourself, or anyone else in the car, that person is a massive hazard to anyone else in the vehicle. A 100-200+ lb projectile in an accident can easily kill or injure another passenger in an otherwise unsubstantial accident.

Not to mention the windshield...

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[Gwyn]

I wear mine, but have the extenders because there are some passengers I have that don't like to wear one. They are adults and it's not my place to tell them what to do. So I just have it plugged in to my passenger seat. You can plug the seatbelt into them if you do want to wear it so you don't have to remove them. They are a very good remedy for me. The Mustang was better, you could turn them off with just some button pushing.

You will not want to hear this, but it is true.

1.) When you get into an accident, they will take a lot of damage. They will spend a long time in the hospital, and when faced with either suing you for your insurance or face economic ruin, your friends will sue. And if they do not, the hospital or their insurance company will. You are legally obligated to make sure they are buckled up. If you are not, then they will argue that you should have known that they could have been injured. Either way, you are swinging by your toenails.

2.) Worst, if they are injured or, god forbid, killed, you will be charged with either vehicular manslaughter or assault. You could even be charged with homicide because of your little bypass device. You are facing anywhere between 1 year to 10 years in prison. Is it really worth it?

Example.

https://www.einhornharris.com/blog/criminal-law/drivers-can-jailed-passengers-dont-wear-seatbelts/

This will spread from state to state. No reason to be an example in your state.

 

[ucinn]

There has never been a case where a person has been charged in the death of another because of not making them where their seatbelt. It's an add on they throw in for wrecklessly causing the death of another because of their wreckless driving.

Even from your article above The driver was indicted for a second-degree offense based upon the seat belt law and recklessly causing the death of the passenger. I can promise you if the person driving wan't being an asshat, there would have been no charges.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

There has never been a case where a person has been charged in the death of another because of not making them where their seatbelt. It's an add on they throw in for wrecklessly causing the death of another because of their wreckless driving.

Even from your article above The driver was indicted for a second-degree offense based upon the seat belt law and recklessly causing the death of the passenger. I can promise you if the person driving wan't being an asshat, there would have been no charges.

But why even risk it? Seatbelts and airbags (well some Takata don't) do save lives. In my example above, the coworker had gone out to lunch with me a month or so before his accident and when he didn't put on his seat belt, I commented that he needed to wear his belt because I didn't want his "pretty little face" to get smashed if we were in an accident. Sadly that happened to him a month later and was permanently disfigured because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt --- I'm telling you, he was scary looking (but was very sad).

Now, don't get me started on passengers (sadly mostly women) who put their feet on the dashboard … don't they realize that there is an explosive device under the dash and that their feet and legs will be thrust upwards in an accident? UGGGG!

This is why you shouldn't put your feet on the dashboard, mom warns

"Basically my whole right side was broken, and it's simply because of my ignorance..."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Ovibos]

Here in Illinois, motorcycle helmets are not mandatory.

Just because using a safety mechanism isn't required doesn't mean that not doing so isn't really stupid.

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[TellurideSX]

Wow. I was really afraid this would go this way. I’m sure we can all agree that seat belts should be used at all times. That really wasn’t the question.

 

[ucinn]

Why even risk it? Because it should be a personal choice by an adult who will do no harm to others by not wearing his/her seatbelt. Don't you think big brother has enough control of our lives? Another reason, is that is another adult and it's not my place to tell them how to live their lives just as I expect no one else to tell me how to live mine.

 

[Ovibos]

Why even risk it? Because it should be a personal choice by an adult who will do no harm to others by not wearing his/her seatbelt. Don't you think big brother has enough control of our lives? Another reason, is that is another adult and it's not my place to tell them how to live their lives just as I expect no one else to tell me how to live mine.

How about self-preservation? They become a 100+ pound loose projectile flying at you in a collision. Same reason you tie down heavy cargo.

 

[Joflo0705]

Who does not wear a seatbelt nowadays?

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[cliffnerd5]

Why even risk it? Because it should be a personal choice by an adult who will do no harm to others by not wearing his/her seatbelt. Don't you think big brother has enough control of our lives? Another reason, is that is another adult and it's not my place to tell them how to live their lives just as I expect no one else to tell me how to live mine.

It does harm to everyone else in the car in the event of an accident... The unbelted person is a hazard to all other passengers.

 

[CAsuKiHy]

I would like to add that vaccines DO SAVE LIVES!

 

[Tim-in-CA]

And let’s not forget how many lives are lost every year by running with scissors! Oh, the humanity!!

 

[red426]

I wear mine, but have the extenders because there are some passengers I have that don't like to wear one. They are adults and it's not my place to tell them what to do. So I just have it plugged in to my passenger seat. You can plug the seatbelt into them if you do want to wear it so you don't have to remove them. They are a very good remedy for me. The Mustang was better, you could turn them off with just some button pushing.

Just tell them, either put the seat belt on or get out...

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[Gwyn]

There has never been a case where a person has been charged in the death of another because of not making them where their seatbelt. It's an add on they throw in for wrecklessly causing the death of another because of their wreckless driving.

Even from your article above The driver was indicted for a second-degree offense based upon the seat belt law and recklessly causing the death of the passenger. I can promise you if the person driving wan't being an asshat, there would have been no charges.

Are you sure that will hold with a simple google search? oh I don't care. You are going to do it because you are going to do it. If you really don't care about your friends, then why should I, but you are warned, you can and will be held reasonable.

 

[Jdgate]

How about self-preservation? They become a 100+ pound loose projectile flying at you in a collision. Same reason you tie down heavy cargo.

This right here. My grandmother taught myself/siblings/cousins to always wear our seatbelts. She use to tell us the car would not start unless the seatbelts were fastened. She made a big to do about how the keys wouldn’t turn. I can’t tell you how long I believed that. In my car, you wear a seatbelt. I don’t need you to be a projectile in my car. Have people died wearing a seatbelt, they sure have. My grandma did. I have seen vehicle collisions up close and personal of non seatbelt wearing crashes. Not pretty. Your car, do what you want. In my car, you will do what I want.

 

[Wap52]

State law here in Texas. Everyone in car has to have a seat belt on.