2021 Telluride Detailing Thread

[Wolf27]

The answer is 100% yes. The PPF is locking in the swirls and paint imperfections. Find another detailer.

+1. Paint needs to be 90-95% (or more if you’re gonna go wild) defect free BEFORE PPF and coating. There’s really no “new” car delivered that’s upwards of 95% defect free, unless it’s an exotic, and even then it will need correction still. Factory paint finishers have to do a bunch of cars a day so they spend maybe five minutes on a car (if that) identifying defects and “correcting”. Then transportation, unless in an enclosed trailer (not the telluride), is hell on a car even when it’s all wrapped up. Then dealer prep and “detailers” just run a quick buff and lather the crap out of the interior in greasy armor all.

find another place that will properly inspect and at least do a light correction where needed before PPF and ceramic is applied.

 

[Wolf27]

You should definitely be fine by then. The first wash is fun man.

Oh I am accustomed lol. Ceramic pro was a 2 week cure and it was horrible to wait. But that first wash where the foam cannon can’t make enough suds to keep on the surface and it just slides away is

 

[JerseySXP]

I just got my Black Cherry Nightfall this past weekend. I am strongly looking at PPF...but since it is new do I need the correction. My detailer said no.

I'll also add that a mindful detailer will decontaminate the paint...give it a good scrub down...paint correct...polish...then panel prep which basically means it takes off any polish left over on the surface from the polish and then do PPF and Ceramic.

All of those steps are necessary if you want a beautiful finish. Especially a high gloss one.

 

[Prestoni]

The answer is 100% yes. The PPF is locking in the swirls and paint imperfections. Find another detailer.

Good point

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[mcbrains001]

I'll also add that a mindful detailer will decontaminate the paint...give it a good scrub down...paint correct...polish...then panel prep which basically means it takes off any polish left over on the surface from the polish and then do PPF and Ceramic.

All of those steps are necessary if you want a beautiful finish. Especially a high gloss one.

bro I think you might need to set up a shop. You really know your stuff

 

[JerseySXP]

bro I think you might need to set up a shop. You really know your stuff

Thanks man. Just a hobby but if I ever lost my day job then I'm def going into detailing!

 

[Wolf27]

Thanks man. Just a hobby but if I ever lost my day job then I'm def going into detailing!

This lol. My dream is to win the lottery (or have some rich uncle I didn’t know about die) and I’ll build the ultimate detail garage and just detail cars for free all day. That and do pressure washing around town. Just have my little tow rig pressure washer and roll up on places and clean them up. For charity and stuff. The simple pleasures!

 

[gman1868]

Got it back from the shop with the correction, PPF, and coating done. The urge to wash is strong, but cure process is 4 days. Looks awesome. The few blemishes that were in the paint are gone and she’s lookin real slick. Lost some daylight for some good pics, that would show the actual up close correction improvement. PPF still has a few bubbles and moisture spots that will come out probably by tomorrow, not worried on that. Overall pretty happy. Wash impressions with all the new Feynlab stuff probably Sunday or Monday.

Also pretty sure I’m ordering the SwissTrax next week... just need to finalize the color patterns. Went deep down the rabbit hole this past weekend on YouTube and I can’t shake the urge lol.

Looks fantastic!

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[gman1868]

This is a fantastic demonstration of how ceramic coating protects your paint.

 

[Prestoni]

Long overdue thread. More than a dozen threads talk about PPF and Ceramic coatings on the site.

Consolidating that to one thread.

Feel free to share ideas, pictures, equipment recommendations and of course list killer dealers anyone finds out there relating to detailing.

My Telluride has XPEL Ultimate as a "highway" package. Full front bumper, partial hood, partial fenders, full mirrors.

IGL Kenzo 4 year Ceramic coating.
IGL Leather Ceramic coating on inside leather surfaces - did this myself. Very easy.

Foam shampoo of choice: Gyeon Quartz Bathe+ (1/5 of cannon shampoo and 4/5 warm water)
Bucket soap - Carpro Reset
Wheel cleaner - Chemical Guys Signature Wheel cleaner
Quick detailing Spray - Carpro Reload & Ech2o aka Magic Merlin Mix

As you can see I'm really into this stuff and some others on here are as well - let's get this rolling!

Why did you choose XPEL over 3M and how many packages did it take?

 

[gman1868]

Why did you choose XPEL over 3M and how many packages did it take?

I had XPEL installed because it's one of the top rated PPFs. It performed very well in testing. It's also installed by one of the top shops in Minnesota.

This channel has long term tests this is the most recent one:

 

[JerseySXP]

Why did you choose XPEL over 3M and how many packages did it take?

XPEL ultimate was the one I wanted due to long term testing. Not sure how many packages it took.

3m is good too. I think the quality of the installer matters more in the end of the day.

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[Prestoni]

I found an installer about 20 minutes from me that does correction, XPEL PPF and ceramic as well as tinting front two windows

 

[IBoughtaKia?]

I am new to "Detailing". I've always just washed my cars and applied a regular wax. I joined the Telluride forum when I ordered my new ride last week. Now I hear things like ceramic coating and PPF, and no idea what they are. Here are my questions:
1. Is the Paint Protection offered by dealers one of those ceramic coating or PPF?
2. What is Paint Correction? and why would you need to do paint correction on a new vehicle?
3. Would you recommend buying Rust Protection and Paint Protection offered by dealers?
4. Should I apply ceramic coating to the vehicle? If not, what's the next best alternative?
Can't I just wash and wax my cars regularly like the good old days? I live in Ontario, Canada, so lots of salt and grime in the winter.

 

[YAH DEF]

I am new to "Detailing". I've always just washed my cars and applied a regular wax. I joined the Telluride forum when I ordered my new ride last week. Now I hear things like ceramic coating and PPF, and no idea what they are. Here are my questions:
1. Is the Paint Protection offered by dealers one of those ceramic coating or PPF?
2. What is Paint Correction? and why would you need to do paint correction on a new vehicle?
3. Would you recommend buying Rust Protection and Paint Protection offered by dealers?
4. Should I apply ceramic coating to the vehicle? If not, what's the next best alternative?
Can't I just wash and wax my cars regularly like the good old days? I live in Ontario, Canada, so lots of salt and grime in the winter.

You can definitely just wash and wax like you used to! This is my first time with ceramic and I was drawn to the level of protection, nice looks and easier wash.

Under a microscope, even a new paint job out of the factory has peaks and pits - it's not entirely smooth and even. Paint correction provides a smoother finish before the ceramic is applied.

Also Ontario here. Pretty much a luxury to spend money on ceramic. Decided to give myself the gift. Have not done any rust protection and I wouldn't buy anything offered by a dealer.

 

[JerseySXP]

I am new to "Detailing". I've always just washed my cars and applied a regular wax. I joined the Telluride forum when I ordered my new ride last week. Now I hear things like ceramic coating and PPF, and no idea what they are. Here are my questions:
1. Is the Paint Protection offered by dealers one of those ceramic coating or PPF?
2. What is Paint Correction? and why would you need to do paint correction on a new vehicle?
3. Would you recommend buying Rust Protection and Paint Protection offered by dealers?
4. Should I apply ceramic coating to the vehicle? If not, what's the next best alternative?
Can't I just wash and wax my cars regularly like the good old days? I live in Ontario, Canada, so lots of salt and grime in the winter.

Welcome!

1. Is the Paint Protection offered by dealers one of those ceramic coating or PPF? No - it's usually just a wax that they overcharge for - skip it. In fact if you are serious about PPF and/or Ceramic coating tell them not even to wash it before you pick it up as they will manage to add paint imperfections with their old, grimy microfibers.
2. What is Paint Correction? and why would you need to do paint correction on a new vehicle? The final stage of "painting" a vehicle is adding the topcoat and polishing. You would be surprised at how bad car manufacturers are at this step as they are being rushed to finish the vehicle.
3. Would you recommend buying Rust Protection and Paint Protection offered by dealers? No, never.
4. Should I apply ceramic coating to the vehicle? If not, what's the next best alternative? Sure, if you want too - it's a costly investment but well worth it in my opinion. I only recommend this IF you are eager to learn how to maintain the coating correctly.
Can't I just wash and wax my cars regularly like the good old days? I live in Ontario, Canada, so lots of salt and grime in the winter. Of course you can stick to your regular car washing techniques. PPF and Ceramic coatings aren't the end all be all - just for those interested in skipping waxing their vehicles and assisting in cleaning their vehicles (dirt/grime/water bead off with the right soaps and shampoos).

it's hitting 38 degrees here today and I finally plan on using the new setup...had a TON of leaks when I started her up which I have taken care of now (fingers crossed)...with lots of brut force strength and a couple of new wrenches. I'll take before/after pictures.

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[JerseySXP]

I found an installer about 20 minutes from me that does correction, XPEL PPF and ceramic as well as tinting front two windows

Find them on social media/Facebook or Instagram and check them out...are people happy about their work - do they have a decent following...if they have NO social media pages then skip them.

 

[Darcygg]

How do you install this? Is it a spray or is it wiped/sponged on?

 

[JerseySXP]

Sunday fun day. As always still need to apply tire dressing.












The warm water pressure washing was nice for the salt and grime. This was a complete touchless wash on the body of the vehicle. Pre wash, foam cannon, rinse. I like the added touch of throwing in the 2 bucket method but I wanted to see how much cleaning the warm water did touchless and I was impressed.

 

[IBoughtaKia?]

Welcome!

1. Is the Paint Protection offered by dealers one of those ceramic coating or PPF? No - it's usually just a wax that they overcharge for - skip it. In fact if you are serious about PPF and/or Ceramic coating tell them not even to wash it before you pick it up as they will manage to add paint imperfections with their old, grimy microfibers.
2. What is Paint Correction? and why would you need to do paint correction on a new vehicle? The final stage of "painting" a vehicle is adding the topcoat and polishing. You would be surprised at how bad car manufacturers are at this step as they are being rushed to finish the vehicle.
3. Would you recommend buying Rust Protection and Paint Protection offered by dealers? No, never.
4. Should I apply ceramic coating to the vehicle? If not, what's the next best alternative? Sure, if you want too - it's a costly investment but well worth it in my opinion. I only recommend this IF you are eager to learn how to maintain the coating correctly.
Can't I just wash and wax my cars regularly like the good old days? I live in Ontario, Canada, so lots of salt and grime in the winter. Of course you can stick to your regular car washing techniques. PPF and Ceramic coatings aren't the end all be all - just for those interested in skipping waxing their vehicles and assisting in cleaning their vehicles (dirt/grime/water bead off with the right soaps and shampoos).

it's hitting 38 degrees here today and I finally plan on using the new setup...had a TON of leaks when I started her up which I have taken care of now (fingers crossed)...with lots of brut force strength and a couple of new wrenches. I'll take before/after pictures.

Thanks, JerseySXP. Very informative