Apple Car Play

[Mis2810]

Hi! Newbie here. Just made my deal today for my 2021 Telluride S due to come in on June 3. I’m making a big jump from a 2006 Nissan Murano! We are iPhone family and what I’ve gathered from my reading here is that there is no wireless connection to Apple Car Play without an adapter? Can someone post a link to buy this magical adapter? .
Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between using Bluetooth to connect your phone for music or navigation through the speakers and Apple Car Play?

Thanks!

 

[bruesjoh04]

Hi! Newbie here. Just made my deal today for my 2021 Telluride S due to come in on June 3. I’m making a big jump from a 2006 Nissan Murano! We are iPhone family and what I’ve gathered from my reading here is that there is no wireless connection to Apple Car Play without an adapter? Can someone post a link to buy this magical adapter? .
Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between using Bluetooth to connect your phone for music or navigation through the speakers and Apple Car Play?

Thanks!

No Telluride supports wireless CarPlay, so the only way to get it is to plug in your phone to the main data port. Alternatively, you can plug in a wireless CarPlay adapter to that port. One such item is the CarPlay2Air adapter. That is what I have been using for about 18 months with success. Alternatively, there are some like the Carlinkit 2.0 available on Amazon. Others on the forum have used that one.

When you use CarPlay, you are using the interface designed by Apple to show what is on your phone (maps, music, texting, etc). On an LX or S, that would be the only way to get maps and navigation.

Simply connecting your phone via bluetooth will allow you to play your music and take calls and texts in your car, but you will be using the Kia interfaces for everything at that point, making some selections more difficult and less intuitive.

 

[kcos194]

No Telluride supports wireless CarPlay, so the only way to get it is to plug in your phone to the main data port. Alternatively, you can plug in a wireless CarPlay adapter to that port. One such item is the CarPlay2Air adapter. That is what I have been using for about 18 months with success. Alternatively, there are some like the Carlinkit 2.0 available on Amazon. Others on the forum have used that one.

When you use CarPlay, you are using the interface designed by Apple to show what is on your phone (maps, music, texting, etc). On an LX or S, that would be the only way to get maps and navigation.

Simply connecting your phone via bluetooth will allow you to play your music and take calls and texts in your car, but you will be using the Kia interfaces for everything at that point, making some selections more difficult and less intuitive.

Question on the CarPlay2Air adapter, can it be used on multiple phones? Having a hard time finding that answer online anywhere. In other words, do I need 2 adapters for both my phone and my wife's, or can one adapter work for both?

Thanks!

 

[bruesjoh04]

Question on the CarPlay2Air adapter, can it be used on multiple phones? Having a hard time finding that answer online anywhere. In other words, do I need 2 adapters for both my phone and my wife's, or can one adapter work for both?

Thanks!

One adapter is all you need. You can connect multiple phones to it. It will try to reconnect to the previously connected phone each time it boots. Or you can choose your desired device from the list if it isn’t the one that was last connected.

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[kcos194]

One adapter is all you need. You can connect multiple phones to it. It will try to reconnect to the previously connected phone each time it boots. Or you can choose your desired device from the list if it isn’t the one that was last connected.

Awesome, thank you!

 

[murphys2ndlaw]

I use the carplay2air on my 2022. Just be sure to make sure the units firmware is updated. You just open a browser on your phone to the adapters IP.

 

[kcos194]

I use the carplay2air on my 2022. Just be sure to make sure the units firmware is updated. You just open a browser on your phone to the adapters IP.

So, I’ve never really thought about why I’d want wireless car play. As the driver, my phone is going to be inaccessible anyway, so what’s the attraction to the wireless functionality? Is it just not having to plug in?

I could see it being useful for my wife if she’ll sometimes have her phone in her purse or something like that, but for me I’m trying to think of when it would move the needle enough to drop 100+ on the dongles.

 

[bruesjoh04]

So, I’ve never really thought about why I’d want wireless car play. As the driver, my phone is going to be inaccessible anyway, so what’s the attraction to the wireless functionality? Is it just not having to plug in?

I could see it being useful for my wife if she’ll sometimes have her phone in her purse or something like that, but for me I’m trying to think of when it would move the needle enough to drop 100+ on the dongles.

I would say it is unbelievably helpful day to day to not have to plug in but still get all of the features of CarPlay. That on its own makes this 100% worth it.

It’s even better if you’re running errands with frequent stops. Never take your phone out but still get all the benefits.

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[murphys2ndlaw]

So, I’ve never really thought about why I’d want wireless car play. As the driver, my phone is going to be inaccessible anyway, so what’s the attraction to the wireless functionality? Is it just not having to plug in?

I could see it being useful for my wife if she’ll sometimes have her phone in her purse or something like that, but for me I’m trying to think of when it would move the needle enough to drop 100+ on the dongles.

It’s just convenient in the end. I don’t have to take my phone out of my pocket to connect it for music or google maps. Also, since I don’t have to take it out… I don’t forget my phone on the car lol.

 

[Hal]

One adapter is all you need. You can connect multiple phones to it. It will try to reconnect to the previously connected phone each time it boots. Or you can choose your desired device from the list if it isn’t the one that was last connected.

For someone who has to carry 2 phones does the adapter make it any easier to switch phones on the fly for an incoming call on the “unconnected“ device?
Thanks in advance!

 

[bruesjoh04]

For someone who has to carry 2 phones does the adapter make it any easier to switch phones on the fly for an incoming call on the “unconnected“ device?
Thanks in advance!

The adapter itself won’t make this any simpler (all it is really doing is mimicking a phone that’s plugged in). However, you should be able to do what you’re wanting as long as all you want to do is answer a call on the secondary phone and don’t care if it’s connected to CarPlay.

In your case, you would have your primary phone connected to CarPlay (either wired or with the adapter). Make sure you delete that device out of the Bluetooth settings on your car (or at least move it down the priority list). Then, make sure your secondary phone is connected to Bluetooth and is the primary device (top priority).

With this setup, you should be able to receive a call to either phone and it will take over your vehicle‘s system.

Note I haven’t actually tried this myself, so I’m just operating on assumptions. I can give it a try myself later tonight when I get home (or you can try it yourself, too).

Also note that if you want your secondary phone to be connected to CarPlay, there isn’t going to be a good way to do it period, especially to accept an incoming call. Wired, you have to unplug the current phone and plug in the new one. With the adapter, the best way to disconnect a connected phone is to turn off WiFi on that device, which will disconnect it from CarPlay and then it will send you back to the dongle’s start screen, where you could choose your secondary phone. Then you’d have to wait for it to connect. Obviously not something you’d want to do when receiving a call.

Update: see below, but as I found in testing, there is no way to have two phones concurrently connected so they will ring through the infotainment if called. So disregard most of this comment.

 

[Hal]

The adapter itself won’t make this any simpler (all it is really doing is mimicking a phone that’s plugged in). However, you should be able to do what you’re wanting as long as all you want to do is answer a call on the secondary phone and don’t care if it’s connected to CarPlay.

In your case, you would have your primary phone connected to CarPlay (either wired or with the adapter). Make sure you delete that device out of the Bluetooth settings on your car (or at least move it down the priority list). Then, make sure your secondary phone is connected to Bluetooth and is the primary device (top priority).

With this setup, you should be able to receive a call to either phone and it will take over your vehicle‘s system.

Note I haven’t actually tried this myself, so I’m just operating on assumptions. I can give it a try myself later tonight when I get home (or you can try it yourself, too).

Also note that if you want your secondary phone to be connected to CarPlay, there isn’t going to be a good way to do it period, especially to accept an incoming call. Wired, you have to unplug the current phone and plug in the new one. With the adapter, the best way to disconnect a connected phone is to turn off WiFi on that device, which will disconnect it from CarPlay and then it will send you back to the dongle’s start screen, where you could choose your secondary phone. Then you’d have to wait for it to connect. Obviously not something you’d want to do when receiving a call.

Thank you. Have been struggling with this but changing the priority of the primary phone makes sense and should work! Appreciate it.

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[bruesjoh04]

Thank you. Have been struggling with this but changing the priority of the primary phone makes sense and should work! Appreciate it.

Well, unfortunately, disregard my theory.

I went and gave it a try, and connecting CarPlay will disconnect the phone operation of the connected Bluetooth device.

So, there is no way whatsoever in the vehicle to have two concurrently connected devices being available for phone duties.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised because you can have two concurrently connected Bluetooth audio devices, but only one of those will work for phone duties. I think I got hopeful in answering your question that the system would treat CarPlay differently than it does Bluetooth.

Sorry to get your hopes up!

 

[Hal]

Well, unfortunately, disregard my theory.

I went and gave it a try, and connecting CarPlay will disconnect the phone operation of the connected Bluetooth device.

So, there is no way whatsoever in the vehicle to have two concurrently connected devices being available for phone duties.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised because you can have two concurrently connected Bluetooth audio devices, but only one of those will work for phone duties. I think I got hopeful in answering your question that the system would treat CarPlay differently than it does Bluetooth.

Sorry to get your hopes up!

I appreciate your time. This falls under the category of, we put a man on the moon over 50 years ago and engineers can’t figure out a low cost solution .
For now I think call forwarding from the work to the personal phone might be my best option.
Thanks again.

 

[Katy_Tell]

Well, unfortunately, disregard my theory.

I went and gave it a try, and connecting CarPlay will disconnect the phone operation of the connected Bluetooth device.

So, there is no way whatsoever in the vehicle to have two concurrently connected devices being available for phone duties.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised because you can have two concurrently connected Bluetooth audio devices, but only one of those will work for phone duties. I think I got hopeful in answering your question that the system would treat CarPlay differently than it does Bluetooth.

Sorry to get your hopes up!

Thanks for going the extra mile in checking this out.

On a tangent, I just noticed in your sig that you also have a Palisade. You have probably addressed this question elsewhere. But, here goes. 2 years out, which vehicle do you like better?

 

[bruesjoh04]

Thanks for going the extra mile in checking this out.

On a tangent, I just noticed in your sig that you also have a Palisade. You have probably addressed this question elsewhere. But, here goes. 2 years out, which vehicle do you like better?

If you want the full version, here is what I wrote a while back.

I would say I prefer the Telluride, but that’s the one I drive every day and the one I’m used to. I also prefer the Telluride’s exterior styling by a little bit.

Honestly though, if someone took my Telluride SX with Prestige package and replaced it with a 2020 Palisade Limited AWD or a 2021 or 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD, I would have very little to complain about.

Really, day-to-day, I think my biggest niggles with a Palisade would be not having anywhere great to store my sunglasses and the fact that I couldn’t easily hide my wireless CarPlay dongle if I had any cups in my cupholders.

I’d keep my Telluride given the choice, but you still can’t really go wrong with either of these.

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[Katy_Tell]

If you want the full version, here is what I wrote a while back.

I would say I prefer the Telluride, but that’s the one I drive every day and the one I’m used to. I also prefer the Telluride’s exterior styling by a little bit.

Honestly though, if someone took my Telluride SX with Prestige package and replaced it with a 2020 Palisade Limited AWD or a 2021 or 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD, I would have very little to complain about.

Really, day-to-day, I think my biggest niggles with a Palisade would be not having anywhere great to store my sunglasses and the fact that I couldn’t easily hide my wireless CarPlay dongle if I had any cups in my cupholders.

I’d keep my Telluride given the choice, but you still can’t really go wrong with either of these.

Thanks. I am with you on the exterior styling. Seen several. Don’t care much for the look (especially the grille). Speaking of the exterior styling of the Telluride, when I am behind the wheel, it feels BIG. But when I see others on the road, it looks sleeker and trim, especially when lined up with other competitors.

Thanks again for the assessment. I will follow the link to read more.

 

[arattle]

Thanks. I am with you on the exterior styling. Seen several. Don’t care much for the look (especially the grille). Speaking of the exterior styling of the Telluride, when I am behind the wheel, it feels BIG. But when I see others on the road, it looks sleeker and trim, especially when lined up with other competitors.

Thanks again for the assessment. I will follow the link to read more.

Big on the inside, small on the outside....it's pretty amazing what they did with the packaging.

 

[RockOut]

I have a ‘21 LX and use CarPlay all the time using the USB plug, but lately the connectors on my phone seem to be failing and disconnecting. If I add a Bluetooth adapter to the USB port, does that give me Bluetooth Car Play? Or do I have to get a Bluetooth Car Play USB adapter?

 

[bruesjoh04]

I have a ‘21 LX and use CarPlay all the time using the USB plug, but lately the connectors on my phone seem to be failing and disconnecting. If I add a Bluetooth adapter to the USB port, does that give me Bluetooth Car Play? Or do I have to get a Bluetooth Car Play USB adapter?

As long as you are certain that the problem lies on your phone side and this isn’t an issue with the car’s USB port, you can buy any of the wireless CarPlay adapters and you should be set.

Note that wireless CarPlay uses WiFi, not Bluetooth. Bluetooth doesn’t have the bandwidth required for the video signal being sent to the car. It only serves to initiate the connection, then immediately hands off to WiFi.