Cold start screeching noise

[Senator20]

I would like to know what oil people are running that are hearing this noise. All dealership oil changes?

 

[Dolcevita84]

I would like to know what oil people are running that are hearing this noise. All dealership oil changes?

For me, it's whatever oil Kia dealership uses.

 

[G-286328]

I have the exact same issue. Kia Telluride SXP. I live in Vermont (cold weather). Left the car with the dealership and got a message that they are contacting the Kia engineers and that the sound is coming from the intake. The car has 1000 miles on it owned it for less than a month.

I have 73k on my 2020 Kia Telly and yesterday and the battery ($275 Brakes Plus replacement) went out the same day this initial squealing kicked in. It was also a low of 10 degrees here in DFW. I’ll take it back in for oil change in month and have them look at timing belts, water pump,… it’s been our first problem with our Kia and in fact we just bought a 2022 Telly.

 

[octavian_kia]

The sound didn't last too long this am as it was not too cold, but I can say that the sound does change with the rpms.

When I started the car after about 3 or 4 seconds the sound started again. I pressed the gas and when the RPMs went above 2000rpms the sound got a high pitch for a brief second and then actually went away while the rpms were above 2000.

Then, as I pressed the pedal the sound only was present when the RPMs were between 1800 and 1900 approx. Sound was gone above or below that.

This whole sequence was over about 10 seconds. After that the noise was gone completely.

Summary:
start car. Sound started after about 3 or 4 seconds.
press pedal and for to about 2300rpms and noise made a higher louder pitch for a very brief moment
sound was then only present between the 1800-1900rpm range
after about 10 seconds of doing this the sound was gone for good

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[Senator20]

The sound didn't last too long this am as it was not too cold, but I can say that the sound does change with the rpms.

When I started the car after about 3 or 4 seconds the sound started again. I pressed the gas and when the RPMs went above 2000rpms the sound got a high pitch for a brief second and then actually went away while the rpms were above 2000.

Then, as I pressed the pedal the sound only was present when the RPMs were between 1800 and 1900 approx. Sound was gone above or below that.

This whole sequence was over about 10 seconds. After that the noise was gone completely.

Summary:
start car. Sound started after about 3 or 4 seconds.
press pedal and for to about 2300rpms and noise made a higher louder pitch for a very brief moment
sound was then only present between the 1800-1900rpm range
after about 10 seconds of doing this the sound was gone for good

What oil is in the vehicle?

 

[octavian_kia]

What oil is in the vehicle?

5w-30 Petro Canada Synthetic supplied by the local Kia dealership.

 

[coltonlaw1]

On my second Telluride....12 degrees out and my 2022 is making the noise....

 

[Senator20]

Played the video for my dealerships head service manger and he said in cold weather you hear everything, if it was a problem you would hear it all the time.

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[locorecto]

Played the video for my dealerships head service manger and he said in cold weather you hear everything, if it was a problem you would hear it all the time.

Can you imagine going to the doctor and saying: "Hey Doc my foot hurts when it's very cold." and he replies back, "Dude, everything hurts in cold weather. "

Moral of the story: That's pure BS. Classic example of car dealership and companies trying to cover their asses with stupid claims like this one. GOD, this is a new car. Mine is making this sound since it was 100 Miles old. This is the 3rd winter having the same issue.

Now temps don't need to be that low. Any day below 40 it will make the sound. And the sound stays for longer. Up to 30+ secs if temp goes below 32.

 

[G-932470]

I have a 2020 SXP that's been making this noise at start up all winter. No help from the dealership with it.

 

[Cal]

This is the first winter that my 2020 made any squealing noise upon engine start. It's happened twice. Both times were starts during extreme cold conditions, and after the vehicle had been driven in wetter, slushy conditions... then garage parked for several days followed by an extreme cold snap. In both cases, the squealing only lasted for a few seconds.... literally, ten seconds, or maybe less. Far less than a minute. I "believe" it's simply condensation that's formed on the belt/pulley systems and results in brief squealing until it's dissipated by movement. Annoying? Yes. Something I'm going to lose sleep over? No. I've owned other vehicles that had far worse belt squealing in cold weather.

The point I'm making is this. If it is condensation that's frozen or formed frost on components, then no amount of belt tightening or belt replacement is going to fix it. Nor will gunning the engine. Start the engine and let it idle till it calms down and then you're good to go.

 

[tdotTelly]

I believe it's because the engine setup was made without hydraulic valves based on my research

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[octavian_kia]

This is the first winter that my 2020 made any squealing noise upon engine start. It's happened twice. Both times were starts during extreme cold conditions, and after the vehicle had been driven in wetter, slushy conditions... then garage parked for several days followed by an extreme cold snap. In both cases, the squealing only lasted for a few seconds.... literally, ten seconds, or maybe less. Far less than a minute. I "believe" it's simply condensation that's formed on the belt/pulley systems and results in brief squealing until it's dissipated by movement. Annoying? Yes. Something I'm going to lose sleep over? No. I've owned other vehicles that had far worse belt squealing in cold weather.

The point I'm making is this. If it is condensation that's frozen or formed frost on components, then no amount of belt tightening or belt replacement is going to fix it. Nor will gunning the engine. Start the engine and let it idle till it calms down and then you're good to go.

It's unfortunate as the noise gets so loud on mine that it wakes the neighbors on both sides of my address. I can hear it from the back of my townhouse while my car is parked at the front outside. Neighbours are annoyed but understand that I am trying to get it fixed. One of them laughed several months ago when telling me about their new car they bought...they said they steered clear of Kia in the hopes of not waking everyone up. Honestly it's embarrassing. It's an almost $50k brand new car.

This winter was not as cold as last, thankfully. I only had about a dozen mornings where the noise appeared, and it wasn't as loud and didn't last as long because the temps rarely went below -10c. I also switched my cars around in the driveway on nights where the forecast was really cold so that I could use my other car early in the am.

 

[DrDave]

I have this on my 2022 Telluride as well. Mine is also loud enough to wake up the neighbors.

I told my dealeship about it and they said they already had another Telluride in with the same issue and would call me once they figured it out and then take care of fixing mine.

Months later they hadn't solved it, even after contacting KTAC.

I can't believe no one has found the source of this!

 

[yinjiefu06]

I have this on my 2022 Telluride as well. Mine is also loud enough to wake up the neighbors.

I told my dealeship about it and they said they already had another Telluride in with the same issue and would call me once they figured it out and then take care of fixing mine.

Months later they hadn't solved it, even after contacting KTAC.

I can't believe no one has found the source of this!

Hard to believe it's been 2.5 years since I first started this thread. Unfortunately, there hasn't been any solution yet. It's likely associated with the engine intake manifold, throttle body, or both. It seems that Kia is not interested in finding a solution since not a lot of people buy a Telluride, and only some of the owners live in a cold enough winter. I know it's BS but Kia is trying to ignore the issue. Parking in a garage would help a lot though it's not a solution for everybody.

 

[octavian_kia]

Hard to believe it's been 2.5 years since I first started this thread. Unfortunately, there hasn't been any solution yet. It's likely associated with the engine intake manifold, throttle body, or both. It seems that Kia is not interested in finding a solution since not a lot of people buy a Telluride, and only some of the owners live in a cold enough winter. I know it's BS but Kia is trying to ignore the issue. Parking in a garage would help a lot though it's not a solution for everybody.

Your thoughts on the throttle body make sense, as the first winter I had teh car I didn't have this noise, but the 2nd winter I did and I did have the throttle body cleaned/serviced.

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[Telly2Me]

Someone on this thread said that posts on this topic would pick up when the cold weather comes - they were right . 2021 Kia Telly and have had the screeching noise issue since the first winter of owning it. About 3 weeks ago I also got a temp sensor warning for engine overheat after a bit of city driving. Had the Telly towed to the dealership. They first thought it was a faulty temp sensor (which according to them is a known issue), but then ended up replacing the intake manifold and the gasket (they were able to replicate the screeching noise but not the engine overheat/temp sensor as they said no code registered). The manifold took 2 weeks to arrive from Korea. They also said that replacing it would take care of the screeching noise at cold weather startup - it didn’t. A couple of weeks prior, I was also smelling some faint type smell (like high heat) after exiting the vehicle, but didn’t think much of it. So, I have no idea what to do next, but I am nervous about driving now that the engine overheated, or did it - noone seems to know.

 

[Cal]

A screeching noise that only occurs during cold weather starts is belts.

IF it only makes noise during cold weather starts, then the belt is likely either not tensioned properly, or simply just stiff and needs to warm up to grip the pulleys properly. The challenge is that there's a spec for the belt tension, and both too loose and too tight will result in problems. Theoretically squealing could also be a sign of a worn serpentine belt, but unless you've got a considerable amount of mileage on your Telluride, I don't think a warn belt is the issue. Along with belt adjustment, you can also have the dealer check or adjust pulley alignment, as a mal-aligned pulley system would also generate a squealing issue. A failing pulley would also create this noise, so if you're having the shop check on pulley and belt alignment, also have them check the pulleys themselves to ensure they're all in good operating condition. If the serpentine is slipping, it can also result in other side issues, such as overheating since the serpentine often also drives the water pump... or an electrical fault due to the alternator not running.

But in my case, I only ever experience this in extreme cold conditions... and by extreme cold, I mean in the -30C range. (That's below -22F for you Imperial temp folks). Thankfully, that's not very often, and it clears up after a couple of minutes of engine run time. I simply let the engine idle till it warms up the noise goes away. I've experienced the exact same issue with a few (not all) other vehicles I've owned over the decades. Some seem more prone to the problem than others. In my specific case, I think my belt is merely stiff and needs to warm up. Thankfully, I park inside my garage, so even if it's squealing, I'm not annoying my neighbours.

If a person decides to toss some money at the issue in hopes of resolving it, you could consider getting a belt replacement. That would run around a couple hundred bucks... pretty much slit 50/50 between belt cost and shop labour. And then the shop can check the pulleys and belt alignment as part of the new belt installation process.

 

[yinjiefu06]

It’s been years since I started this thread, how time flies. I recently found that the rpm fluctuates a little bit in a “cold”cold start, that’s the first start in a cold day. The rpm goes up and down for ~ 100 rpm, if I shift to drive, it drops to a few hundreds rpm and no more fluctuation. I don’t know how long it has been like that since the telly is the wife’s ride. Have you seen this?

 

[Tellyluver]

Hey folks, my SXP recently had screeching noise from the hood when I start the engine first thing in the morning, it lasts about 10 seconds then fades away. It happens more frequently when it’s freezing cold. Did some search and the most possible reason seems to be loose engine belt that slips in cold weather, but this shouldn’t happen in a 1 year old car. We’ve been very satisfied about our Telly and this is the only issue we’ve found.
Will have the first oil change next week and also have the dealership look into this, hopefully it can be corrected and I will post update.

OK so my Telluride has been in dealership the 2nd time, they just told me the noise is not long enough to diagnose, technician suspects it's from engine intake manifold or around it but cannot find the point, so in this way Kia won't reimburse any parts/labor. I also called the Kia customer support and it has no help, simply said if dealership cannot find the source of the problem, they have nothing to do. Both side are telling me to live with a problem that is related with engine, until it get worse or break down. Totally disappointed.

I too have experienced the same issue and my car has been in the dealership twice. They still cannot determine the cause. Very disappointing and frustrating! I hope they can figure it out for you.