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I'm considering a 2021 Telluride next year. I can't believe that KIA charges an annual fee for the UVO system. Seems to me to be petty. Also, the Highlander offer FREE scheduled maintenance where as the Telluride doesn't. Another questionable decision to make.
 
I'm considering a 2021 Telluride next year. I can't believe that KIA charges an annual fee for the UVO system. Seems to me to be petty. Also, the Highlander offer FREE scheduled maintenance where as the Telluride doesn't. Another questionable decision to make.
General Motors has OnStar. FCA has UConnect Access. Many other manufacturers have their own similar things. This is Kia’s equivalent. If you don’t want to get the added convenience and protection features provided with it, then don’t renew after your free year.
 
General Motors has OnStar. FCA has UConnect Access. Many other manufacturers have their own similar things. This is Kia’s equivalent. If you don’t want to get the added convenience and protection features provided with it, then don’t renew after your free year.
I currently own a 2018 Audi A5 Sportback and a 2018 VW GTI which I have no membership concerns with. I guess I'll have to see exactly what I need at this point.
 
I'm considering a 2021 Telluride next year. I can't believe that KIA charges an annual fee for the UVO system. Seems to me to be petty. Also, the Highlander offer FREE scheduled maintenance where as the Telluride doesn't. Another questionable decision to make.

though I don’t have one yet, I’ve been interested in the statistical valuation and cost break out of (things). This gets off topic, but a coworker of mine bought an EV Tesla model S For X price Recently. I’ve had countless discussions with him about the expected break even point with buying I’ve had countless discussions with him about the expected break even point with buying an GDI SUV such as this. Of course, there’s a lot that goes into this evaluation and you’re comparing apples to oranges, but it interests me. My beer math suggested that his $65k no maint sans tires EV vs my $40k SUV would be a break even delta of 7-9 years. This was calculated off of a cost of sticker estimated $1750 for fuel + estimated monthly maint cost (found in a blog) of ($156x12) $1872 (round down to an annual maint cost of $1750 for easy math)
$65k - $40k = $25k / $3500 annual cost to drive = ~7 yrs.
of course, that didn’t include electric costs, tires, etc for the Tesla, but whatever.


all that to be said, I’d be interested in what the cost factor of ‘free’ scheduled maintenance would be on a vehicle and manufacturer that offers it compared to a vehicle that doesn’t when you put the vehicle cost into the equation.

for instance, if there are comparable vehicles (Telly vs [Highlander]), what’s the purchase point and the expected maintenance cost annually for each vehicle divided by the amount of years offered of free service for the [Highlander].
which vehicle is the better value? Is the x years of free maint and app usage just to get you in the door? Is it bundled in the OTD price of the vehicle? Is it offered because the vehicle isn’t selling? This kind of stuff interests me.
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I currently own a 2018 Audi A5 Sportback and a 2018 VW GTI which I have no membership concerns with. I guess I'll have to see exactly what I need at this point.
Looks like Audi has Audi Connect and VW has VW Car-Net that offer similar services.

If you didn’t think those services were worth it on your current cars, UVO likely won’t be any different if you get a Telluride. It’s not any more or less of a “petty” charge than what you have available to you now.
 
though I don’t have one yet, I’ve been interested in the statistical valuation and cost break out of (things). This gets off topic, but a coworker of mine bought an EV Tesla model S For X price Recently. I’ve had countless discussions with him about the expected break even point with buying I’ve had countless discussions with him about the expected break even point with buying an GDI SUV such as this. Of course, there’s a lot that goes into this evaluation and you’re comparing apples to oranges, but it interests me. My beer math suggested that his $65k no maint sans tires EV vs my $40k SUV would be a break even delta of 7-9 years. This was calculated off of a cost of sticker estimated $1750 for fuel + estimated monthly maint cost (found in a blog) of ($156x12) $1872 (round down to an annual maint cost of $1750 for easy math)
$65k - $40k = $25k / $3500 annual cost to drive = ~7 yrs.
of course, that didn’t include electric costs, tires, etc for the Tesla, but whatever.


all that to be said, I’d be interested in what the cost factor of ‘free’ scheduled maintenance would be on a vehicle and manufacturer that offers it compared to a vehicle that doesn’t when you put the vehicle cost into the equation.

for instance, if there are comparable vehicles (Telly vs [Highlander]), what’s the purchase point and the expected maintenance cost annually for each vehicle divided by the amount of years offered of free service for the [Highlander].
which vehicle is the better value? Is the x years of free maint and app usage just to get you in the door? Is it bundled in the OTD price of the vehicle? Is it offered because the vehicle isn’t selling? This kind of stuff interests me.
I agree it's interesting. The one thing that you can't quantify is the riding, handling and aesthetic pleasure of the vehicle. This is where the "tire meets the road" as a car enthusiast would say. That's usually the "hook" and I believe that KIA certainly has that from the various auto reviews I have read. For example, the Telluride in Edmunds review of 3 row SUVs was the No. 1 rated vehicle. The Highlander...a distant No. 11.
 
Looks like Audi has Audi Connect and VW has VW Car-Net that offer similar services.

If you didn’t think those services were worth it on your current cars, UVO likely won’t be any different if you get a Telluride. It’s not any more or less of a “petty” charge than what you have available to you now.
But you don't need to purchase them. I still have the necessary audio, etc functions without them.
 
It's pretty much the same with the UVO. You really don't lose much other than the emergency service and POI stuff on the navigation.
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But you don't need to purchase them. I still have the necessary audio, etc functions without them.

Lol, show me a car that makes you pay subscription to use the radio. It ain’t the Telluride.
 
But you don't need to purchase them. I still have the necessary audio, etc functions without them.

As others have said - you don't have to have UVO to use the radio or navigation. Just about every auto maker has a subscription service these days. It is common place and adds some additional functionality - but doesn't remove key and essential functionality if you don't want it. About the only downside to UVO is on the 2020 models - where you would lose remote start. For the 2021 - that no longer applies.
 
The build quality is just rubbish, here it is in detail and with pictures:
 
@Kwim, without a doubt you have got to be one of the most negative people on this forum. I’ve had discussions with you in the past about things, I.e, your inability to recognize that that you spend a lot of money on your rides


As others point out, I don’t think anything can satisfy your need to troll and hate on this vehicle, regardless of your most recent purchase. Seriously man, love it/hate it, I don’t care but shut up about it.

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I’ve had discussions with you in the past about things, I.e, your inability to recognize that that you spend a lot of money on your rides
So what? I gave the calculations and asked you to show in numbers, where are the numbers? It was just chatter from you, without specific arguments.


@Kwim, without a doubt you have got to be one of the most negative people on this forum. I’ve had discussions with you in the past about things. As others point out, I don’t think anything can satisfy your need to troll and hate on this vehicle, regardless of your most recent purchase. Seriously man, love it/hate it, I don’t care but shut up about it.
I don’t make a sacred cow out of the car, I don’t pray for it. I also believe that regardless of the cost of the car, the build quality should not suffer. I am an aircraft engine engineer: do you and your loved ones want to fly an airplane if I do my job as poorly as the guys are building my car?


I'll figure it out myself, without your advice.
Don't like it - don't read it, or put me on a black list.
 
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I'll figure it out myself, without your advice.
Don't like it - don't read it, or put me on a black list.

same could be said about you not liking the vehicle - be happy with it or get rid of it.

(trophy awarded for receiving my first ‘angry’ emoji)
you do you, guy
 
Not really a thing but

still a thing. The Hood comes up over the cowl so far you cannot lift the windshield wiper arms! Long time since I have encountered this and for those in a snowy climate could be really tough situation to manage.

Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned yet.
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Not really a thing but

still a thing. The Hood comes up over the cowl so far you cannot lift the windshield wiper arms! Long time since I have encountered this and for those in a snowy climate could be really tough situation to manage.

Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned yet.

There's a "service position" procedure in your manual to lift the arms. Relatively common on new vehicles. My old Acura even had this back in 2005!
 
I currently own a 2018 Audi A5 Sportback and a 2018 VW GTI which I have no membership concerns with. I guess I'll have to see exactly what I need at this point.

That’s funny. I’m trading in my ‘18 A5 Sportback for the Telly. I love the way the car rides, but with a 14 year old and 11 year old, I just went smaller too soon.

But how about those awful cup holders?!!! What engineer came up with that design? Almost like they forgot them and added them at the last second. I’ll never overlook the placement of cup holders again
 
Proof that Kwim has a heart for the Telluride guys.

guys,
Kia has released a great car and to beat competitors at a price they have to squeeze somewhere, save. Here is a striking example - thin aluminum that easily breaks through. As long as the Kia decides, install the mesh in the radiator grill to protect it.

something like this:

or - https://www.drive2.ru/b/477743300900552869/
 
Rain sensing wipers. Rained on Monday. Driving yesterday, not a cloud in the sky and everything was dry. On my way home from the store - probably 15 miles into the trip - wipers came on. Ugghhhhhh.
 




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