Failcat down?

[cyrdog]

Service down during switchover to 2024?

 

[JustBrowsing]

Service down during switchover to 2024?

No. It was down before that but came back up but maybe it's back up now. Since there are no dates, we'll have to wait until tomorrow and compare to today to see if there's any new data.

Although they are switching over, the "type" of data shouldn't change so it shouldn't have an impact. The values and translations may need to be updated for 2024.

How long does it take to go from vin registered to on the delivery truck?

 

[tellurideinvt]

I added dates, finally.
My life has been a weird turn of events and this got massively de-prioritized.
That said, I think we might be to the end of the vins for this year. I think someone is supposed to whisper in my ear when the new vins start coming out, but I have not had success scraping any for some time, and i had it scrape pretty far ahead.
if anyone is aware of a vin with last 6 digits higher than one on the site, please let me know.
To be clear, the scraping is janky af; i have put various checks and pauses and stuff but they massively rate limit and instead of sending errors they send "successful responses" that have pdfs with errors inside of them.

Some of the code has logic to check for it, but not all of it. also, the sort of 'algorithm' for searching through history for times when the scraper got rate limited or something like that is incredibly inefficient. solutions to all of it, its just a matter of time/value.
One thing that would be relatively easy to do would be to just create a form that allows you to enter a serial number for a missing vin (or one in the "future") and scrape for it "right now". that would allow anyone sort of waiting or impatient to actively check against the real source of truth; as failcat is really nothing more than a cache of a bunch of scraping attempts, the vast majority of which are unsuccessful at this point because i am continually retrying the same vins that kia has returned errors for since the first time it got scraped.

 

[JustBrowsing]

I added dates, finally.
My life has been a weird turn of events and this got massively de-prioritized.
That said, I think we might be to the end of the vins for this year. I think someone is supposed to whisper in my ear when the new vins start coming out, but I have not had success scraping any for some time, and i had it scrape pretty far ahead.
if anyone is aware of a vin with last 6 digits higher than one on the site, please let me know.
To be clear, the scraping is janky af; i have put various checks and pauses and stuff but they massively rate limit and instead of sending errors they send "successful responses" that have pdfs with errors inside of them.

Some of the code has logic to check for it, but not all of it. also, the sort of 'algorithm' for searching through history for times when the scraper got rate limited or something like that is incredibly inefficient. solutions to all of it, its just a matter of time/value.
One thing that would be relatively easy to do would be to just create a form that allows you to enter a serial number for a missing vin (or one in the "future") and scrape for it "right now". that would allow anyone sort of waiting or impatient to actively check against the real source of truth; as failcat is really nothing more than a cache of a bunch of scraping attempts, the vast majority of which are unsuccessful at this point because i am continually retrying the same vins that kia has returned errors for since the first time it got scraped.

AWESOME!

Really. I don't know about others but I really do appreciate it. It helped me get my '22 and now my '24.

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[tellurideinvt]

someone did whisper in my ear, and now 2024 are scraping.

backend here: GitHub - gdoteof/failcat_rust
frontend here: GitHub - gdoteof/failcat-frontend

pull requests welcome ;-)

 

[JustBrowsing]

someone did whisper in my ear, and now 2024 are scraping.

backend here: GitHub - gdoteof/failcat_rust
frontend here: GitHub - gdoteof/failcat-frontend

pull requests welcome ;-)

There are quite a few 2024s but no X-Line at all. Is that a bit odd?

It may just be me, but could you reverse the Next and Previous so that Next is more like going forward? No rush.

 

[tellurideinvt]

There are quite a few 2024s but no X-Line at all. Is that a bit odd?

It may just be me, but could you reverse the Next and Previous so that Next is more like going forward? No rush.

idk what we know about 2024 tbh. do we even know if there is an xline? given its so early in production they may be waiting on a part or osmething too.
i updated the next/prev buttons to be slightly less shitty

 

[rcoplien]

Is there a way to sort the list by dealers? I liked that you could type in the dealer code before and it would come up with just their lists.

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[Ripple]

Is there a way to sort the list by dealers? I liked that you could type in the dealer code before and it would come up with just their lists.

Click on the dealer code.

 

[5uppr3553d]

It looks like it stopped scraping or stopped updating as there are a few VINs in the 413 and 414 range but it stops at 412.

 

[JustBrowsing]

This probably has nothing to do with the site or code but what does it mean when a serial number or vin is skipped? Does it mean that vehicle had issues? I would think the vins and serial numbers would be created before the vehicle was created, right? Just curious. Example.

 

[JustBrowsing]

idk what we know about 2024 tbh. do we even know if there is an xline? given its so early in production they may be waiting on a part or osmething too.
i updated the next/prev buttons to be slightly less shitty

I was told by one of the dealers I'm working with that my specific vehicle is due to be delivered 8/11 and it is black/terracotta sx prestige x-line. If he told me this 2 weeks ago, I would've thought there would be a vin for it but I don't know how long it takes from vin creation to vehicle delivery. 60 days isn't a long time to wait but to me it seems like a long time to build and validate a vehicle BUT... I've never worked an automotive assembly line. I worked one where we built office phones but that only took a few minutes (more than a few, less than an hour).

Maybe since X-Line and X-Pro were in such demand, maybe they want to get the lower trims on the lot first to draw some interest?

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[JustBrowsing]

I was told by one of the dealers I'm working with that my specific vehicle is due to be delivered 8/11 and it is black/terracotta sx prestige x-line. If he told me this 2 weeks ago, I would've thought there would be a vin for it but I don't know how long it takes from vin creation to vehicle delivery. 60 days isn't a long time to wait but to me it seems like a long time to build and validate a vehicle BUT... I've never worked an automotive assembly line. I worked one where we built office phones but that only took a few minutes (more than a few, less than an hour).

Maybe since X-Line and X-Pro were in such demand, maybe they want to get the lower trims on the lot first to draw some interest?

Oddly enough, they haven't updated the site yet. 2023 Kia Telluride | Mid-Size SUV - Pricing & Features | Kia still has the '23. And Montros Kia got the first 2024 according to the site but it isn't on their page yet. Costal Kia has 12 '24 showing on their page with prices and vins but no images. I did get this from their site:
5XYP5DGC8RG410009 2024 TELLURIDE SX-PRESTIGE X-PRO V6 AWD.

 

[HOOLIE1223]

No. It was down before that but came back up but maybe it's back up now. Since there are no dates, we'll have to wait until tomorrow and compare to today to see if there's any new data.

Although they are switching over, the "type" of data shouldn't change so it shouldn't have an impact. The values and translations may need to be updated for 2024.

How long does it take to go from vin registered to on the delivery truck?

My VIN has a date of 5/27/23, and it was delivered to the dealer

No. It was down before that but came back up but maybe it's back up now. Since there are no dates, we'll have to wait until tomorrow and compare to today to see if there's any new data.

Although they are switching over, the "type" of data shouldn't change so it shouldn't have an impact. The values and translations may need to be updated for 2024.

How long does it take to go from vin registered to on the delivery truck?

My VIN scrape date is 5/27, and it was at the dealer in Central Illinois 6/9…..picking it up tomorrow!!

 

[JustBrowsing]

My VIN has a date of 5/27/23, and it was delivered to the dealer

My VIN scrape date is 5/27, and it was at the dealer in Central Illinois 6/9…..picking it up tomorrow!!

That could be due to the date that he scraped and not the date it actually registered in the system. I think now the app is capturing new vins as they are added so the time from scrape to dealer may be more accurate. But, it could have been scraping efficiently on 5/27. Does this mean, giving 4 days for travel, it takes 9 days to go from registered vin to transport truck?

 

[tellurideinvt]

> I think now the app is capturing new vins as they are added
not quite. The app is still just a hand-spun set of scripts which get turned on and off manually to avoid getting perma banned. When you see things stop updating (I am sorry to say) it is mostly just this individual human being distracted and not noticing the script breaking, or not running it. Recently, I got information on the 2024 vins, so I added that to the app, and was able to scrape a bunch quickly and catch up.
you are right that recently, this individual human has been more tuned into this app and keeping a better eye on it, and the data is actually much closer to real time as a result.
part of what i am working on outside this site, is a more general platform for orchestrating these type things, so it can be smarter about adopting the scraping strategy to the way the data actually comes out: in batches of dozens to hundreds at once usually.
some vins are weird, they will be not found or give back off limits no matter what for some time, and then later an old vin will show up. but, the scraper is even worse at searching the the 'unknown past' than the 'unknown future'

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[JustBrowsing]

> I think now the app is capturing new vins as they are added
not quite. The app is still just a hand-spun set of scripts which get turned on and off manually to avoid getting perma banned. When you see things stop updating (I am sorry to say) it is mostly just this individual human being distracted and not noticing the script breaking, or not running it. Recently, I got information on the 2024 vins, so I added that to the app, and was able to scrape a bunch quickly and catch up.
you are right that recently, this individual human has been more tuned into this app and keeping a better eye on it, and the data is actually much closer to real time as a result.
part of what i am working on outside this site, is a more general platform for orchestrating these type things, so it can be smarter about adopting the scraping strategy to the way the data actually comes out: in batches of dozens to hundreds at once usually.
some vins are weird, they will be not found or give back off limits no matter what for some time, and then later an old vin will show up. but, the scraper is even worse at searching the the 'unknown past' than the 'unknown future'

Am I the only one that thinks of "Lost" after reading this. If I hadn't just watched it last year for the 3rd time, I'd watch it again.

Oh yeah. The last scrape was 2023-06-17 03:27.

 

[JustBrowsing]

Am I the only one that thinks of "Lost" after reading this. If I hadn't just watched it last year for the 3rd time, I'd watch it again.

Oh yeah. The last scrape was 2023-06-17 03:27.

'24 SX Prestige X-Pro

 

[greyedge]

I just got an email from Arapahoe KIA about my order, which is a 2024. The VIN he gave me doesn't align with the current series of numbers: 0010306959. He also gave me these dates:

Prod. Schedule: 6/20/2023
Body In: 6/20/2023
Paint In: 6/20/2023
Trim In: 6/21/2023
Production Completed: 6/24/2023
Final Inspection: 6/26/2023
Tendered Not Shipped: 7/7/2023
Shipment Out: 7/12/2023
Delivery Completion: 8/16/2023

 

[rcoplien]

Is there a way to sort the list by dealers? I liked that you could type in the dealer code before and it would come up with just their lists.

But it won't jump the dealer code I want to see. I want to see IA013 like we used to do.