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Failcat down?

I just got an email from Arapahoe KIA about my order, which is a 2024. The VIN he gave me doesn't align with the current series of numbers: 0010306959. He also gave me these dates:

Prod. Schedule: 6/20/2023
Body In: 6/20/2023
Paint In: 6/20/2023
Trim In: 6/21/2023
Production Completed: 6/24/2023
Final Inspection: 6/26/2023
Tendered Not Shipped: 7/7/2023
Shipment Out: 7/12/2023
Delivery Completion: 8/16/2023
That's because that's a Sportage vin.

Just kidding. Maybe that is his invoice number or something bc you're right, it's nothing like the current vins. Good to know schedule though. Thanks for sharing. I wonder why the 5 day wait to ship and the 35 day shipping schedule. I could drive coast to coast 12 times in 35 days.
 
I just got an email from Arapahoe KIA about my order, which is a 2024. The VIN he gave me doesn't align with the current series of numbers: 0010306959. He also gave me these dates:

Prod. Schedule: 6/20/2023
Body In: 6/20/2023
Paint In: 6/20/2023
Trim In: 6/21/2023
Production Completed: 6/24/2023
Final Inspection: 6/26/2023
Tendered Not Shipped: 7/7/2023
Shipment Out: 7/12/2023
Delivery Completion: 8/16/2023
That's because that's a Sportage vin.

Just kidding. Maybe that is his invoice number or something bc you're right, it's nothing like the current vins. Good to know schedule though. Thanks for sharing. I wonder why the 5 day wait to ship and the 35 day shipping schedule. I could drive coast to coast 12 times in 35 days.
 
I just got an email from Arapahoe KIA about my order, which is a 2024. The VIN he gave me doesn't align with the current series of numbers: 0010306959. He also gave me these dates:

Prod. Schedule: 6/20/2023
Body In: 6/20/2023
Paint In: 6/20/2023
Trim In: 6/21/2023
Production Completed: 6/24/2023
Final Inspection: 6/26/2023
Tendered Not Shipped: 7/7/2023
Shipment Out: 7/12/2023
Delivery Completion: 8/16/2023
A VIN is not created until paint.
 
Looks like failcat is pretty up to date. Seeing very little SX XLines, anyone have an idea why this trim is not getting manufacturing love?
 
Looks like failcat is pretty up to date. Seeing very little SX XLines, anyone have an idea why this trim is not getting manufacturing love?
I was wondering the same. Maybe they had a bunch of orders for the less cost '23 that they didn't get filled so they decided to push them first. All I know is my SX P X-Line is in the works so I'm happy.
 
This probably has nothing to do with the site or code but what does it mean when a serial number or vin is skipped? Does it mean that vehicle had issues? I would think the vins and serial numbers would be created before the vehicle was created, right? Just curious. Example.

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This simply means the scraper was not able to find something there. Basically the way it works is that we know through convention what the serial numbers are going to be; so we can generate all the possible VIN combinations; we then beat the crap out of kia's website looking for those vin combinations. If we find one, we download the pdf, extract the info.

Sometimes it's just a fluke, and the scraper will get temporarily banned and skip over that spot; sometimes for some reason the same serial numbers just never get a vin. i have thought a lot about why, but I don't know. my guess is that something goes awry in production, or, they are only in the database until some transaction happens and then they get removed.

i have been thinking also about how to expose the UI for this; but you can manually trigger a scrape attempt for a given serial by visiting this url: https://failcat-rust.vteng.io/scrape/<some_six_digit_serial>

the scraper itself is just a simple script, if you want to contribute to the cause :)
Code:
sleep 1.5
UP_FROM=412780
i=$(($UP_FROM+1))
echo "Attempting to scrape $i";
while time curl https://failcat-rust.vteng.io/scrape/$i;
        sleep 6 && echo;
        do echo;
        i=$(($i+1))
        echo "Attempting to scrape $i";
done

so, for example, if you wanted to trigger the scraper for 413852 you could visit https://failcat-rust.vteng.io/scrape/413852 and that will

- generate all possible vins for that serial
- try each in a series to see if a pdf is available
- save to database if it is

if you see a number response, it was successful. if you see 'null' it means we generated all possible vins successfully, and tried all the vins successfully, but none were available.
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Did you find an answer to this? Mine is one that's missing in a string too View attachment 30804
The scraper has found "missing" vins. You can see the date scraped. Guess it was a code issue. I'm sure they didn't make over 2k in a day and if you go back to to 6/17 you can see vins in sequence but dates out of sequence.
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On a mobile it could look better. The colors on the details don't take into account the options (terracotta & sage). It is the same as on a dealers site so I guess it's fine but it doesn't give the true interior. It's a nice feature still.
 

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Is it possible to get a grouping by state? If there were a way to view all MD... VA... NJ..., etc.
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On a mobile it could look better. The colors on the details don't take into account the options (terracotta & sage). It is the same as on a dealers site so I guess it's fine but it doesn't give the true interior. It's a nice feature still.
I didn't click on the dealer previously. NICE! That is a great feature. Great job!
 
I didn't click on the dealer previously. NICE! That is a great feature. Great job!
When viewing the dealer's inventory, we can't tell which year it is.
when on the dealers inventory, when clicking the back button, it doesn't take me back the main page. And if I click back 2x then it still remains on that page but I can't go back any further.

Done commenting.
 
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On the details and dealer's page, can you put a link to the sticker? The scrape date on that page would help also. The image is nice but the list provided more information.
 
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Nice feature to allow filtering by trim but it doesn't filter out all and list only what you want, it filters that specific page. So if you have it set to 25 and there are 2 that match, it will only show the two from that page, it doesn't show the next 25 that match.
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Maybe adding the exterior color name on this page too. I can tell the white is white but you can't tell Jungle Green from Dark Moss and Wolf Grey from Everlasting Silver (if that is still an option).

Opt Code
10 = Black
12 = Terracotta
14 = Sage Green

A filter on that would be great (for me). I'm going to call every dealership in MD and VA and see if they have markups but I'm only going to focus on the dealerships that have the vehicle that I want [first], Ebony Black SX Prestige X-Line with Terracotta. I'll update my list on my other post with that info.
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Do they shut the plant down the week of July 4 or is the site not grabbing the data?
 
I know failcat is run voluntarily, and I appreciate all the hard work put into it

But will the VINs be updated anytime soon? It’s been about 2 weeks since the last scrape.

Thanks for keeping the site up and running!
 




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