How come COVID-19 has ZERO effect on the Tellmeride?

[Tellmeride]

How come COVID-19 has ZERO effect on the Tellmeride?

 

[westcoastTelly]

How come COVID-19 has ZERO effect on the Tellmeride?

because it is a BS Plandemic , go look even the US CDC is stating that only .26% of infected people die , that the Flu ! These guys are in so deep on this shut down they don't know how to back out of it ....................Go Live your life........................this is a NOTHING burger .

 

[Kirbo]

because it is a BS Plandemic , go look even the US CDC is stating that only .26% of infected people die , that the Flu ! These guys are in so deep on this shut down they don't know how to back out of it ....................Go Live your life........................this is a NOTHING burger .

Can you point me to where you get this number? When I go to the CDC and do the math, using their numbers I'm seeing a death rate of 5.6% which is HUGELY higher than your 1/4 of a percent rate. I used their numbers I found here.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Thank you for any help you can give me on where you find your information, I appreciate it.

 

[Nas4atu10]

Can you point me to where you get this number? When I go to the CDC and do the math, using their numbers I'm seeing a death rate of 5.6% which is HUGELY higher than your 1/4 of a percent rate. I used their numbers I found here.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Thank you for any help you can give me on where you find your information, I appreciate it.

This article discusses that number. Short story: it’s an educated guess, not an actual hard number. Still PLENTY of unknowns about this.

Fact check: CDC's estimates COVID-19 death rate around 0.26%, doesn't confirm it

Current CDC estimates put the "best estimate" for COVID-19 at 0.26%. The claim that CDC confirmed the coronavirus death rate is partly false.

www.usatoday.com

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[Kirbo]

This article discusses that number. Short story: it’s an educated guess, not an actual hard number. Still PLENTY of unknowns about this.

Fact check: CDC's estimates COVID-19 death rate around 0.26%, doesn't confirm it

Current CDC estimates put the "best estimate" for COVID-19 at 0.26%. The claim that CDC confirmed the coronavirus death rate is partly false.

www.usatoday.com

Thanks for the link. So they have NOT confirmed that and that's their best case scenario guess (and I'd bet hope).

When you look at the average deaths each year, they're ridiculously higher now than in past years, so it's clearly far deadlier than the flu. They think it's far more contagious than the flu as well. That's what scares all of us so much about this pandemic. The flu infects far fewer people and we have vaccines for it (though those aren't 100% accurate).

 

[westcoastTelly]

the CDC usually provide conservative side of estimates which is where they were earlier on , this is a significant reduced position. so even it it is .40 , is that anywhere close to causing the need to shut down our countries especially when the cases can be isolated to a tight demo ?? see the attached Forbes article , 600 Med Docs pushing to relax this shutdown because this "cure" is so much worse than the disease ..........................https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/#fe6339e50fa5

 

[Nas4atu10]

the CDC usually provide conservative side of estimates which is where they were earlier on , this is a significant reduced position. so even it it is .40 , is that anywhere close to causing the need to shut down our countries especially when the cases can be isolated to a tight demo ?? see the attached Forbes article , 600 Med Docs pushing to relax this shutdown because this "cure" is so much worse than the disease ..........................https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/#fe6339e50fa5

Take a look outside, does it look like anyone is trying to contain this? And that’s with restrictions still I place. And yes, I’d almost half of those who catch COVID die, that’s an issue, especially considering there’s no vaccine for it, nor confirmed antibodies that are created if you catch it. And I’m sorry, but is NYC and other big cities a “tight demo “? This is effecting people of all ages. Asymptotic people are cause for major concern as well.

 

[Kirbo]

the CDC usually provide conservative side of estimates which is where they were earlier on , this is a significant reduced position. so even it it is .40 , is that anywhere close to causing the need to shut down our countries especially when the cases can be isolated to a tight demo ?? see the attached Forbes article , 600 Med Docs pushing to relax this shutdown because this "cure" is so much worse than the disease ..........................https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/#fe6339e50fa5

I do think it's been very difficult having everything shut down and I know there's been a horrible toll outside of just the disease itself, but .4% is four times higher than the .1% attributed to the flu. Especially when you realize that the .1% of people that get the flu are estimated to die of it but we have a large portion of the population that is immune to it and get vaccines, so .1% isn't of the entire population, it's just of the people that actually get the flu. We don't have that with COVID. Nobody is immune and we have no vaccine. Even if half the population doesn't show symptoms (they aren't immune, they are still able to get it and be carriers and give it to others), there's still a death rate of .4%. If .4% of 300 million people die from it, that's 1.2 million deaths. That's ENORMOUS.

In the 2017/2018 year, it is estimated that 79,400 people died from the flu in the US. So far just this year we've had 117,832 deaths in the US from COVID. That's a considerable difference. And heard immunity doesn't even happen until at least 60% of a population gets it and has antibodies to it (which we don't know if that will happen, the antibodies that protect us, but we hope it will happen). We have about 328.2 million people in the US. Sixty percent of that is 196,920.000. So to get heard immunity, if those folks all have to get it, with a death rate of .4%, you're looking at 787,680 deaths. I think that's a lot of deaths.

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[Tellthemride]

This

Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 Forum

Forum for discussing the Novel Coronavirus, AKA COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, 2019 Novel Coronavirus, nCov

tellurideforum.org

 

[blitt]

It is unfortunate when any good conversation about cars, weather, nature or whatever the forum is turns to the "politics of the pandemic" or the "politics of the politics!" JMO

 

[Kirbo]

It is unfortunate when any good conversation about cars, weather, nature or whatever the forum is turns to the "politics of the pandemic" or the "politics of the politics!" JMO

Apologies. When westcoasttelly threw in statistics that I'd never heard before I had to find out where he was pulling his numbers from.

ETA and I didn't realize that discussing health and safety was considered talking politics. My bad.

 

[Nas4atu10]

Apologies. When westcoasttelly threw in statistics that I'd never heard before I had to find out where he was pulling his numbers from.

ETA and I didn't realize that discussing health and safety was considered talking politics. My bad.

Agreed. Sorry everyone, that’ll be the last I speak of it!

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[blitt]

.....and on we go , enjoy your car ( any and all!) , and enjoy the moment.....the future is unknown! That said, forums like this make "the moment" very enjoyable! cheers!

 

[Philmed1]

Are other posts being hijacked by Covid conspiracies or am I the lucky newb?

 

[westcoastTelly]

Are other posts being hijacked by Covid conspiracies or am I the lucky newb?

Sal started a Thread for this discussion . I 'm happy to continue over there , there is a lot of significant data available to review which supports the "overblown" response to Covid 19

 

[jw_tx21]

Are other posts being hijacked by Covid conspiracies or am I the lucky newb?

Because someone asked a random inane question about COVID and Telluride demand. It should have been discussed in the appropriate thread, but it wasn't. That person who asked the question is a long time member and should have been able to answer this question. Probably intended to ask it rhetorically... but doesn't work online.

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[Zulyish]

I think the original question re:Telluride and COVID-19 was more about supply/demand and how this model is holding up it's value. Who knows, I could be way off

 

[Tellmeride]

Yes sir. With Hertz going bankrupt and a shitload of cheap lightly used cars hitting the market, I am very surprised all this have zero affect on the tellmeride. That's what I was wondering.

 

[westcoastTelly]

Take a look outside, does it look like anyone is trying to contain this? And that’s with restrictions still I place. And yes, I’d almost half of those who catch COVID die, that’s an issue, especially considering there’s no vaccine for it, nor confirmed antibodies that are created if you catch it. And I’m sorry, but is NYC and other big cities a “tight demo “? This is effecting people of all ages. Asymptotic people are cause for major concern as well.

some targeting strategies around senior care homes would be a good place to start , cases in Canada have an 82% death rate in these homes , the data is collected differently in the US , deaths including other mortality factors have been lumped but the best estimates suggest over 50% of US Covid 19 cases were in senior care homes , that's 1 pretty tight demo inho ...........................add age , underlying health issues etc and you can get to a much higher % pretty quickly , and the Flu vaccines ?? we have had these vaccines since the 1930's and even the CDC says best guess is they are about 50 % effective ..........................unbiased science would suggest 50% is seriously overstating this .......................so when the BIG PHARMA starts touting they have a vaccine in the next few months ??? Hell , they are even exempt from liability if harm or death is caused from a CDC approved vaccine ............

 

[BadRabbit]

No effect, because all 90% of Tellurides were already reserved before COVID hit, and the majority of people buying are those with jobs that were thankfully not furloughed due to the pandemic. There are a few on this forum who sadly had to cancel their orders because of COVID, but with how in demand the car is, and the low availability. I don't know the exact number but I thought I read somewhere it was less than 60,000 produced for US market for 2020. 2021 production is being ramped up to 100,000.

I luckily only know a few people who were furloughed or laid off during this pandemic. One who was laid off worked for a company that supplies uniforms and schools in the Dallas area, others were hospitality employees. Thankfully my brother in law (GM of a D&B) and good friend (GM of a hotel) were not affected, I know they had to furlough 90% of their staff though, sadly.

To anyone who thinks its a fake pandemic, I'm glad every country in the world decided to collude together to make a fake pandemic. It's real, it's deadly, and if we would have just shut down hardcore for two weeks, and scary part, shut our borders down completely until the world has it under control, it would be under control. It's here to stay thanks to the slow response and will be around for years to come until a vaccine can be introduced.