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If you purchased the Tow Package please read this . . .

I think it’s very much relative to your load and how long you are towing for. To me the frame is less of a concern if the suspension is getting crushed and exceeding the maximums for the rear axle. If you are dragging so much that the rear of the Telluride breaks an axle, then the axle and suspension are going to give out well before you see a problem with the frame.

The way I see it we have to take Kia at it’s word that the unibody frame can handle 5,000 lbs. But you don’t have to be an engineer to see that weight distribution helps take off load from the rear axle and that makes it safer. A level load front to back helps braking and handling. Just think of a popsicle stick and three fingers applying pressure equally, it’s less likely to break. Then apply the most pressure in the middle and it will snap or at the very least the ends will start to come up. When the trailer axle and front axle aren’t taking more load evenly then you lose traction.

I guess my point is with no WDH you risk a broken rear axle, damaged suspension, or an accident where you are liable well before you should expect any long term damage to the frame. Any guidance to not use a WDH not from Kia is suspect and could be anecdotal or using old guidance from the early days of smaller unibody crossovers.

Despite all other factors, the awards and Kia heavy lean on marketing, with or without WDH, if I were towing anything close to an enclosed double axle horse trailer with one horse, (like the ads suggest) on a regular basis, I would be looking for a larger vehicle. Pushing the limits of any towing specs on a regular basis can lead to disastrous and life threatening consequences that I’m not willing to gamble with.
We have a Böckmann Portax K, a German manufactured horse trailer that is designed for Europe and to be pulled by a mid-sized SUV. It is lightweight and well balanced. It is designed to keep the horses positioned over the axles. We don't plan on frequent or long trips with it, so expect the experience to be good.
 
We have a Böckmann Portax K, a German manufactured horse trailer that is designed for Europe and to be pulled by a mid-sized SUV. It is lightweight and well balanced. It is designed to keep the horses positioned over the axles. We don't plan on frequent or long trips with it, so expect the experience to be good.
Awesome thank you for sharing, this does add some perspective. So that trailer has a loaded tongue weight of 211 which tells me it is designed to not require weight distribution as it probably assumes the horse(s) are standing. And an empty weight of 2,430lbs. So you should be able to pull with two horses averaging 1,200 lbs each? Then about 1,000lbs of passengers and cargo in the Telluride. Does your horse trailer have electric brakes? I’m just trying to figure out the fineprint from Kia that suggests aftermarket equipment was required why they were towing. Since I know nothing about horse trailers this is particularly informative to me.
 
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Awesome thank you for sharing, this does add some perspective. So that trailer has a loaded tongue weight of 211 which tells me it is designed to not require weight distribution as it probably assumes the horse(s) are standing. And an empty weight of 2,430lbs. So you should be able to pull with two horses averaging 1,200 lbs each? Then about 1,000lbs of passengers and cargo in the Telluride. Does your horse trailer have electric brakes? I’m just trying to figure out the fine print from Kia that suggest aftermarket equipment was required why they were towing. Since I know nothing about horse trailers this is particularly informative to me.
Nevermind, I see that the trailer has what appears to be something like mechanical surge brakes so you can tow it with a 4-pin flat connection.

So this does provide some clarity in that the original tow option on the 2020 with 4-pin could technically tow this configuration with no brake controller. But the brochure picture with the trailer had fineprint suggesting that aftermarket parts were needed. So I’m wondering if you see the hitch as level when you tow with horses or if Kia used an airbag system on that photoshoot. If the hitch weight only adds 211lbs then I doubt you will see a drop. I still wonder why Kia added the note unless it was just boilerplate stuff.
 
We have a Böckmann Portax K, a German manufactured horse trailer that is designed for Europe and to be pulled by a mid-sized SUV. It is lightweight and well balanced. It is designed to keep the horses positioned over the axles. We don't plan on frequent or long trips with it, so expect the experience to be good.
That's it. I'm moving to Spearfish and getting a horse or two. Thanks for the info.
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I still wonder why Kia added the note unless it was just boilerplate stuff.
At the very least, did not come with the ball; but, really it's CYA...
 
How does the tow package with the self leveling shocks work with a weight distributing system towing a dual axle 4000 lb. Camper?
Can you disable the self leveling shocks on the Telly?
 
How does the tow package with the self leveling shocks work with a weight distributing system towing a dual axle 4000 lb. Camper?
Can you disable the self leveling shocks on the Telly?
This may help:


You can’t disable them.
 
So here is my question . I ordered mine with the self leveling Tow package and it will not be in for almost 90 days. The dealer has one coming in by the end of the month with everything else I requested but not the tow package. Am I better off grabbing this one coming in and putting an after market hitch or waiting for the one I ordered with the tow package? Also, anyone have the Wolf grey SX NF with black interior?
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So here is my question . I ordered mine with the self leveling Tow package and it will not be in for almost 90 days. The dealer has one coming in by the end of the month with everything else I requested but not the tow package. Am I better off grabbing this one coming in and putting an after market hitch or waiting for the one I ordered with the tow package? Also, anyone have the Wolf grey SX NF with black interior?
If everything else is what you want and I was in your shoes, I would not hesitate to get the one without the more expensive shocks. (Without the tow package) Then I would buy a hitch after the fact. It doesn’t have to be the aftermarket option. You can buy all the parts for the Kia tow option hitch. (Tow option not tow package). You won’t lose any towing capability. If you feel you need better suspension, in a few months there will be better after market shock options you can buy.
 
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So here is my question . I ordered mine with the self leveling Tow package and it will not be in for almost 90 days. The dealer has one coming in by the end of the month with everything else I requested but not the tow package. Am I better off grabbing this one coming in and putting an after market hitch or waiting for the one I ordered with the tow package? Also, anyone have the Wolf grey SX NF with black interior?
Unless you really need the new vehicle, wait the 90 days. Adding the hitch later will be a pain and cost more money. You also won’t get the self leveling shocks.
 
Unless you really need the new vehicle, wait the 90 days. Adding the hitch later will be a pain and cost more money. You also won’t get the self leveling shocks.
If you read this and many other threads you will see that the self leveling shocks are not really a towing benefit. Adding the hitch is a 30 min self install and you can buy all three Kia parts for the Tow Option very easily. For the 2021 you can get the 7-pin harness (S9F61-AU000 + S9F67-AC500 + S9F61-AU060)*. If you bought the parts online or from Kia any trailer dealer would probably install it for a small fee or you could negotiate it with the Kia dealer. A bird in the hand is worth waiting 90 days IMO. All in you will be looking at $500-600 for the Kia Tow Option as an add on and you won’t be stuck with the self leveling shocks in the future that are more costly to replace and may not last as long. If you can negotiate the tow option at vehicle purchase for $475 with install that’s a good deal.

$320 more to go from the tow option to the tow “package” looks like a deal. But if you don’t like the feel and look with the self leveling shocks or they fail out of warranty prematurely, you will spend more than $320 to have to replace with the same thing. Whereas standard shocks give you the flexibility to upgrade with less expensive performance shocks and even add an air bag system if you decide later on. The point is, you have options.

*If adding to a 2020, just get S9F61-AU000 + S9F61-AU060 and an aftermarket harness.
 
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I posted about installing a KIA OE hitch a few months ago. It takes a around an hour, don't need a lift or even jack stands, and it is 100% as it would be delivered for the cost of $450.
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If you read this and many other threads you will see that the self leveling shocks are not really a towing benefit. Adding the hitch is a 30 min self install and you can buy all three Kia parts for the Tow Option very easily. For the 2021 you can get the 7-pin harness (S9F61-AU000 + S9F67-AC500 + S9F61-AU060)*. If you bought the parts online or from Kia any trailer dealer would probably install it for a small fee or you could negotiate it with the Kia dealer. A bird in the hand is worth waiting 90 days IMO. All in you will be looking at $500-600 for the Kia Tow Option as an add on and you won’t be stuck with the self leveling shocks in the future that are more costly to replace and may not last as long. If you can negotiate the tow option at vehicle purchase for $475 with install that’s a good deal.

$320 more to go from the tow option to the tow “package” looks like a deal. But if you don’t like the feel and look with the self leveling shocks or they fail out of warranty prematurely, you will spend more than $320 to have to replace with the same thing. Whereas standard shocks give you the flexibility to upgrade with less expensive performance shocks and even add an air bag system if you decide later on. The point is, you have options.

*If adding to a 2020, just get S9F61-AU000 + S9F61-AU060 and an aftermarket harness
I posted about installing a KIA OE hitch a few months ago. It takes a around an hour, don't need a lift or even jack stands, and it is 100% as it would be delivered for the cost of $450.
It is going to come down to if they want the shocks then.

I’m a casual tower and I wanted the shocks.

OP now has the info they need.
 
It is going to come down to if they want the shocks then.

I’m a casual tower and I wanted the shocks.

OP now has the info they need.
I agree. I just wanted to make sure the OP was informed. Adding just the hitch later will actually be less money than waiting 90 days and waiting for the more expensive tow "package". And over the long run the self-leveling shocks will cost more to maintain. Back to the original post that started this thread, Kia advertising this only on the Telluride in the US as a towing package is really misleading because it provides no additional towing value (capacity nor safety). In fact, in some cases when towing it creates additional complication to setup. To a casual tower (the audience this original thread was meant for) if you are pull 3,500-5,000 pounds it may be even more important to understand the complexity in setup for safety reasons. Sway, fishtailing, poor steering or inadequate braking that result in an accident only need to happen once to have catastrophic results.
 
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I agree. I just wanted to make sure the OP was informed. Adding just the hitch later will actually be less money than waiting 90 days and waiting for the more expensive tow "package". And over the long run the self-leveling shocks will cost more to maintain. Back to the original post that started this thread, Kia advertising this only on the Telluride in the US as a towing package is really misleading because it provides no additional towing value (capacity nor safety). In fact, in some cases when towing it creates additional complication to setup. To a casual tower (the audience this original thread was meant for) if you are pull 3,500-5,000 pounds it may be even more important to understand the complexity in setup for safety reasons. Sway, fishtailing, poor steering or inadequate braking that result in an accident only need to happen once to have catastrophic results.
Thank everyone for responding. I only need to tow a small sailboat (Laser) and will opt for the one without the package and do an aftermarket or dealer install. I’m also super anxious to get it in and cannot wait!
 
I agree. I just wanted to make sure the OP was informed. Adding just the hitch later will actually be less money than waiting 90 days and waiting for the more expensive tow "package". And over the long run the self-leveling shocks will cost more to maintain. Back to the original post that started this thread, Kia advertising this only on the Telluride in the US as a towing package is really misleading because it provides no additional towing value (capacity nor safety). In fact, in some cases when towing it creates additional complication to setup. To a casual tower (the audience this original thread was meant for) if you are pull 3,500-5,000 pounds it may be even more important to understand the complexity in setup for safety reasons. Sway, fishtailing, poor steering or inadequate braking that result in an accident only need to happen once to have catastrophic results.
Confirmed: I asked Kia Parts/Service about eventually 9-10 years down the road replacing the rear self-leveling Mando shock absorbers and it's way more $$$ than for the standard shocks.

I'll be keeping an eye on the aftermarket suspension upgrades that will be rolling out more and more as the Telluride continues to get established and build a big enough market to justify companies selling various suspension/shock absorber products for us to choose from.

Most people will be perfectly fine just keeping the standard shocks, installing the OEM hitch receiver and towing with the standard Telly shocks.

Since my Telly came with the self-leveling rear shock absorbers as part of the so-called "Tow package", I had to be aware of the limitations, the future costs, and possible issues that one can run into with these things.

There's issues with certain lift kits, and when it comes time to replace these things, it's going to cost me a lot more. I might switch them out for standard shocks or some upcoming aftermarket options if I never have to really use the rear self-leveling feature.

Y'all can read @2020Telly's previous threads discussing best practices for towing for yourselves.
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We own a 21 Telly with factory tow option and we have pulled a Cherokee Wolf Pup 16fq 3728 pounds fully loaded with 416 pounds on the tongue and for over 3k miles without an issue. WDH is recommended and proper trailer loading is a must.
I have a friend that owns a frame shop and the day we brought the Telly home he asked me if we could check the frame strings to validate his software on his frame machine. Specs were spot on to KIA factory specs.
After 2200 miles of towing we checked the frame specs again to see what effects the WDH had on the unibody construction. Pleasantly surprised that all settings were still perfect.
I'm very happy with how this vehicle tows and prefer it over my '13 Suburban.
 
We own a 21 Telly with factory tow option and we have pulled a Cherokee Wolf Pup 16fq 3728 pounds fully loaded with 416 pounds on the tongue and for over 3k miles without an issue. WDH is recommended and proper trailer loading is a must.
I have a friend that owns a frame shop and the day we brought the Telly home he asked me if we could check the frame strings to validate his software on his frame machine. Specs were spot on to KIA factory specs.
After 2200 miles of towing we checked the frame specs again to see what effects the WDH had on the unibody construction. Pleasantly surprised that all settings were still perfect.
I'm very happy with how this vehicle tows and prefer it over my '13 Suburban.
This is great feedback and reassurance that the WDH makes sense with this unibody frame for safe towing. I'm a very early Telluride owner and I am pleased to hear this because my manual still has the 351 pound tongue weight number that was fixed with a sticker that Kia sent me to change the number to 500. I'm really pleased to hear that the Telluride met the 500 spec and that the WDH on the unibody was not a problem. Hopefully this will encourage other folks to consider a WDH if they are getting in that 400+ range to level their load AND distribute the weight back to the other axles before before they snap their rear axle.

When the self-leveling shocks work, I think they serve a purpose for a couple hundred pounds on hitch. But I would have never called them a tow package and led people to assume that it was needed for heavier towing and that lifting the back end is the same as weight distribution. More towing guidance from Kia would resolve much of this confusion. I also think there is a problem with old ways of thinking of unibody construction when you go talk to a camper dealer who installs hitches on truck frames all day. I think they are making assumptions that are a decade old based on the fact that it's a unibody.

Thanks for sharing!
 
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Greetings -
2021 telluride tow package + brake controller , +self leveling, 4pt WDH.

We tow 3950 + 500 gear in travel trailer (tanks and water heater are dry).
I have a four point WDH and tows quite well. I carefully measure the 4 bumper points in front of front tires and rear of rear tires of the telluride when I originally setup the WDH and before and after hookup to make sure distributed properly. These should be kept within 1/4 inch if possible by adjusting WDH (4 pt) hitch system. NOTE: The self leveling are painful here as you need a few miles on the tow to level up and check the level at the bumpers.

See expert guidance here. Although I do not agree with the 2 point WDH they use here for Telly and 4000lbs and greater. WATCH this as many times as needed to get it right.

We have a few thousand miles towing with this setup over eastern US mountains.

On long trips, I will pull out the 100lb 3rd row backseat to reduce rear axle load as well.

I weighed the ~500lbs of gear and looking to off load unnecessary items continually.
I keep a spreadsheet of the weights and adjust at least annually.

You all probably know this already, but imo, pulling a large TT over long distance is serious business and not to be taken lightly in any regard.

Hope this helps someone.
 
I have a 2022 SXP with "self leveling suspension". Is this a special self leveling shock ? It works automatically? I bought the towing package mainly to get the tow hitch and wiring installed at the factory.
 




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