Non Nightfall SX Prestige Waiting Room

[Frankie Knuckles]

For what it’s worth, my dealer just bumped my 10/04 ETA to 10/31.

 

[JerseySXP]

For what it’s worth, my dealer just bumped my 10/04 ETA to 10/31.

When they make one SXP a day...this is the new normal. Kia has lost their damn mind...

They bet early, and big that NF would be a massive hit...

 

[Frankie Knuckles]

When they make one SXP a day...this is the new normal. Kia has lost their damn mind...

They bet early, and big that NF would be a massive hit...

It’s disappointing. Just take care of the backlog before promoting your latest line.

 

[MarcinTexas]

For what it’s worth, my dealer just bumped my 10/04 ETA to 10/31.

That sucks. I'm sorry. I will know on Thursday if my ETA holds as it is supposed to start production on 9/24.

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[MarcinTexas]

It’s disappointing. Just take care of the backlog before promoting your latest line.

No kidding. It seems so obvious...but I guess they had already committed to a launch date and decided to just screw over the older orders.

 

[ssmblazer]

I say we pick a day and all of us waiting for an SXP bombard Kia Headquarters with phone calls to demand our vehicles be produced before the new Nightfall orders.

I really like this idea and it certainly can't hurt. I say if @MarcinTexas 9/24 build slips, we should do this. It seems that his should hit before the rest of ours based on our ETAs.

 

[Sportshot2]

That sucks. I'm sorry. I will know on Thursday if my ETA holds as it is supposed to start production on 9/24.

Does the dealer give you the information on the start of production or do you find it elsewhere?

 

[kcwjr1948]

I really like this idea and it certainly can't hurt. I say if @MarcinTexas 9/24 build slips, we should do this. It seems that his should hit before the rest of ours based on our ETAs.

I'm in.

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[JerseySXP]

I don't think they will care to be completely honest.

A well worded email to their senior executive team with all of us copied on it with our dealers CC'd may actually help.

No executives like an email chain like that which can easily be forwarded to car magazine editors etc...wouldn't make out for good news. Especially if said email has timelines/diagrams/data that has been gathered here.

 

[PassingTime]

I don't think they will care to be completely honest.

A well worded email to their senior executive team with all of us copied on it with our dealers CC'd may actually help.

No executives like an email chain like that which can easily be forwarded to car magazine editors etc...wouldn't make out for good news. Especially if said email has timelines/diagrams/data that has been gathered here.

I don't think that they really give a F**k! Dealers blame it on production, quotas, demand.....KIA blames it on covid, supply train, transportation no one wins except KIA and they are selling snake oil with all the NE and making a killing. Go ahead and try to call and email and see where that ends up. Hours on hold or email to presorted trash bin while the $$$$ to their bottom lines continue to add up. They are already well beyond giving a $h!t about the few of us that have had orders dating back to the early and pre covid days of this year. We are just pennies they are willing to lose while they pile millions to their bottom line. Why would they screw up a good thing just to take care of a few disgruntled customers who are willing to wait through this crap they are pulling.

 

[SC300ES]

Contact Jalopnik. They seem to have writers that might want to bring this mainstream.

 

[JerseySXP]

Contact Jalopnik. They seem to have writers that might want to bring this mainstream.

I'd say we write the email first. Get some low level communications employee to reply back to us and then forward that email to the car writers.

I'm game on writing the email. Just need information from those of us waiting including timelines. Add some visuals from @MarcinTexas and hit send. It can't hurt at this point.

Assuming their C-suite emails aren't on their website we would have to figure out a way to find their email addresses.

FYI - I actually did this with my dealership. Found the owners email address on LinkedIn and now I magically get all of the information I want when he's copied...

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[JerseySXP]

I had to pester the hell out of them but here is my timeline.

We are all watching @MarcinTexas timeline as @StephenCantrelle can actually send timely updates as it moves down the pipeline...it doesn't take much and his work helps us all.

 

[vinylhaircut]

I haven't followed this thread thoroughly, so please excuse if this is based on incomplete information. If a campaign (of sorts) is started to inquire/pressure/publicize the issues with Kia manufacturing, won't that require publicizing the data from failcat in order to make the case? Won't Kia then just turn off that spigot and kill the information stream we now have?

 

[JerseySXP]

I haven't followed this thread thoroughly, so please excuse if this is based on incomplete information. If a campaign (of sorts) is started to inquire/pressure/publicize the issues with Kia manufacturing, won't that require publicizing the data from failcat in order to make the case? Won't Kia then just turn off that spigot and kill the information stream we now have?

Many of us here believe Kia is well aware of FC and they are letting it continue as free marketing.

People literally stalk on FC and take hours out of their week to call dealers for inventory that dealers don't know about...can't get much better than that for Kia.

 

[kcwjr1948]

I haven't followed this thread thoroughly, so please excuse if this is based on incomplete information. If a campaign (of sorts) is started to inquire/pressure/publicize the issues with Kia manufacturing, won't that require publicizing the data from failcat in order to make the case? Won't Kia then just turn off that spigot and kill the information stream we now have?

I worry about the failcat issue as well.

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[JerseySXP]

Who said anything about Failcat needing to be mentioned in the email to Kia?



No reason to be naive. Plenty of people have spilled the beans to their dealer and assuming Kia Corporate as well about Failcat and it's still around.

One theory - they know about it...

 

[Sportshot2]

I haven't followed this thread thoroughly, so please excuse if this is based on incomplete information. If a campaign (of sorts) is started to inquire/pressure/publicize the issues with Kia manufacturing, won't that require publicizing the data from failcat in order to make the case? Won't Kia then just turn off that spigot and kill the information stream we now have?

I think that is possible. They might do better by being upfront about the reason for the delays if they have facts. Hard to accept that they can make added dealer allocations in Prestige Night Fall Without being able to fill customer orders who have Prestige package.

Dealers have to be very happy with all the added allocations the increased production has given them. Customers waiting For their Prestige package vehicles seem to be of little concern to KIA!

 

[vinylhaircut]

Many of us here believe Kia is well aware of FC and they are letting it continue as free marketing.

People literally stalk on FC and take hours out of their week to call dealers for inventory that dealers don't know about...can't get much better than that for Kia.

I agree with this, as the system now stands. Right now it doesn't pose a problem for Kia. But if they have to deal with customers calling them - or especially any perceived negative publicity as is being discussed - then their viewpoint on it may change dramatically.

 

[travelbug928]

I don't think they will care to be completely honest.

A well worded email to their senior executive team with all of us copied on it with our dealers CC'd may actually help.

No executives like an email chain like that which can easily be forwarded to car magazine editors etc...wouldn't make out for good news. Especially if said email has timelines/diagrams/data that has been gathered here.

I'm definitely not the worst case here, but here are some more numbers for another upset customer if you're serious about this email!

SX P/T - Everlasting Silver/Black - Added Towing, Interior Lighting, and Wheel Locks
Ordered 4/10/2020. Entered into KFOS on 8/18/2020. ETA given on that date was 11/18. Second ETA (given last week) is now 12/9.