Telluride vs. New Alternatives (TL;DR: Telluride Still Wins)

[zhelder]

That Grand Highlander looked slightly tempting… then Toyota kills it with 4 cyl. engines. Plus, $60,000 for a maxed out hybrid.

The CX-90 also looked slightly tempting… but, again, $61,000 decked out. Plus, they say the third row is still minuscule. At least it has 6 cyl. engines.

Turbo/Shmurbo. Gimme my 6 cylinders. If you insist on a turbo, I still want 6 cylinders.

In short, I’m likely to have Night Ranger (‘21 SX-P Nightfall) for a looonnng time. The Telluride is still the best option out there (and, pan it if you must, the Palisade is second).

 

[PittPa]

I agree. I'm hoping the next refresh retains the best attributes but still provides something interesting like the original concept. You would think another manufacturer would have gone the copy cat route but can't see any other contenders yet

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

The Mazda has some interesting turbo engines, but the looks of the car remind me of too many other cars. Meh ......

 

[ceenote]

That Grand Highlander looked slightly tempting… then Toyota kills it with 4 cyl. engines. Plus, $60,000 for a maxed out hybrid.

The CX-90 also looked slightly tempting… but, again, $61,000 decked out. Plus, they say the third row is still minuscule. At least it has 6 cyl. engines.

Turbo/Shmurbo. Gimme my 6 cylinders. If you insist on a turbo, I still want 6 cylinders.

In short, I’m likely to have Night Ranger (‘21 SX-P Nightfall) for a looonnng time. The Telluride is still the best option out there (and, pan it if you must, the Palisade is second).

Yeah i was looking the grand highlander also and said well.. i dunno..then the price... im like umm..i just dunno.. i got another 2 years before its time to check out of mines.. soo i got plenty of time...

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[vinylhaircut]

I agree with your assessments. I'm hopeful that competitive models continue to get better. The more viable options, the better. I'd love to see a plug-in hybrid in the next few years, but I'm afraid things are moving toward full EV or nothing. An EV would be great for a second, smaller car for us to use around town, but it's just not yet reasonable for us for the long trips we take with the Telluride. Maybe someday though. For now, I'm hoping I can get upwards of 150K on my Telluride. Definitely a fascinating market to watch!

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

I agree with your assessments. I'm hopeful that competitive models continue to get better. The more viable options, the better. I'd love to see a plug-in hybrid in the next few years, but I'm afraid things are moving toward full EV or nothing. An EV would be great for a second, smaller car for us to use around town, but it's just not yet reasonable for us for the long trips we take with the Telluride. Maybe someday though. For now, I'm hoping I can get upwards of 150K on my Telluride. Definitely a fascinating market to watch!

Baby steps. I think we'll see a hybrid in '25. Gas mileage won't be anything to write home about, but it will be slightly better than the V6. KIA is having difficulties with their Hybrid Sorento regarding the coolant. I don't expect a PHEV until 2026.

 

[YEH]

Based on reports for the next gen Palisade, the Telluride should be powered by a turbo 6, along with 2 hybrid options (not clear if one will be a PHEV).

Reason why the current Telluride didn't get a hybrid option is b/c it's based on an older platform.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

Based on reports for the next gen Palisade, the Telluride should be powered by a turbo 6, along with 2 hybrid options (not clear if one will be a PHEV).

Reason why the current Telluride didn't get a hybrid option is b/c it's based on an older platform.

That's what I've heard too. 2025 should be an interesting year. Although, as I have no interest in a hybrid or PHEV, I am more than glad I'll be getting a '24.

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[medallione]

Based on reports for the next gen Palisade, the Telluride should be powered by a turbo 6, along with 2 hybrid options (not clear if one will be a PHEV).

Reason why the current Telluride didn't get a hybrid option is b/c it's based on an older platform.

So I heard too. The 2.5T I4 engine in the hybridized version is kitted in the Genesis GV80, it is also the same engine in the Sorento with 300/281 hp and 311 Ib.ft respectively, together with an assisted battery pack, the performance numbers will be higher. The pure ICE non-HEV variant will likely come with a sllghtly detuned version of that in Genesis G80 with 3.5L Twin Turbo V6 engine with 375hp and 391 Ib.ft. Kia will def have similar offerings in their line up for the Telluride, but cheaper than the EV9

 

[ljn21]

Would love to see a more powerful engine option like a turbo six.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

it is also the same engine in the Sorento with 281 hp and 311 Ib.ft

And it runs like a scalded cat. I love the power in my Sorento -- it is really almost unbelievable!

 

[YEH]

So I heard too. The 2.5T I4 engine in the hybridized version is kitted in the Genesis GV80, it is also the same engine in the Sorento with 300/281 hp and 311 Ib.ft respectively, together with an assisted battery pack, the performance numbers will be higher.

Maybe you just didn't phrase it it correctly, but the 2.5T hybrid doesn't exist yet and is currently in development (you probably were just referring to the 2.5T mill).

Only hybrid Genesis currently offers is the 48V mild hybrid, supercharged 3.5TT V6 in the G90, but we're likely to see that powertrain trickle down to other models.

A turbo 6, 2 hybrid powertrains and (presumably) better sheetmetal and interior will keep the Telluride ahead of the Grand RAV4, and probably even the Lexus version.

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[medallione]

Maybe you just didn't phrase it it correctly, but the 2.5T hybrid doesn't exist yet and is currently in development (you probably were just referring to the 2.5T mill).

Only hybrid Genesis currently offers is the 48V mild hybrid, supercharged 3.5TT V6 in the G90, but we're likely to see that powertrain trickle down to other models.

A turbo 6, 2 hybrid powertrains and (presumably) better sheetmetal and interior will keep the Telluride ahead of the Grand RAV4, and probably even the Lexus version.

You're right. I misspoke there, I meant to say the 2.5T I4 engine currently kitted in the Genesis GV80 will come in a hybridized variant. when the 2026 Palisade rolls out.

 

[TellmeyourWHAT?]

You're right. I misspoke there, I meant to say the 2.5T I4 engine currently kitted in the Genesis GV80 will come in a hybridized variant. when the 2026 Palisade rolls out.

Reading between the lines - does that mean that KIA will also not roll out a hybridized variant of the Telluride until 2026?

 

[YEH]

^ Yes, the current (old) platform underpinning the Telluride and Palisade weren't developed to accommodate hybrids.

The Sorento, Carnival and Santa Fe are all on the new M3 platform (the SF actually switched to the new platform for its facelift).

Among the larger H/K models, the Telluride and Palisade are the last of the previous gen lineup.

 

[T’Ride]

That Grand Highlander looked slightly tempting… then Toyota kills it with 4 cyl. engines. Plus, $60,000 for a maxed out hybrid.

The CX-90 also looked slightly tempting… but, again, $61,000 decked out. Plus, they say the third row is still minuscule. At least it has 6 cyl. engines.

Turbo/Shmurbo. Gimme my 6 cylinders. If you insist on a turbo, I still want 6 cylinders.

In short, I’m likely to have Night Ranger (‘21 SX-P Nightfall) for a looonnng time. The Telluride is still the best option out there (and, pan it if you must, the Palisade is second).

I agree completely… drove the Mazda and felt the “performance” was pretty similar to our ‘21 T’Ride rather than the BMW X5 as promoted. The 4 cyl turbo in the Toyota was a nonstarter for me. New T’Ride on order.

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[alexdrums]

I agree completely… drove the Mazda and felt the “performance” was pretty similar to our ‘21 T’Ride rather than the BMW X5 as promoted. The 4 cyl turbo in the Toyota was a nonstarter for me. New T’Ride on order.

What’s the matter with your ‘21?

 

[G-85079]

Nothing. It is perfect and we have been very happy with it (50,000 km). With the trade in value and corresponding tax benefit we will be getting almost what we paid got the ‘21 and with the MSRP from the dealer we will be getting a 2024 for very little cost. No brainer really. Two years newer and no miles. With concerns over going out of warranty were only planning to keep the ‘21 for a maximum of four years anyway.

 

[T’Ride]

What’s the matter with your ‘21?

Nothing. It’s been perfect. But with its value on trade plus the tax savings we have decided at two years and 50,000 kms our 2021 will get us almost what we paid for it. Our plan was always to trade before the warranty went but the current situation just sped things up. We will have a two year newer vehicle with no miles

 

[alexdrums]

Ok. Well it seems like a lot of extra money spent to just continue having the same vehicle…especially since prices have risen 25/30 percent. I would think the CX-90 would be much more fun to drive on the twistys. Unless you are just cruising around town in a straight line…then the Telluride wins