Was thinking you had something else, sorry about the gruff. Magneson moss is old(because technology) and dealerships can get around it if they want.
Sorry to hear all that. I was preparing to install the Truxxx lift kit until I read this. I also have the Tow package. Have you been able to confirm that the lift kit caused the damage, and have learned anything more about this issue?
What did it take to get the dealer to replace the Nivomats w/ standard shocks/springs? Was there any cost to you for them doing it? We have about 4k on ours and I'm not a fan of the ride and handling w/ the Nivomats. Don't plan on doing much towing and it won't be heavy when we do.
Keep in mind the solution is not a Kia-factory sanctioned fix for Nivomat failures. The suggestion to take this path was mine alone. Depending on the relationship you have with your local dealer, you'll need to negotiate the cost of the fix if you go this route. I worked closely with the Service Mgr on parts / labor whom I've known for 15 yrs or so. Kia will not support this solution as a warrantly claim.
Just wondering if you (or anyone else) has heard from Truxxx with respect to the shock extensions?
I have not. I was planning on reaching out to them again in a few weeks to see if there is any movement yet on this issue. We are not expecting our Telluride until later in the fall so I haven't been too concerned about it....yet!
I find it interesting there are so many different thoughts/ideas/solution being posed, and some of them conflicting. I had spoken w/ Darren at Truxxx 2-3 weeks ago, and he felt pretty strongly the issue is w/ the Nivomat shocks, and that an extension bracket is not a solution. I also spoke w/ the parts mgr. at my local Kia dealer, who has been speaking/working w/ Truxxx on the issue, and they are supposedly testing out putting 1-2 Tellys back into standard OEM shocks to see if that resolves the issue. Combined w/ the service crew telling me that my shocks are "shot" and I simply don't know who or what to believe.
I also find it strange that the Nivomats could simply be swapped out for the standard shocks. My original Telly (Mar. 2019) was a pre-order, and back then they didn't have the "self-adjusting system" in stock, so mine was manufactured w/out (by mistake, I had paid for the full setup). The dealer swapped out my Telly w/ a brand new one 11 months later, because in my dealer's words "The self-leveling system cannot just be added in, but it has to be manufactured this way"... so, what is the significant difference that would make it impossible to add it in, yet it can be simply removed/swapped out for a standard shock?
I'm getting tired of having every third driver flash their brights at me at night, because my ride sits so low in back (we've adjusted the headlights beams as low as they will go). Now I'm wondering if perhaps it's sitting too high in front? Supposedly, there's a fix around every corner, but it appears it's just a bunch of word games at the moment. Kinda bummed out that I ever went down this road now (getting the lift kit). I've also seen another local here w/ one of the new 2021's and his lift kit looks superb; going to try to track him down and find out where and how he got it done.
Purchased mine in March 2019 also. Took delivery in May of that year w/OEM Nivomats. There is absolutely no issue swapping in / out Nivomats with this vehicle as there is no connection (CAN Bus) of the Nivomat shocks to the vechicle management system. (unlike more complex intellegent pnuematic and hydraulic suspension systems) They operate 100% independently based on load. No magic to it. Only differences are: Shocks (which mount the same as any other normal shock) Springs, Spring Bumpers & Mounts. I worked with my Service Mgr and parts dept to make it happen. Nice part breakdown here: Shocks & Components for 2020 Kia Telluride | Kia Parts AccessoriesI find it interesting there are so many different thoughts/ideas/solution being posed, and some of them conflicting. I had spoken w/ Darren at Truxxx 2-3 weeks ago, and he felt pretty strongly the issue is w/ the Nivomat shocks, and that an extension bracket is not a solution. I also spoke w/ the parts mgr. at my local Kia dealer, who has been speaking/working w/ Truxxx on the issue, and they are supposedly testing out putting 1-2 Tellys back into standard OEM shocks to see if that resolves the issue. Combined w/ the service crew telling me that my shocks are "shot" and I simply don't know who or what to believe.
I also find it strange that the Nivomats could simply be swapped out for the standard shocks. My original Telly (Mar. 2019) was a pre-order, and back then they didn't have the "self-adjusting system" in stock, so mine was manufactured w/out (by mistake, I had paid for the full setup). The dealer swapped out my Telly w/ a brand new one 11 months later, because in my dealer's words "The self-leveling system cannot just be added in, but it has to be manufactured this way"... so, what is the significant difference that would make it impossible to add it in, yet it can be simply removed/swapped out for a standard shock?
I'm getting tired of having every third driver flash their brights at me at night, because my ride sits so low in back (we've adjusted the headlights beams as low as they will go). Now I'm wondering if perhaps it's sitting too high in front? Supposedly, there's a fix around every corner, but it appears it's just a bunch of word games at the moment. Kinda bummed out that I ever went down this road now (getting the lift kit). I've also seen another local here w/ one of the new 2021's and his lift kit looks superb; going to try to track him down and find out where and how he got it done.
Can you tell me if towing contributed to the nivomats breakdown?
Can you tell me if towing contributed to the nivomats breakdown?
Straight forward mechanical swap as long as the springs and spring seats are swaped as well as the Nivomats. Been 2mos or so. Ride is equal to Nivomats before they failed. No noticible difference exept that the rear does not sag when parked. Front and rear wheels measure equally from center cap to wheel well edge.
Has anyone installed this kit from Fat Bob's Garage? I sent them an e-mail today with a few questions. But I'm just wondering if anyone has gone this route and if it is any different from the Truxxx lift.Even being lifted, it still has enough length in the shock to be level. So we know they are within extension range. We don't know how much or if they engage the leveling aspect at all. Could be that it is "out of range" of the leveling aspect and it just acts as a shock.
Shocks actual job is only to keep the tire pressure on the road, the spring is to control height. They are just a cheaper design than air springs(would never want them or use them).
Perfect world, get rid of the nivomat shocks, have a lifted variable rate coil.
In my curiosity of looking for a spring lift, I did find these guys.
Maybe worth contacting since the image looks like they have shock extensions.
Kia Telluride Hyundai Palisade 2" Lift Kit 2019-2022
Kia Telluride Hyundai Palisade 2" Lift Kit 2019-2022 This is a straightforward install, no cutting or welding or permanent modifications needed. This 2" lift kit allows you to fit much more aggressive tires and wheels allowing your SUV to take the family and all your toys to where they need to...4x4.fatbobsgarage.com
How do the toyo's ride,sound and handle ?
Is this photo without a lift and 265/50/20 tires ?
