Remote start

[mrmac]

I think if you got a palisade or seltos key and programmed it to your car it would work.

The telluride is identical to the palisade, so I assume the modules are the same.

The seltos has the same key as the telluride with the button on the back.

That is the first route I would try if I finally bought the telluride vs going aftermarket.

If you try it and it works please PM me so I know it is correct.

The dealer would likely tell you it doesn't work, but wouldn't know unless they tried it so I would err on them not knowing the truth.

NEVER good to assume

 

[Mike_S]

I had one installed for $325 with 1000ft range. Got tired of the app not working with wifi or no cell service. Just Crazy...you dump $48 grand and have to but a remote start kit..SMDH

 

[mrmac]

There are many $100K plus vehicles that don't come with remote start.

 

[Tellurideorpalisade]

NEVER good to assume

Does it hurt to try a $200 key vs a $1800 aftermarket system (or whatever the actual costs are)

And cost cutting measures would tell me that the module in both the palisade and the telluride are identical. Highly doubt the would use two separate modules in vehicles that are largely identical.

Also, since the seltos key fob is the same just with an added button, I would think that is also compatible.

The real question is do you want to confuse the valet with a hyundai key in your telluride or give them a seltos key. I am not sure which I would like better. Mischief or a matching key.

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[mrmac]

Does it hurt to try a $200 key vs a $1800 aftermarket system (or whatever the actual costs are)

And cost cutting measures would tell me that the module in both the palisade and the telluride are identical. Highly doubt the would use two separate modules in vehicles that are largely identical.

Also, since the seltos key fob is the same just with an added button, I would think that is also compatible.

The real question is do you want to confuse the valet with a hyundai key in your telluride or give them a seltos key. I am not sure which I would like better. Mischief or a matching key.

A Palisade Keyfob without the corresponding module and programming on the Telluride will not remotely start the Telluride. So, unless you have $200 to throw away on a dust collector, yes, it hurts

 

[Tellurideorpalisade]

A Palisade Keyfob without the corresponding module and programming on the Telluride will not remotely start the Telluride. So, unless you have $200 to throw away on a dust collector, yes, it hurts

I am thinking all of that will function exactly the same. The chip in the fob should be identical, just wrapped in a different case. The module in the car should be the same. The programming tool should be the same as well. There is a small chance they will not work, and if you find a dealer that is helpful, maybe they are willing to work with you.

These are badge engineered cars. All major components are the same except for a few details and the sheetmetal/interior bits. But I would be extremely surprised if the inconsequential functional bits are different.

If I bought the current year, I would risk the $200 because I would much rather have an integrated factory solution and save $1600, vs the additional cost of $200 to an $1800 system. The potential reward in quality and savings is much greater than the risk.

 

[mrmac]

I am thinking all of that will function exactly the same. The chip in the fob should be identical, just wrapped in a different case. The module in the car should be the same. The programming tool should be the same as well. There is a small chance they will not work, and if you find a dealer that is helpful, maybe they are willing to work with you.

These are badge engineered cars. All major components are the same except for a few details and the sheetmetal/interior bits. But I would be extremely surprised if the inconsequential functional bits are different.

If I bought the current year, I would risk the $200 because I would much rather have an integrated factory solution and save $1600, vs the additional cost of $200 to an $1800 system. The potential reward in quality and savings is much greater than the risk.

You are making several assumptions, that while logical, yet unsupportable. We will all be able to learn from mistakes, so please share as you go through it.

To each his own, for sure

 

[2020Telly]

iDatastart shows the T-Harness as ADS-THR-HK5 on their wed site.

I don’t think that’s the plug and play harness for a Telluride at least the 2020 Kia Telluride is not listed as compatible. That could also be the T-Harness for a Kia that requires splicing.

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[2020Telly]

I am thinking all of that will function exactly the same. The chip in the fob should be identical, just wrapped in a different case. The module in the car should be the same. The programming tool should be the same as well. There is a small chance they will not work, and if you find a dealer that is helpful, maybe they are willing to work with you.

These are badge engineered cars. All major components are the same except for a few details and the sheetmetal/interior bits. But I would be extremely surprised if the inconsequential functional bits are different.

If I bought the current year, I would risk the $200 because I would much rather have an integrated factory solution and save $1600, vs the additional cost of $200 to an $1800 system. The potential reward in quality and savings is much greater than the risk.

I might be over simplifying this a bit but the way I see it a Key FOB is like a garage door opener remote. It sends a signal on a radio frequency and the buttons can be programmed and reprogrammed to do different things. But if you point a garage door remote at a garage door that has no garage opener then nothing happens. Kia decided not to put a remote starter control unit that uses radio frequencies in the Telluride and instead tried to sell a UVO app that requires subscription for the broadband enablement. So the FOB is not the problem, the remote start control unit wired into the car is what is missing. No one should spend $1800 for that. A decent aftermarket one should be able to get professionally installed for $500-600.

 

[KWrangler]

I don’t think that’s the plug and play harness for a Telluride at least the 2020 Kia Telluride is not listed as compatible. That could also be the T-Harness for a Kia that requires splicing.

Don't know, couldn't say. Just saw it on their site. When I get mine I will check it out further, probably sometime in September!!!

 

[2020Telly]

Don't know, couldn't say. Just saw it on their site. When I get mine I will check it out further, probably sometime in September!!!

Based on the widely referenced YouTube video’description:
“The 2020 Kia Telluride, done with an iDatastart HCX. It’s a Santa Fe, but not exactly. IMMO wire is in the passenger kick on this one.”

That makes me believe that a professional installer could take the T-Harness for a Santa Fe and locate the harness tie in for the connectors and find the immobilizer wire. But you might be paying extra labor for the installer to figure it out.

I think the iDatastart control module is used by a variety of remote start systems that integrate with the OEM key FOB by programming something like a three successive clicks of lock to start. Or since I have an S that doesn’t have the power lift gate, that button on my FOB is unused so I would just reprogram that button to a single or double click and live with the icon not matching.

Another advantage to aftermarket vs from Kia is the range of the system. If Kia offered this you might be limited to a low range which would work for most people starting the Telluride in their driveway. I would be curious to find out what the range is for the Palisade. Alternatively, with aftermarket you can pick different range units that all work modularly depending on our budget and get what you need from 1,000ft - 5,000ft max range. So that might help if you park at work at a distance or live in an apartment and don’t have a driveway close.

Maybe by September there will be documentation from the aftermarket installers for how to do this on a Kia Telluride quickly and efficiently with minimal to no splicing on a plug-n-play harness

 

[2020Telly]

I would be curious to find out what the range is for the Palisade or Seltos.

I just found in the 2020 Hyundai Palisade Owner's Manual, page 3-10 that the documented range of the remote start option is within 32ft. (This is a range of the control unit not the key FOB.) Basically still longer than the proximity range the Telluride for unlocking the doors, but definitely on par with some of the cheapest remote car starters on the market. So it might console a 2020 Kia Telluride owner to consider that even if this feature came from the Kia factory, you still might have to walk across your house (since the average home length is about 48') to be within a 32' range to start your Telluride in the driveway. I said "might" because maybe 32' is the published optimal range but without any other interferences the listening unit in the vehicle could reach 48'. And you might have paid an up-charge that added to the purchase price to have this relatively low range radio frequency based remote start control module come with the vehicle.

Regardless if a 32' range radio frequency based OEM car starter did boost the purchase price, over a few years it would still likely be less than than the UVO app fees because of the ongoing embedded broadband charges. For example, the UVO App Plus Subscription is the minimum enrollment that offers Remote Start and that runs $225 annually (with a 33% coupon code from Kia you can get it for $148.50/yr).

By comparison, for $500-600 you can get a professionally installed quality radio frequency based remote start system that works with the OEM factory proximity key FOB buttons that would allow you to start your SUV from a distance at work or home before you start walking to it. In the heat of summer when you need AC running for a few minutes, or in the dead of winter when you need to warm up the engine, or in the middle of a pandemic when you haven't started your Telluride in a few days, this may make a difference.

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[2020Telly]

The programming tool should be the same as well.

Something to consider, the Telluride Owner's Manual says that only 2 proximity key FOBs can be programmed at a time. I believe these newer Kia FOBs costs as much as $150 each to program the proximity key at the dealership. Some of the older (2013 and older) Kia key FOBs can be programmed from places like BatteriesPlus for as little as $45 but I think you have to buy the FOB from them and they don't sell the newer ones. So bottomline, if you bought the ~$200 Palisade key FOB and paid ~$150 to program it you would lose one of your two Telluride ones and still not get the remote start function because you would lack the radio based control unit to start the Telluride. At that point you have spent as much as a cheaper car starter system at BestBuy with about 800ft max range transmitter and possibly for just a little more a very high end long range system from a dedicated aftermarket dealer and professional installation shop.

I think the way this technology works is that a remote start system uses a radio frequency to start the vehicle, and you can program radio frequencies of each button (or sequences of button presses) to do the start operation, similar to a garage door remote, but that still doesn't give you the ability to drive the car. The proximity programming is what allows you to put the vehicle in gear and drive away and that is encrypted by the dealer for a fee and allows your 2 proximity key FOBs to only work with your Telluride.

 

[Crazymom5]

I have read on the Kia web site thst the the Telluride comes with remote start as standard as long as you have the UVO app and subscription. When I asked the Kia dealer they said it does not have remote start. Does anyone know what the answer is?

You have to use the app for the 2020 Telluride. After the first year, you have to pay for it and it’s not cheap! Starting with the 2021, you’ll be able to get a key fob with remote start according to my dealership.

 

[Crazymom5]

I have read on the Kia web site thst the the Telluride comes with remote start as standard as long as you have the UVO app and subscription. When I asked the Kia dealer they said it does not have remote start. Does anyone know what the answer is?

Ha! Just replied to this and didn’t realize it was a year old! Sorry!

 

[TelluTubby]

A question for those of you that have added the iDatastart remote start system to your Telluride. Does the key fob still work with the UVO app and vise-versa? My order was supposed to go into KFOS this month but has been moved to next month it seems since the factory is closed. Rumor has it that the 21 models MAY have the remote start on the key fob but if it doesn't I want to add the iData remote start to it when I get it.

Thanks,

When ours was still installed, you could use the UVO app, the iDatastart remote, or hit the lock button on the Kia key fob 3 times to start the car. and it would run for more than the 10 or 15 minutes when you used the iDatastart.

The installer I priced out told me that if I did the iDatastart install today it would cost more in labor and take longer because there is no T-Harness yet. So they would need the vehicle in the shop for more hours because they would need to splice into the correct places. When the parent company for iDataStart comes out with a T-Harness it would be an easier and faster install and might even be something I could do myself. The challenge I see is that the Palisade comes with remote start on the key FOB from the factory. So I think the motivation to make a T-Harness for the Telluride is less.

There is another company I found that has plug-n-play kits for remote start that work with the FOB that told me to check back in a few months: 12Volt.Solutions - Home (not to be confused with the other Twelvolt LED shop).

Thats the big rub too, when ours was installed, they must have spliced into the wrong places, because weird things happened a while later. For instance, about 2 weeks later, only 2 of the 4(?) positions for the windsheild wipers worked, off and on-fast. the fog lights stopped working a week or two later. The dealer ended up pulling the unit and replacing the harness.

I'd love to have it re-installed, as it does me no good on the kitchen table.

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[vilynne46]

I purchased a Telluride last Wed 6/05 the EX model, and it does not have remote start

I have an EX and I paid extra for remote start.

 

[kane]

In UAE, All Tellurides come with a remote start as standard feature.

 

[SVoigt]

In UAE, All Tellurides come with a remote start as standard feature.

Go ahead, rub it in <G>...

 

[Vietvet]

I have a "remote" start..... my wife....... Just kidding....