Auto-Off

[Dawson]

I wonder if the button is just a simple two contact momentary switch? If holding it down permanently by shoving something into the switch works could we just bridge the two contacts on the bottom of the switch so that it always turns off when you start the engine? No one is getting any faults by leaving the switch depressed all the time?

As mentioned earlier, starting the engine 10 times more often is really bad for the journals longevity, not to mention greatly decreasing the life of the starter. It's simple physics.

We just traded in our 2016 Honda pilot touring today for a telluride ex partly due to Honda's refusal to admit the 9 speed zf tranny has a problem but also due to the auto start system failing multiple times in the last few weeks leaving my wife stranded in the road for up to 15 minutes untill the computer decided it was ok to start the engine again.

 

[Lou Panozzo]

I wonder if the button is just a simple two contact momentary switch? If holding it down permanently by shoving something into the switch works could we just bridge the two contacts on the bottom of the switch so that it always turns off when you start the engine? No one is getting any faults by leaving the switch depressed all the time?

As mentioned earlier, starting the engine 10 times more often is really bad for the journals longevity, not to mention greatly decreasing the life of the starter. It's simple physics.

We just traded in our 2016 Honda today for a telluride ex partly due to Honda's refusal to admit the 9 speed zf tranny has a problem but also due to the auto start system failing multiple times in the last few weeks leaving my wife stranded in the road for up to 15 minutes untill the computer decided it was ok to start the engine again.

Yes I have it pushed down, held down with a piece of plastic for 3 weeks now. No code! I forget it’s even there.

 

[ga1322]

Yes I have it pushed down, held down with a piece of plastic for 3 weeks now. No code! I forget it’s even there.

Same here

 

[pernstar]

Just curious because I’m having trouble envisioning this situation... but how did he get all the way out of the vehicle before it restarted? The moment you take your foot off the pedal the engine starts back up almost instantaneously. Glad no one was hurt and your Telluride is ok!

This is very interesting. In the Telly implementation of this feature I notice the engine starts when the brake is released. This results in a quicker acceleration because the delay allows the engine to start before you accelerate.

In my other car (2016 Volvo XC90) the auto start starts when the accelerator is depressed. This I believe is a safer implementation of this feature.

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[Dawson]

Yes I have it pushed down, held down with a piece of plastic for 3 weeks now. No code! I forget it’s even there.

So is the card keeping the button down like it is when you press it or is the card contacting the actual contact underneath the button and keeping it pressed down?

 

[ucinn]

Card is keeping the button pushed down.

 

[Rondakay]

I really don't have an issue with this feature. I commute about 60 miles a day and have probably 4-5 red lights on the route. It just doesn't bother me like it is bothering most of you - and I hope it is not causing that much additional wear on starter and other components. My mothers Highlander irritates me because it is so honking loud when it starts up - makes it so obvious - on mine I have to look at the dash sometimes to see if it is running or not.

 

[ucinn]

The most wear on an engine is at start up.. so you are putting that much extra wear on the engine each time it starts up. A warm starup is less harmful, but still more harmful than idle.

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[Dawson]

Also, the starter is a mechanical device, using it 5 to 10 times more on each commute will necassarily shorten it's usable life. From what I understand they do beef up the starter and battery on vehicles equipped with this "feature" but that just means it will be that much more costly to replace when it prematurely wears out from much more frequent and unnecassary use. What little gas it saves is not going to be anywhere near what it costs to get the starter replaced when it goes out, or even just the battery for that matter.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

Here’s another scenario: one car household, both you and the wife carry the key, you both get in in the morning and drive away for work, you think your key’s in your pocket, but it's not, you were able to unlock and start the engine because your wife’s next to you with her key, you drop her off at her job and say goodbye, you go on your merry way to your job, at the next red light, the engine shuts off, light turns green... no key no engine restart and no go, you are now stranded at a busy intersection in rush hour traffic, like an idiot.

Edit: I believe the Tell is smart enough to sound an audible warning if the key has left the car... but still, this CAN happen.

Just MHO, so don’t get all defensive and bend out of shape please.

You only have to be a few feet from the car before warning chimes and horn beeps start. Highly improbably that the above could happen. The majority of vehicles have push button start now.

 

[ucinn]

They just came out with this for the stinger, so it will probably work for the Telluride if you get the right wires. ISG and Auto-Hold Memory Module - Various Applications

Also have this for the door people. 2018+ Stinger Proximity Smart Door Lock Module

 

[Dawson]

They just came out with this for the stinger, so it will probably work for the Telluride if you get the right wires. ISG and Auto-Hold Memory Module - Various Applications

Also have this for the door people. 2018+ Stinger Proximity Smart Door Lock Module

Nice! I just emailed the company to find it if or when they will have a telluride specific kit available. While I agree that the Stinger kit would likely work in the telluride, I don't know where to splice it in without directions...directions on how to open up the center console would hopefully be included and greatly appreciated as well.

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[Dawson]

Nice! I just emailed the company to find it if or when they will have a telluride specific kit available. While I agree that the Stinger kit would likely work in the telluride, I don't know where to splice it in without directions...directions on how to open up the center console would hopefully be included and greatly appreciated as well.

Got a response from them this morning. So do you guys think the stinger module is likely to work in the telluride? Same wiring (and wire colors) on the bottom of the switch for the chip to splice in to? I think it's likely but not sure I want to gamble 70 bucks

Sorry but we cannot prototype a kit for the Telluride because it is not being sold in Korea yet, so wet have no way of prototyping it. Kia plans on selling the Telluride in Korea in November so that's when we can begin selling parts for it.

 

[critrider]

Ok, let me enrage this group!! My auto off is not functioning and I'm sooo happy. Upon braking the amber light on the switch and the "A" dash alarm come on and auto stop is disabled. Yes I have verified that none of the factory restrictors are engaged, air temp, fan speed etc. This is one warranty issue I will not be taking to the dealer. If I ever re sell, maybe ill mention this as a selling point as it seems everyone, including me, hates this feature. My gas mileage is in line with EPA ratings so I cant really say auto off does all that much.

 

[13_FST]

Ok, let me enrage this group!! My auto off is not functioning and I'm sooo happy. Upon braking the amber light on the switch and the "A" dash alarm come on and auto stop is disabled. Yes I have verified that none of the factory restrictors are engaged, air temp, fan speed etc. This is one warranty issue I will not be taking to the dealer. If I ever re sell, maybe ill mention this as a selling point as it seems everyone, including me, hates this feature. My gas mileage is in line with EPA ratings so I cant really say auto off does all that much.

I actually like the auto-off feature. LOL.

 

[Bjakub82]

I actually like the auto-off feature. LOL.

As do I. I also found that auto stop will not engage if lite break pressure is used. There is a pressure threshold that must be met for auto off to engage. Not sure how many people know that but with that you can control when you want it to engage or not without messing with the on/off button.

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[SLPV]

Ok, let me enrage this group!! My auto off is not functioning and I'm sooo happy. Upon braking the amber light on the switch and the "A" dash alarm come on and auto stop is disabled. Yes I have verified that none of the factory restrictors are engaged, air temp, fan speed etc. This is one warranty issue I will not be taking to the dealer. If I ever re sell, maybe ill mention this as a selling point as it seems everyone, including me, hates this feature. My gas mileage is in line with EPA ratings so I cant really say auto off does all that much.

Just hope the next time you service the Telluride, the mechanic doesn’t find this problem and fix it for you. Haha.