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[Bruce_wayne8887]

I completely agree with you syadasti. The Ascent is at the top of my list right now with the Passport. The Ascent is an incredible value and surely most consumers are comparing the Telluride to it. No way something pays MSRP for the Telluride unless they want to be an owner of it first or are absolutely in love with it. Which I do love the looks of the telluride but I'm not about to waste 2-4,000 paying MSRP.

 

[mrmac]

An X5 isn’t the same vehicle class, the luxury class is irrelevant to pricing Kia.

People need to get real if they think that. I was a paid consultant to a Korean company for over 2.5 years and the product managers, even those from Korea, aren’t that delusional.

It doesn't matter if they are in the same "class" or not. Some would say my Stinger GT2 isn't in the same class as an Audi, but I kick Audi a*$ each day.

"Class" is a marketing term to help those who feel they are elite to know how to spend more money for a status symbol.

Pound for pound, the Telluride beats its direct class competition and it bests some higher class vehicles.

It is a lot of vehicle for the asking price. Again, that's my dillusional opinion.

 

[syadasti]

It doesn't matter if they are in the same "class" or not. Some would say my Stinger GT2 isn't in the same class as an Audi, but I kick Audi a*$ each day.

"Class" is a marketing term to help those who feel they are elite to know how to spend more money for a status symbol.

Pound for pound, the Telluride beats its direct class competition and it bests some higher class vehicles.

It is a lot of vehicle for the asking price. Again, that's my dillusional opinion.

In some cases lower brands are OEM for others but you really don’t have a clue if you think KIA and BMW are equal in quality.

 

[mrmac]

In some cases lower brands are OEM for others but you really don’t have a clue if you think KIA and BMW are equal in quality.

Wow, another egomaniac. Every forum has at least one.

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[syadasti]

Wow, another egomaniac. Every forum has at least one.

Right and nobody is paying you anything for consulting. Or maybe you are behind the spectacular genesis dealership network?

 

[mrmac]

Nope. Just a full-time executive in the auto industry who has driven most every vehicle that retails below $200,000, owned 106 different cars/trucks/SUV’s, and so on. I clearly don’t measure up against a consultant like yourself. Please post that video of where you were walking on water so we can truly see your greatness.

 

[Haus]

Honestly, imo, surveying the competition, the Telluride is an excellent value at MSRP. Demand will be high enough that neither Kia, nor the dealers will see the need to discount much. A comparably equipped BMW X5 runs near $70,000 sticker, for instance.

Well, let's see. Let's take the top of the line trim of the Telluride SX Prestige at MSRP: $47000.

For $47,000, what else could you get? I'm looking at listed Autotrader brand new vehicle prices btw.

1. 46490 - A brand new Chevrolet Tahoe LT
2. 40k-47k - Any luxury trim full size truck (f150 lariat, RAM Laramie, Silverado LTZ, Titan Platinum Reserve, Tundra Limited)
3. 46230 - Cadillac XT5 Luxury
4. 45k - Honda Pilot Elite
5. 47k - BMW X3, Audi Q5, MB GLC 300

I'm not saying that the Telluride is completely worthless next to the above, but you can admit that when you start to compare it to things like this, the value proposition goes down. The Telluride, like the Sorento, will end up closer to 42 or 43k when appropriately valued, and that is closer to where it succeeds, in my opinion.

 

[Bruce_wayne8887]

Please guys be real. Quit blowing smoke up each others buts and talking Ego's and such. When it all comes down to it, Its a KIA suv vs a BMW suv. They are not in the same class, not a knock on Kia, or BMW. It could be Ford, Chevy, Honda. It's not a luxury brand so your not directly comparing apples to apples. I'd never pay 45,000 on a Kia and expect Acura, Audi, BMW quality.

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[syadasti]

Nope. Just a full-time executive in the auto industry who has driven most every vehicle that retails below $200,000, owned 106 different cars/trucks/SUV’s, and so on. I clearly don’t measure up against a consultant like yourself. Please post that video of where you were walking on water so we can truly see your greatness.

That’s nice but my engineering founder friend/classmate in the performance auto tuning industry doesn’t give the nod to the Telluride or the Ascent. He personally owns Toyota, BMW, and Hondas and makes racing products for all the various actual performance vehicles.

He’s worked on the factory racing teams for both Kia and later Ford.

His recommendation is the new RWD Explorer/Aviator platform, but I am very likely too cheap for that besides the fact this is just a mainstream boring 3 row hauler that my kids will destroy.

The very best engineering isn’t the top priority in this type of product but it’s a mainstream product and nobody is getting MSRP for more than a quarter, that’s reality just like Kia vs BMW.

 

[G-152889]

I don’t care for the ascent, it looks more like a station wagon than suv to me, and doesn’t have all the features that the telluride has. I agree that the dealers won’t be able to charge msrp for long.

But really I come to message boards like this to see two guys who can’t handle any real or perceived slight argue with strangers on the internet. So thanks for that.

 

[mrmac]

Well, let's see. Let's take the top of the line trim of the Telluride SX Prestige at MSRP: $47000.

For $47,000, what else could you get? I'm looking at listed Autotrader brand new vehicle prices btw.

1. 46490 - A brand new Chevrolet Tahoe LT
2. 40k-47k - Any luxury trim full size truck (f150 lariat, RAM Laramie, Silverado LTZ, Titan Platinum Reserve, Tundra Limited)
3. 46230 - Cadillac XT5 Luxury
4. 45k - Honda Pilot Elite
5. 47k - BMW X3, Audi Q5, MB GLC 300

I'm not saying that the Telluride is completely worthless next to the above, but you can admit that when you start to compare it to things like this, the value proposition goes down. The Telluride, like the Sorento, will end up closer to 42 or 43k when appropriately valued, and that is closer to where it succeeds, in my opinion.

Equivalent Tahoe MSRP is $78,400+
Equivalent Ram Laramie Longhorn MSRP is $68,000+
Equivalent XT5 Platinum MSRP is $66,890+
Equivalent Pilot AWD with 20 inch Black Alloy wheels MSRP $50,000 and a crappy ride and clumsy set of controls
BMW X3 and Audi Q5 don’t compare, they are too small.
Audi Q7 Prestige MSRP is $68,700 plus...

 

[syadasti]

K900 is the reality of Kia versus actual luxury offerings. It's a failure even compared to the Genesis branding which also has little to no traction.

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[mrmac]

Well, let's see. Let's take the top of the line trim of the Telluride SX Prestige at MSRP: $47000.

For $47,000, what else could you get? I'm looking at listed Autotrader brand new vehicle prices btw.

1. 46490 - A brand new Chevrolet Tahoe LT
2. 40k-47k - Any luxury trim full size truck (f150 lariat, RAM Laramie, Silverado LTZ, Titan Platinum Reserve, Tundra Limited)
3. 46230 - Cadillac XT5 Luxury
4. 45k - Honda Pilot Elite
5. 47k - BMW X3, Audi Q5, MB GLC 300

I'm not saying that the Telluride is completely worthless next to the above, but you can admit that when you start to compare it to things like this, the value proposition goes down. The Telluride, like the Sorento, will end up closer to 42 or 43k when appropriately valued, and that is closer to where it succeeds, in my opinion.

However, the $47,330 MSRP has an invoice of $44,000, so we are close to agreement on that. Then factor in the warrant and technology, it is a bargain. Again, this is my opinion. I am primarily a financial economist who

K900 is the reality of Kia versus actual luxury offerings. It's a failure even compared to the Genesis branding which also has little to no traction.

I agree.

 

[Haus]

Equivalent Tahoe MSRP is $78,400+
Equivalent Ram Laramie Longhorn MSRP is $68,000+
Equivalent XT5 Platinum MSRP is $66,890+
Equivalent Pilot AWD with 20 inch Black Alloy wheels MSRP $50,000 and a crappy ride and clumsy set of controls
BMW X3 and Audi Q5 don’t compare, they are too small.
Audi Q7 Prestige MSRP is $68,700 plus...

That's what I'm saying. A lot of these manufacturers take off 10-15k off MSRP out the gate. I would never buy a modern vehicle at MSRP unless it is known to be a particularly ageless vehicle (4runner, Wrangler, Tacoma).

I don't think you should settle for MSRP, especially when waiting a few months will inevitably bring the discounts found on ALL Kia/Hyundai products.

 

[ballistic]

when we talk about the k900 here are we referring to the old one or the new one? i think the new one is pretty damn competitive. and i also think the telluride is a very similar vehicle to the bmw x5. it may not be on par with the x5, but it's pretty close. cadillac's cts was never on par with the bmw 5 series, but it was pretty damn close, and considered a legit competitor.

 

[syadasti]

when we talk about the k900 here are we referring to the old one or the new one? i think the new one is pretty damn competitive. and i also think the telluride is a very similar vehicle to the bmw x5. it may not be on par with the x5, but it's pretty close. cadillac's cts was never on par with the bmw 5 series, but it was pretty damn close, and considered a legit competitor.

The new Explorer platform is RWD longitudinal, the Telluride is not. Just like the X5, still not a similar platform, engineering, quality, dealership, and/or marketing wise.

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[Kamauxx]

I don’t care for the ascent, it looks more like a station wagon than suv to me, and doesn’t have all the features that the telluride has. I agree that the dealers won’t be able to charge msrp for long.

But really I come to message boards like this to see two guys who can’t handle any real or perceived slight argue with strangers on the internet. So thanks for that.

I agree. The Ascent is a tall wagon. But the Java Brown leather interior is beautiful!

 

[CAsuKiHy]

Cmon guys don’t compare KIA to BMW. I had Acura and have BMW, even though it’s leaking oil, BMW is a car from different Universe, just when u sit in it.

 

[Kamauxx]

I was thinking about selling my Stinger and getting into something German.

I tested a new (2018 MY leftover) A6, couple year old low mile A8, 2018 550i, and a 2019 E class (I forget the exact model).

The BMW's interior and infotainment screen looked like they were from 2010. The A8 rattled and clanked when I shut the door. The A6, aside from sporting hard plastics in places they shouldn't be and me hitting my head when I got in wasn't bad, but it wasn't better than my Stinger, especially when you factor in interior space, performance, price, and maintenance.

The only one that impressed me is the Mercedes. My wife fell in love with the interior. But again, for the price and performance it just didn't make sense.

I'm not nearly as impressed by the "quality" of German brands as some here are. Judging by how rapid and dramatically they depreciate I'd say I'm not alone. Cool badges though!

 

[G-581939]

MSRP IS $47330. I texted with my dealer this morning. There are no incentives yet, so my price before is $43,480. 00

There is rebates on the car. He is bullshitting u.

I can Deff get u a good deal