Trailer Hitch

[utmeep]

Texas law for trailer brakes are 4800 I believe. A lot of boat trailers have hydraulic brakes that come on as the car slows down and are activated by the tongue slipping toward the car which applys the brake on the trailer. Check out the old Skeeter boat trailers which most welded the tongue because the tires would lock up as you backed down the ramp. Electric brakes are the way to go and yes KIA dropped the ball by not adding the brake booster and 7 pin conn-ection to the Telluride.

What mid-sized suv has a brake booster and 7-pin?

 

[2020Telly]

What mid-sized suv has a brake booster and 7-pin?

Dodge markets the towing capacity of the Durango just about as much as Kia has been flaunting the 5,000 lb ability and the towing package includes:

Trailer-Tow Group IV
7-and 4-Pin Wiring Harness
Class IV Receiver-Hitch
Compact Spare Tire
20-Inch x 6.5-Inch Aluminum Spare Wheel
Trailer Brake Control

 

[utmeep]

So

Dodge markets the towing capacity of the Durango just about as much as Kia has been flaunting the 5,000 lb ability and the towing package includes:

Trailer-Tow Group IV
7-and 4-Pin Wiring Harness
Class IV Receiver-Hitch
Compact Spare Tire
20-Inch x 6.5-Inch Aluminum Spare Wheel
Trailer Brake Control

so that's 1. What else?

 

[monkeyman]

So

so that's 1. What else?

Honda Pilot has a 7 pin and brake controller wiring.

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[utmeep]

Honda Pilot has a 7 pin and brake controller wiring.

No brake controller.

 

[2020Telly]

No brake controller.

So? It’s prewired for one. So all you need is a harness to connect instead of splicing into cables.

 

[2020Telly]

So

so that's 1. What else?

I think you may be missing the point that other people on this forum are trying to make to Kia. Other manufacturers advertised an impressive towing capacity then offered a towing package that can get you to spec. In the case of the Telluride, Kia marketed a 5,000 lb towing capacity and even sells an optional towing package but does not offer you a way to get more than 3,510 lbs. If you want to get to 5,000lbs you need to ditch the factory tow hitch with the 351lbs tongue weight and you need to be willing to splice into your vehicle wiring to remain legal is most states in the US.

 

[monkeyman]

So? It’s prewired for one. So all you need is a harness to connect instead of splicing into cables.

Yes. You buy a brake controller and adapter and plug it in. Buy the Honda hitch and 7 pin harness kit and plug them in. I looked at the Atlas at one point and the tow package had spots prewired for 7 pin and brake controller too.

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[utmeep]

I think you may be missing the point that other people on this forum are trying to make to Kia. Other manufacturers advertised an impressive towing capacity then offered a towing package that can get you to spec. In the case of the Telluride, Kia marketed a 5,000 lb towing capacity and even sells an optional towing package but does not offer you a way to get more than 3,510 lbs. If you want to get to 5,000lbs you need to ditch the factory tow hitch with the 351lbs tongue weight and you need to be willing to splice into your vehicle wiring to remain legal is most states in the US.

You also don't get my point. There are MORE manufacturers out there doing the same thing Kia is.

 

[2020Telly]

You also don't get my point. There are MORE manufacturers out there doing the same thing Kia is.

Not really. All the ones that advertise a high towing max also offer and document a way to get there. Take for instance the Kia Sorento, they advertise in the manual specs and when you add towing option you get to the max. With Telluride Kia is selling you a lower max package and options and not offering a way to get to 5,000.

 

[Lou Panozzo]

You also don't get my point. There are MORE manufacturers out there doing the same thing Kia is.

Really?

I think you may be missing the point that other people on this forum are trying to make to Kia. Other manufacturers advertised an impressive towing capacity then offered a towing package that can get you to spec. In the case of the Telluride, Kia marketed a 5,000 lb towing capacity and even sells an optional towing package but does not offer you a way to get more than 3,510 lbs. If you want to get to 5,000lbs you need to ditch the factory tow hitch with the 351lbs tongue weight and you need to be willing to splice into your vehicle wiring to remain legal is most states in the US.

kia is misleading the customer. I know “read the fine print” there is no question there should have been a 7 pin connector with brake controller wiring ready to go. My boat uses a 7 pin connector. I need the brake light to Deactivate the surge breaks when backing up. Come on Kia make us a factory wiring package kit to correct your mistake on my 50k KIA

 

[Wap52]

What mid-sized suv has a brake booster and 7-pin?

Don’t know of any but looks like this option that would be a selling point when tow package is ordered on car

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[drizzt]

Really?

kia is misleading the customer. I know “read the fine print” there is no question there should have been a 7 pin connector with brake controller wiring ready to go. My boat uses a 7 pin connector. I need the brake light to Deactivate the surge breaks when backing up. Come on Kia make us a factory wiring package kit to correct your mistake on my 50k KIA

Take a look at this guy's post about installing brake controller at UHaul. He said 7-pin connector is just behind the 4-pin one.
EDIT: And he uses wireless break controller that is activated by using smart phone app, so no wiring involved or ugly controller installation in cabin area.

Successfully towing my 3822lb Camper this weekend

Hey gang, I've got 4000 miles on my Telly EX here in NH-- Posted a few times regarding the tow frustrations, since we got it to tow this beauty (2005 Dutchman Cub; 3822lb dry, 4840 GVWR) a few times a year a short distance here in NH. We got hitch installed at dealer; then had UHaul fit us up...

tellurideforum.org

 

[2020Telly]

Take a look at this guy's post about installing brake controller at UHaul. He said 7-pin connector is just behind the 4-pin one.
EDIT: And he uses wireless break controller that is activated by using smart phone app, so no wiring involved or ugly controller installation in cabin area.

Successfully towing my 3822lb Camper this weekend

Hey gang, I've got 4000 miles on my Telly EX here in NH-- Posted a few times regarding the tow frustrations, since we got it to tow this beauty (2005 Dutchman Cub; 3822lb dry, 4840 GVWR) a few times a year a short distance here in NH. We got hitch installed at dealer; then had UHaul fit us up...

tellurideforum.org

It’s not about the mounting. It’s about splicing your vehicle wiring vs. a conveniently engineered and positioned location to use a connector instead of splicing. The wireless brake controller is really innovative but still requires a 7-pin connection to be powered and interface with signals from wiring. If you take your Telluride to an installer you risk that they split the wrong wire or snip the wrong cable then your might have lighting or electrical problems later as the vehicle ages. A properly engineered connection allows for a DIY or a more reassuring aftermarket install.

 

[Gwyn]

The only ones that I have seen pull this is Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai. Even Subaru added 7 pin and everything but no brake controller.

 

[Wap52]

The only ones that I have seen pull this is Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai. Even Subaru added 7 pin and everything but no brake controller.

Maybe I said it wrong meant to say wiring for a 7 pin
Most controllers are for tandem axle hauling trailers

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[2020Telly]

Maybe I said it wrong meant to say wiring for a 7 pin
Most controllers are for tandem axle hauling trailers

By Kia’s own admission in the Telluride manual they recommend a brake controller. Hence the inconsistency when they offer a tow option with a lower than max tongue weight and an upgraded tow package that is self leveling shocks that don’t help you get any additional towing. Along with no easy 7-pin harness. The weight and brake requirements vary by state.

 

[Lou Panozzo]

We need to lump all the towing threads together. I heard back from www.trailerjacks.com They said they should have a 7 pin plug-in kit RV set up kit available in a month for the Kia Telluride. Like this one! 7 Way RV Trailer Wiring For 07-19 Kia Sorento 13-18 Hyundai Santa Fe 15-18 Sedona 07-12 Veracruz Plug Prong Pin Brake Control Ready

 

[G-867287]

So Im reading that some people are asking if the Telluride can have a 7 pin connector installed. The answer is yes any after market brake controller can be installed in the Telluride. This is a new vehicle and with that time is needed to figure these out. But go to a pro trailer sales company and they will be able to install it. Kia has them come through with the 4 plug because that is the easiest to install. Stop blaming Kia for you not doing your homework and knowing what you are buying.

 

[alexdrums]

Does anyone know what class the OEM hitch is?