Hey Rigit do you mind posting or sending me a PM with the name/number of your installer. If I can buy the harness from them I would install the Fortin unit myself. Maybe they discovered that a harness for a different Kia or Hyundai model works.
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Hey Rigit do you mind posting or sending me a PM with the name/number of your installer. If I can buy the harness from them I would install the Fortin unit myself. Maybe they discovered that a harness for a different Kia or Hyundai model works.
I don't have it with me. I am out of town on business right now. I will find out when I get back in town in a couple of weeks. From what it sounds like they probably had it made. I am sure Fortin has to have a steady supplier to support all they sell. I take pictures of everything and I wish i would have taken a picture of this. It really seems like maybe more of a wire loom that runs from one side of the vehicle to the other and plugs directly into the source rather than tapping into a wire itself. I looked at what those t-harnesses look like and this did look like that for the most part but was much longer and ran from one side of the car to the other. It seems like it plugged into something on the passenger side kick panel and ran over to the drivers side and plugged into the module and what ever was on the drivers side of the car. That is about as good as I can explain it.
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I was told the same thing by the dealer that it doesn't have remote start. However, they are wrong. it does through the UVO app. I was able to download it through the play store and activate it, and I can now remotely start my vehicle as well as unlock/lock the doors
I'm curious why nobody had expanded on this idea. I don't have my Telluride yet, does it tell how to program a fob in the owners manual?
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I'm guessing a dealer would have to program the new FOB. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see the Palisade remote remote starting a Telluride or even allowing the push button start to start the car.
The whole thing really makes no sense. Palisade has remote start on the FOB and gets three years of remote start through the Blue Link APP. Telluride has no FOB remote start and only gets one year of remote start through the UVO app. The UVO app also doesn't allow to send POIs to the car. Hyundai Blue Link does.
Hello everyone, some of you may have already ran into the kia owners portal, but I hadn't until just now so I thought others may also benefit. You get to it by logging into Kia Owners Portal using your email/phone and password you've setup in the Kia access app. The site actually gives you access to all the functions we have through the app, besides also allowing you to renew the subscription when it expires and telling you the cost. FYI, the free one-year subscription we all have is for the Ultimate package.The app is free but you pay a subscription fee
bogie
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Heard back from a Viper dealer... "Viper doesn’t offer a solution for your vehicle. Do have a compustar DC3 module that will do the 3xlock start. Unfortunately there isn’t a t-harness available for this vehicle."
Not sure if that means Viper doesn't have anything for the Telluride, or nothing that does 3X-lock from OEM key fob...
Think I'll suffer thru with the UVO app until someone has the t-harness for a plug-and-play install - don't like the idea of splicing
Not sure if that means Viper doesn't have anything for the Telluride, or nothing that does 3X-lock from OEM key fob...
Think I'll suffer thru with the UVO app until someone has the t-harness for a plug-and-play install - don't like the idea of splicing
bogie
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Got a follow up email from the Viper dealer...
"To give you more info. The remote start harnesses are never plug and play for these vehicles. There is always some wires needed to be spliced in."
FWIW - could be their way of trying to convince me to come in for their $50 off special thru Sat...
Two sources also indicated the range for remote starting the car with the 3X-lock from the OEM fob is limited to the same range at which you can lock your car (makes sense if it's 3X-lock that starts it). Not sure how far that is... need to test it I guess...
IMHO - probably a good idea to wait a while and use the free app in the meantime...
"To give you more info. The remote start harnesses are never plug and play for these vehicles. There is always some wires needed to be spliced in."
FWIW - could be their way of trying to convince me to come in for their $50 off special thru Sat...
Two sources also indicated the range for remote starting the car with the 3X-lock from the OEM fob is limited to the same range at which you can lock your car (makes sense if it's 3X-lock that starts it). Not sure how far that is... need to test it I guess...
IMHO - probably a good idea to wait a while and use the free app in the meantime...
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The range isn't bad. Seems to be about like all of our other cars were. It seems to actually work better than my new truck. Sitting in a restaurant and not being able to see the car it will start. Going through probably two walls and the car parked probably 50 yards away.Got a follow up email from the Viper dealer...
"To give you more info. The remote start harnesses are never plug and play for these vehicles. There is always some wires needed to be spliced in."
FWIW - could be their way of trying to convince me to come in for their $50 off special thru Sat...
Two sources also indicated the range for remote starting the car with the 3X-lock from the OEM fob is limited to the same range at which you can lock your car (makes sense if it's 3X-lock that starts it). Not sure how far that is... need to test it I guess...
IMHO - probably a good idea to wait a while and use the free app in the meantime...
I think when/if I do pull the trigger on an aftermarket remote start I'll go with the idatalink HC2, which includes two 2-way keyfobs (hence gives you a confirmation that the command has been executed successfully), and increases the range to 3000 feet. I found a Canadian company that sells them the cheapest I've seen so far, Lockdown Security "Connected Car Experts", $299 canadian, or $229, free shipping to the US. Idatastart has t-harnesses for several Kia models, just not for the Telluride yet, so I'll definitely wait for that to be released before doing anything, not trying to do all that splicing.
To add as I have said earlier in this thread the company that did mine said they wouldn't splice anything and it wouldn't void any warranties. They did have something that looked like a harness but after seeing people post that there is none for this specific installation I believe it was more of something they may have made or even utilized another t-harness for another application and just enhanced it to fit their needs. It did appear to maybe even be a conduit of some sort to be able to run the wires across the width of the vehicle so they could tap into the source of where the wire came from instead of tapping into the wire itself. I was able to kind of watch them install it and I never saw them tap into any wires. Doesn't mean they couldn't squeeze it by me but I just never saw them do it.
Just a question about the idatalink. Do you know it you would still have to carry the original remote to do thinks like the approach lighting and the hands free tailgate to work? I am not sure what brands the installers i used had but they said they all required you to carry your original key fob to get that to work if I sprang for an installation with a separate key fob so I really didn't look into those. Already have mine installed so was just curious.
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Most push button start vehicles have a process to add a lost fob. The one I posted as an example is for a C7 Corvette. I would assume that the hardware is the same for both the Telluride and the Palisade, but the VIN may come into play, which would eliminate any possibility of it working. The process for the Corvette is as follows: The vette has unconventional doors with a push pad, when you squeeze the pad to open the door it prompts a computer called the RCDLR to look for a signal. When it receives a signal from the fob in your pocket, it checks that it is correct and it sends a ground to the motor that releases the door. It then sends a signal to the BCM and asks if everything is ok. If everything is ok with the BCM, then the BCM will send a hot to the motor and the motor will turn, opening the door. The push button start is basically the same procedure, but it seems like I remember that the VIN may be part of the signal information, which would be different between a Telluride and a Palisade.
That's a very good point, I hadn't thought about that. I tried to do a pretty thorough search and couldn't find anything documenting whether idatalink's keyfobs would work with proximity keyless entry. I may call lockdownsecurity tomorrow and ask. I called them once to ask whether a t-harness had been made for the Telluride and they seemed pretty knowledgeable.
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I have called about 5 different alarm/stereo installers in SoCal area and no one does the remote start install..
Has anyone found someone in the area of San Bernardino or Los Angeles area to install the remote start?
All help appreciated
Has anyone found someone in the area of San Bernardino or Los Angeles area to install the remote start?
All help appreciated
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FWIW...
Contacted Lockdown Security, not good news re: t-harness... did not remember to ask about fobs (@nprez83 - did you call?)
Here is the thread:
On October 14, 2019, 2:53 PM EDT bogie wrote:
Would be very interested in this unit when a t-harness becomes available.
There are several others on a forum that have said the same thing...
Are there plans to make the t-harness for the 2020 Kia Telluride?
If so, any ETA?
I'll pass along pertinent info to the forum.
Thanks.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:25 AM Jeff Bates <jeff@lockdownsecurity.ca> wrote:
Good Morning
Our info shows nothing available t-harness wise yet for the Telluride. No way of knowing when they will release one, or *if* one will be released. We have a number of new Hyundai t-harnesses out this season, but none of them cover the Telluride (or similar Palisade from Hyundai).
We do have the iDatastart HC series of remote starters, and the Compustar DC3 that has firmware coverage for the Telluride, but these are all hardwired (spliced in) connections.
You may see the install guide in the link below:
It's not a bad install (difficulty wise) but it is all spliced in connections.
Regards Jeff Bates
Lockdown Security155 McIntosh Drive Unit 5 & 6Markham, OntarioL3R0N6
Toll Free: 1-(866)-824-4118
Local: 647-439-4485
Fax: 647-361-7523
Website: www.lockdownsecurity.ca
Youtube: Lockdown Security
Contacted Lockdown Security, not good news re: t-harness... did not remember to ask about fobs (@nprez83 - did you call?)
Here is the thread:
On October 14, 2019, 2:53 PM EDT bogie wrote:
Would be very interested in this unit when a t-harness becomes available.
There are several others on a forum that have said the same thing...
Are there plans to make the t-harness for the 2020 Kia Telluride?
If so, any ETA?
I'll pass along pertinent info to the forum.
Thanks.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:25 AM Jeff Bates <jeff@lockdownsecurity.ca> wrote:
Good Morning
Our info shows nothing available t-harness wise yet for the Telluride. No way of knowing when they will release one, or *if* one will be released. We have a number of new Hyundai t-harnesses out this season, but none of them cover the Telluride (or similar Palisade from Hyundai).
We do have the iDatastart HC series of remote starters, and the Compustar DC3 that has firmware coverage for the Telluride, but these are all hardwired (spliced in) connections.
You may see the install guide in the link below:
It's not a bad install (difficulty wise) but it is all spliced in connections.
Regards Jeff Bates
Lockdown Security155 McIntosh Drive Unit 5 & 6Markham, OntarioL3R0N6
Toll Free: 1-(866)-824-4118
Local: 647-439-4485
Fax: 647-361-7523
Website: www.lockdownsecurity.ca
Youtube: Lockdown Security
Time for kia to reconsider their subscription pricing for UVO.
Ford makes FordPass smartphone connectivity free
Ford makes FordPass smartphone connectivity free
As long as they don't start charging Ford prices... nor replace soft touch materials with hard plastic.
I finally got around to calling them and unfortunately they said none of the aftermarket key fobs work with the proximity features of any car, so we would indeed have to carry the factory keyfob in addition to the aftermarket one. Even more importantly, he said if we didn't have the factory keyfob on us, we wouldn't even be able to start the car, which seems obvious once he mentioned it, but I hadn't thought about it at all. He suggested the best set up is to use the app for remote start when at a distance and the factory keyfob + HCX (programmed to remote start with lock x3), if within line of sight.
