Jeep Grand Cherokee L OR 22 Telluride SX NF Prestige

[MG535]

The comparison was more for what you can get for the appx same money.

It’s not really apples to apples: a very poorly spec’d Tahoe for the same price or more than a fully loaded Telluride.

“Always get more than you need” were not your exact words but it’s a pretty accurate paraphrasing of them. It’s a mentality I’ve never understood; guess I never will. Anyway by that logic just get a Suburban.

Anyone needing to tow more than 5,000 lbs the Telluride was never in the conversation any way

 

[Csherwood]

Forgot one, Jeep has Quadra-Lift Air Suspension system, Kia has less than optimal self-leveling shocks as an "upgrade" to the rear suspension.

The Jeep brand also has a plethora of aftermarket options and upgrades, the Kia Telluride isn't quite there yet.

I also haven't seen a side-by-side comparison, but I would guess that the Jeep Quadra-Drive II 4x4 System with Rear Electronic Limited-Slip Differential and the available Selec-Terrain Traction Management System is a more capable 4x4 over than the all-wheel drive system option for the Telluride that does not have a true locking differential.

If I were in the market right now and looking to spend low $50k's and get better towing capacity, it would be tough to not consider the 2022 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD. Looks like a serious contender to the Telluride. The outgoing AWD system on the Pathfinder looks similar to the Telluride where it activated when it detected front wheels slipping, the new 4WD system on the Pathfinder sounds more off-road ready.

Still love my Telluride, but I'm looking for even more from Kia in the future!

Looked at the Nissan, it's a pretty 1:1 competitor but honestly there were some serious mini-gripes. I couldn't get over the digital gear selector, the flat bottomed steering wheel was just plain uncomfortable, and the ProPILOT Assist wanted me to grip the steering wheel harder than I would if I were driving without assistance, I couldn't even imagine my Wife using it.

On the styling front the Pathfinder had a lot of cheap plastic accents that really went overboard as compared to the Telluride. A good 4" length on the car is from front/rear plastic kitting. They also are sans a Midnight edition for 2022 so no direct 1:1 for blacking some of this plastic out.

 

[NCBill]

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[Lj1090]

I'd say the engine refinement is about the same. It seems that the Pentastar V6 revs a bit higher when accelerating or passing.


No.

The seat comfort is about the same. Both are Nappa leather.

UConnect 5 can be a tad laggy but it boots up instantly. That's one annoyance with the Telluride 0-- when starting it can take awhile for UVO to boot.


I got the 20" wheels with Bridgestones. I think the Kia might be a little quieter.

Not really. I have GEICO's mechanical breakdown insurance included in my policy which has a very reasonable deductible.


It was very easy because I (1) knew what I wanted; (2) arrived early; (3) had worked the numbers; and (4) knew that the dealership had 50+ JGCs in stock. Also, most customer buy lower trims (e.g., Limited, Altitude), so the dealership is eager to move the higher trims.



It depends. I think I got a great deal (1.2% below invoice), but Jeeps take a huge depreciation hit. I think a loaded JGC-L is a near luxury vehicle that's considerably cheaper that its luxury rivals (Audi Q7,Cadillac XT6, etc.). I think the Kia is a great value, particularly if you pay below MSRP.

How do you pay below MSRP when most dealers try to get you to think most everyone is paying $5-10K above sticker for the Telluride? We paid $48,835 sticker for 2022 Gravity Gray SX prestige with Dune Brown, cargo cover and carpeted floor mats but waited 6 months for delivery.

How on earth did you get the GCL overland 4x4 with Pro tech and luxury tech groups and get $500 off invoice? Guessing after destination fees your sticker was $63K and you paid between $58-59K? Seems only high volume dealers that get kick backs from Chrysler for meeting sakes volume quotas could go that low. If I could have received $5K below sticker I may have done a stripped down overland GCL in 4x2 for cost savings instead of Telluride SX Prestige. Though only cosmetic, big deal breaker for us when we placed order for GCL limited 4x4 with luxury and pro tech back in 6/21 was they were already beginning to strip the air suspension from overland orders, you have to get summit or higher in order to get the two tone Baltic Gray with the black roof and they were also already starting to strip orders on the limited of the luxury tech group where you get the ventilated seats and heads up display.

Ultimately the packing structure of Jeep left us scratching our heads....you can load up a limited gcl and have a few things that you still don't get on base overland trim and conversely there is also a few things you get on base overland trim that you didn't get loading up the limited trim. Then we saw if you loaded up overland trim you might as well get summit trim. And if you're going to get the summit trim you might as well get summit reserve trim because it includes 4WD standard already priced in and you get quilted Palermo seats (which I guess are similar to semi-aniline).

Then we also realized that getting 4x4 on limited trim was a waste of money because you don't get the dampening air suspension then also thought what is a jeep without 4x4? I got a much better feel out of the V6 Kia Engine than V6 GCL engine. Car and Driver agrees that the GCL V6 runs quite a bit slower due to weight and transmission refinement.

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[ELCapiTRAN]

If money isn't a factor, then Jeep. It has options and features that surpass the telluride.

 

[Mnm17]

I actually traded in my 2020 Telluride EX for a white jeep GCL overland and just traded it in for a Telluride SX. I have to say the overland is stunning. Had everything and more then i could ask for, BUT for me personally i missed my telluride. The Jeep GCL was a boat and very cumbersome. It felt so "heavy" to drive and always was making clicking sounds. tech issues too. I understand it the first year for those so working out glitches, but I just loved my telluride so much i traded back!

 

[trimbornunc86]

I actually traded in my 2020 Telluride EX for a white jeep GCL overland and just traded it in for a Telluride SX. I have to say the overland is stunning. Had everything and more then i could ask for, BUT for me personally i missed my telluride. The Jeep GCL was a boat and very cumbersome. It felt so "heavy" to drive and always was making clicking sounds. tech issues too. I understand it the first year for those so working out glitches, but I just loved my telluride so much i traded back!

When you had the jeep GCL overland, did you happen to use android auto or apple car play with it? Im really curious (i havent found the anwser yet) if the navigation turns while using AA or Carplay show up in the digital instrument cluster and or the HUD.

 

[Mnm17]

I did use apple carplay and it was very spotty. Sometimes it would connect as soon as i turn the car on , and sometimes it would connect 30 minutes after. All of a sudden BAM! spotify would start playing. I've had to always do "hard reset" to reboot it. The nav on carplay doesn't show up in digital cluster. The only NAV that shows up in cluster is the cars navigation system (TomTom).

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[trimbornunc86]

I did use apple carplay and it was very spotty. Sometimes it would connect as soon as i turn the car on , and sometimes it would connect 30 minutes after. All of a sudden BAM! spotify would start playing. I've had to always do "hard reset" to reboot it. The nav on carplay doesn't show up in digital cluster. The only NAV that shows up in cluster is the cars navigation system (TomTom).

Got ya, thanks for the info! That seems to be the standard for the majority of automakers these days which drives me crazy. my 2019 honda accord was able to show the carplay info in both the digital cluster and the HUD...

 

[Alan]

I actually traded in my 2020 Telluride EX for a white jeep GCL overland and just traded it in for a Telluride SX. I have to say the overland is stunning. Had everything and more then i could ask for, BUT for me personally i missed my telluride. The Jeep GCL was a boat and very cumbersome. It felt so "heavy" to drive and always was making clicking sounds. tech issues too. I understand it the first year for those so working out glitches, but I just loved my telluride so much i traded back!

My wife really wanted the GCL but I showed her the red flags on the Jeep forums and that was enough to change her mind. Life's too short to be dealing with new vehicle issues and running back and forth to the dealer with tech issues, dead batteries and getting locked out of your car!. Unfortunately, it's much the same with the new G. Wagoneer and Wagoneer models too. They certainly look capable and impressive on the commercials but quality and reliability are major concerns!

 

[Zhiyako]

Despite what I said in post #14, I traded my Palisade in for a loaded '21 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland this past Saturday.

Let me explain.

I'd been thinking about trading out of the Pali for awhile. It's a great vehicle; very soft-riding, etc. But I started to feel that it was a bit blah. I like the Kia so much more. Reading that many Pali owners were getting top dollar, I decided to make my move.

I did a lot of research on the '21 JGC. I read every online review and watched nearly every YouTube review. Nearly everyone remarked about how it's much improved over the WK2. I also watched a video on Stellantis's rebuilding of the factory and attention to quality control. So I decided to move forward.

The next question was trim. All of my previous JGCs were Summits. Now the top trim levels are Overland, Summit, and Summit Reserve. Since I wanted the McIntosh sound system, that narrowed the choices down to either a loaded Overland or a Summit Reserve. I opted for a fully loaded Overland. The MSRP is 4k lower than the SR. I realized that the 3 main differences between the Overland and the SR (noise cancellation, self-parking, rear laminated glass), didn't really matter to me.

So I identified a few that I liked in Chicagoland and drove to the first dealership on my list. I set the bar pretty high -- if the JGC didn't knock my socks off I wouldn't proceed. But it did. The drive, interior quality, and attention to detail are truly amazing.

I got the JGC for 1.2% below invoice. The trade-in-value for the Pali was just $250 less that I paid for it. Initially the dealership asked for MSRP for the JGC and offered less for the Pali. But I let them know that I knew the market and would walk. So my final deal was $6k less than what was offered initially.

The Kia is my daily driver and the JGC is reserved for weekends and road trips.

I'm happy to answer questions!

So between the telluride and the JGC, which one's rides more comfortable/quiet?

 

[Wee]

So between the telluride and the JGC, which one's rides more comfortable/quiet?

Check out the Car Confections youtube channel. They do a interior noise reading on all their reviews. I think the Telly came in in the low 50's decibel

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[voxel]

So between the telluride and the JGC, which one's rides more comfortable/quiet?

Telluride easily.

I picked up a 23 GC Limited and it's pretty fricking loud on the highways... low/mid-80 db. Telluride is upper-60s as I recall.

Everything is better on the 22 SX (if comparing with the similar Limited 4x4 trim) except the clearance/suspension. I'd be leery of light off-roading the Telly but now there's the X-Pro trim so maybe it swings back to the Telluride.