SX Headlights

[TheNip73]

Déjà vu you sound like my pops .lol

Your pops is wise

 

[Bohen]

On a side note though it has nothing to do with the headlights .
I do plan on buying the fiber optic lighting kit and doing the headliner to mimic Rolls R . I think it would look really nice especially since I have the dark colored headliner and the way that it is set up .

Kia did very well on this vehicle .

 

[malimal]

recently bought a used 2020 telly...Glad I found this post. I got flashed and a middle finger from someone this morning...lol going to see about getting them adjusted.

 

[DJMagicMelliott]

Here is how you lower your LED headlights so that people don't flash you.

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[PittPa]

So with it getting darker now, (here in Western PA, around 5 ) the increased night driving has increased the oncoming flashes of cars thinking I'm driving around with my high beams on. I was finishing a long drive with my son driving and me being able to observe the light dispersal and a couple or points I noticed: The low beam dispersal isn't dramatically different from the high beam path. The high beam just lighten up the area greater. I have mentioned this before and even took my car to the dealer that ordered new lights and replaced them. I thought it improved the situation but it seems no better. I was told that despite what was posted above, these lights are nonadjustable. I guess I could turn them down as the above post mentions but I am just guessing at the settings that should be set from the factory. My take is that the lights are just brighter than most drivers are accustom to and you are shortening your headlight range by turning them down in an attempt to fix the situation. It's just getting a bit frustrating driving around with one hand on the high beam stock ready retaliate.

 

[TheNip73]

So with it getting darker now, (here in Western PA, around 5 ) the increased night driving has increased the oncoming flashes of cars thinking I'm driving around with my high beams on. I was finishing a long drive with my son driving and me being able to observe the light dispersal and a couple or points I noticed: The low beam dispersal isn't dramatically different from the high beam path. The high beam just lighten up the area greater. I have mentioned this before and even took my car to the dealer that ordered new lights and replaced them. I thought it improved the situation but it seems no better. I was told that despite what was posted above, these lights are nonadjustable. I guess I could turn them down as the above post mentions but I am just guessing at the settings that should be set from the factory. My take is that the lights are just brighter than most drivers are accustom to and you are shortening your headlight range by turning them down in an attempt to fix the situation. It's just getting a bit frustrating driving around with one hand on the high beam stock ready retaliate.

Be careful with retaliation- oncoming driver is already blinded and you give them full power - they might really go blind and lose control. Poor judgement in my opinion.

 

[PittPa]

Be careful with retaliation- oncoming driver is already blinded and you give them full power - they might really go blind and lose control. Poor judgement in my opinion.

Retaliation in a sense to indicate that I do not have my high beams on. Despite my lights being bright, they are not as bright has oncoming high beams. And then I am the one that is going blind and losing control.

 

[T’Ride]

Off topic but…. I wish that more manufacturers would connect the fog lights to a rear “hazard” (bright tail light that comes on only when fog lights are in use) light like Audi and BMW. This allows drivers a better chance of seeing you when approaching from behind in the fog.

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[TheNip73]

Agreed.

Had this on my Volvo. I think it is a smart feature.

 

[Tellthemride]

Off topic but…. I wish that more manufacturers would connect the fog lights to a rear “hazard” (bright tail light that comes on only when fog lights are in use) light like Audi and BMW. This allows drivers a better chance of seeing you when approaching from behind in the fog.

It is available in the UAE spec Telluride. Not commonly used enough across all US car makes to make it available for US it seems.

One owner, mrad31, was able to retrofit in his Telluride. So it is possible.

Turn Lights

My Telluride is GT line (top line, the lower is SX-EX-LX) all trims in Saudi Arabia comes with orange turn lights on the lower bumper, looks cheap, any idea how make turn lights flashing from break lights (LED on GT line and SX) like American and Canadian SX versions?

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[Tellthemride]

So with it getting darker now, (here in Western PA, around 5 ) the increased night driving has increased the oncoming flashes of cars thinking I'm driving around with my high beams on. I was finishing a long drive with my son driving and me being able to observe the light dispersal and a couple or points I noticed: The low beam dispersal isn't dramatically different from the high beam path. The high beam just lighten up the area greater. I have mentioned this before and even took my car to the dealer that ordered new lights and replaced them. I thought it improved the situation but it seems no better. I was told that despite what was posted above, these lights are nonadjustable. I guess I could turn them down as the above post mentions but I am just guessing at the settings that should be set from the factory. My take is that the lights are just brighter than most drivers are accustom to and you are shortening your headlight range by turning them down in an attempt to fix the situation. It's just getting a bit frustrating driving around with one hand on the high beam stock ready retaliate.

Two conclusions to be drawn:

1. There will always be old fashioned people who don’t understand LED headlight technology and think you have high beams on when using your lows. Can’t please them all.
2. Your dealer service department are incompetent. There has been no headlamp manufactured in the last half century that does not have aiming adjustments. Just print this TSB and show it to them to make them feel dumb. Nobody replaces a headlight assembly because the aim is slightly high.

PI 2001 - Product Improvement Campaign 202001 - LED Headlamp Aim Inspection

PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT CAMPAIGN SUBJECT: LIGHT EMITTING DIODE (LED) HEADLAMP AIM INSPECTION AND ADJUSTMENT The attached file combines four (4) Dealer Communication documents as listed on the NHTSA site. EDIT: 03/17/20, Attachment revised for addition of 'Dealer Principal' document".

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[arattle]

So with it getting darker now, (here in Western PA, around 5 ) the increased night driving has increased the oncoming flashes of cars thinking I'm driving around with my high beams on. I was finishing a long drive with my son driving and me being able to observe the light dispersal and a couple or points I noticed: The low beam dispersal isn't dramatically different from the high beam path. The high beam just lighten up the area greater. I have mentioned this before and even took my car to the dealer that ordered new lights and replaced them. I thought it improved the situation but it seems no better. I was told that despite what was posted above, these lights are nonadjustable. I guess I could turn them down as the above post mentions but I am just guessing at the settings that should be set from the factory. My take is that the lights are just brighter than most drivers are accustom to and you are shortening your headlight range by turning them down in an attempt to fix the situation. It's just getting a bit frustrating driving around with one hand on the high beam stock ready retaliate.

Ditto. My first few months were mostly driven by day, now I get to pick up my kid from daycare after dark and I get a few flashes every day. Hilly where I live, so it looks like I'm high-beaming people all the time. I honestly don't know if a few degrees' adjustment would help all that much, since I'd still be hitting people's eyes when going over a hill. But I'm going to try adjusting down just a bit.

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[DJMagicMelliott]

Be careful with retaliation- oncoming driver is already blinded and you give them full power - they might really go blind and lose control. Poor judgement in my opinion.

Recommendations to go ahead and do the adjustment and see what happens. There’s no test like an actual test.

 

[SBUBandit]

So I have an SX and I thought it was bad in general, but not nearly as bad as tonight. Imagine picking up flooring supplies from the ol' Home Depot and your rear end is down just a hair further than normal, pointing that beautiful light right into the eyes of ALL oncoming traffic the entire way home.

It was awful. Flashed at least 8 times. I felt so bad! But what am I gonna do? Turn the lights OFF?

This is where the tow package would have been helpful. The self leveling rear suspension would have kept the vehicle more level and not had the headlights up in the air.

 

[PittPa]

Two conclusions to be drawn:

1. There will always be old fashioned people who don’t understand LED headlight technology and think you have high beams on when using your lows. Can’t please them all.
2. Your dealer service department are incompetent. There has been no headlamp manufactured in the last half century that does not have aiming adjustments. Just print this TSB and show it to them to make them feel dumb. Nobody replaces a headlight assembly because the aim is slightly high.

PI 2001 - Product Improvement Campaign 202001 - LED Headlamp Aim Inspection

PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT CAMPAIGN SUBJECT: LIGHT EMITTING DIODE (LED) HEADLAMP AIM INSPECTION AND ADJUSTMENT The attached file combines four (4) Dealer Communication documents as listed on the NHTSA site. EDIT: 03/17/20, Attachment revised for addition of 'Dealer Principal' document".

tellurideforum.org

I reviewed the bulletin, thanks. One fact I found is why is this limited to only a certain number of models and a specific year? If it's the same headlights in all the cars, why does it end there and not extend to later years? When I read this before taking my car in, it is almost implied that a later headlight did not demonstrate this issue. In fact, when they put the new headlight in, it was much better immediately. Either I am getting more sensitive to oncoming drivers or the adjustments have crept out or spec. Getting a brand new set of headlights and it taking an hour was worth it anyway.

 

[Tellthemride]

I reviewed the bulletin, thanks. One fact I found is why is this limited to only a certain number of models and a specific year? If it's the same headlights in all the cars, why does it end there and not extend to later years? When I read this before taking my car in, it is almost implied that a later headlight did not demonstrate this issue. In fact, when they put the new headlight in, it was much better immediately. Either I am getting more sensitive to oncoming drivers or the adjustments have crept out or spec. Getting a brand new set of headlights and it taking an hour was worth it anyway.

Yes, I am certain all the LED headlamp assemblies are the same. The affected years/VIN numbers were just because they left the factory without proper aim adjustment. Therefore, adjustment can always be performed after delivery or during a service visit.

No different from how the tires leave the factory over inflated and need to be adjusted by the owners after delivery. You would not buy completely new tires to adjust air pressure.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the LED assemblies for sale on ebay (that members on this forum have been buying for upgrades) are being sold by Kia service techs pulling this ridiculous stunt telling customers their headlights have no adjustability.

On a last note about the LED headlamps, there are actually two low beam bulbs (low and sub low). For cars without the self leveling suspension, when carrying heavy load in the rear, would be pretty awesome if we could turn off the lows to prevent blinding and only use sub lows.

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[anakelly]

I have a 2021 Telluride and have this same problem with oncoming traffic thinking I have my brights on. I live in the Colorado mountains where I drive often on two lane roads so this is a major issue. It's irritating and dangerous having every 15th car flash me. I love the vehicle but this is enough of an issue that if KIA can't fix it I may return to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'm calling the dealer today to see if they have a fix.

 

[anakelly]

I have a 2021 Telluride and have this same problem with oncoming traffic thinking I have my brights on. I live in the Colorado mountains where I drive often on two lane roads so this is a major issue. It's irritating and dangerous having every 15th car flash me. I love the vehicle but this is enough of an issue that if KIA can't fix it I may return to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'm calling the dealer today to see if they have a fix.

Just spoke to service department at Kia Red Rock service department in Grand Junction, CO. Was told headlights can't be adjusted and there is nothing that can be done about this problem.

 

[Pappy]

Just spoke to service department at Kia Red Rock service department in Grand Junction, CO. Was told headlights can't be adjusted and there is nothing that can be done about this problem.

Go back with some printouts of the above posts and "educate "them. They can definitely be adjusted. Its amazing how some dealerships are just too lazy or don't care.

You might have better luck at another dealership.

Also if you read the above, there are a few YouTube videos on how to easily adjust them yourself. Good luck

 

[anakelly]

Thank you very much