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I was told I purchased the vehicle. They said the loan date was in December...
In the email you mention getting down payment back. Was the down payment just to hold it or did you actually sign all the paperwork associated with buying a new car? Im not following and sorry for asking but man.... This is just terrible. A new learning experience for those new to the forum.
 
Situation Update**
This is the General Manager's response:

Good afternoon. I understand your spoke with Kirk Preiss the store manager last night in regards to your incoming pre-held Telluride. It has been brought to my attention that the vehicle identification # to the Telluride we had coming in assigned to you has been re-routed to DCH Temecula. This is completely out of our control. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. With that said Kia Motor America has re-routed a different vehicle that we have assigned to you. # 5XYP64HC3LG075678. I understand you are very upset but unfortunately there is nothing we can do. For the inconvenience we can offer you a loaner vehicle at no additional charge for you to drive while your vehicle is in transit. This vehicle is slated to arrive in 3 weeks (2 weeks after the previous vehicle).


Again we apologize for any inconvenience. If you would like to make a formal complaint please call 866-331-5632


Here is my response:



Danielle,

This is a disappointing response to say the least. My message was not about being upset about a car but about the complete incompetence on the part of your dealership. I am attaching the back and forth between myself and your salesperson Troy.
Here are some highlights:

While buying the car I was told multiple times that the VIN already existed and the car was already built, it would be here no later than January 30th but could very easily come sooner than that. I was told there was a huge price increase coming in 2020 (it was less than $300), so I needed to order now. I was allowed to test drive a vehicle without having a license on my persons. I told him my license was in my car and he said it didn't matter...check the records, my license is not anywhere and was never seen or checked. I should have known then the caliber of dealership I was dealing with.

Bought a car on the 28th and asked what color interior was...no response ever.

Texted on January 15th, was told I would be gotten back to immediately, was not texted back until 24 hours later. Also was told it would be in no later by Monday (January 20th). Asked for clarification if that was correct...was never respond to.

Was texted January 18th if I wanted to come in and make a deal. Clearly has no idea who I am, complete ineptitude. When I then asked if my car was still coming Monday he said, this upcoming Monday (January 20th..again)..in fairness he said it wasn't 100%

Texted him on January 27th and asked for an update would told I would be contacted the next day. Was never contacted and had to reach out. Given no information, expressed how unhappy I was and was told I would be contacted by a manager. Never contacted by a manager, never given an update, and was told all orders have been delayed.

1/28 I then went on a forum to talk to a different dealer to find out what was actually happening to my car. I found out it was being shipped to Temecula and called in immediately. I was told by Kirk Preiss he would call me no later than noon. By one o'clock he still had not called and I had to call him. He then basically told me oh well the car is gone, and said at one point 'it is just a car'. Mind you I have been calm and civil at all times to your employees.

The only reason this was even brought to my attention is because I found the information from another dealer! Your salesperson was asked for information yesterday (that was clearly available!) and said nothing. He either A. knew the car was being shipped somewhere else and did not tell me...or B. Never checked! I can't say for certain which one is more absurd. I have to imagine you guys, who have the same version of the Telluride I want coming in march, would have just kept dangling me on the line until March and just switched VINs and hope I didn't notice. How unethical is this? Then I get an email from you saying basically I know you're upset here is a fleet vehicle for 3 weeks? How much time, effort, and frustration have I had to endure over your dealership's complete incompetence?? That is how you make it right?

Unfortunately I do not have a lot of power as a consumer, I will be sharing all of this information on every review site and the BBB. I will share it everywhere and anywhere to hopefully hurt your business, even if it is only slightly. You do not deserve anyone's business with practices such as the ones I have outlined in great detail. I have cancelled my order with you guys and have no interest in giving you one dollar of my money. The least you can do is cut me a check for the down payment I placed so I do not have to go through the credit card company to have them do it. I am sure you will protect your own and no one will have any consequences dulled out, I am disappointed in myself for believing that the people there were honest and cared about their customers.

Thank you,

dude go pick up your car from these guys. You are in some cases dealing with young hustlers trying to Make some money. They could care less of the customer service. Do you understand how difficult these GM of these dealers have to find quality employees. You are buying a nice Kia from a Kia dealership you aren’t buying a Mercedes where they hire seasoned top Sales teams.
 
In the email you mention getting down payment back. Was the down payment just to hold it or did you actually sign all the paperwork associated with buying a new car? Im not following and sorry for asking but man.... This is just terrible. A new learning experience for those new to the forum.

the most confusing email and issue ever. It states down payment but a loan exists!! Bamboozled
 
the most confusing email and issue ever. It states down payment but a loan exists!! Bamboozled
Steve Miller Band comes to mind... Go on take the money and run!
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In the email you mention getting down payment back. Was the down payment just to hold it or did you actually sign all the paperwork associated with buying a new car? Im not following and sorry for asking but man.... This is just terrible. A new learning experience for those new to the forum.
I signed all the paperwork for the vehicle. I was told my loan date started that day, so I don't see how that is only putting a down payment? I put money down on top of my trade in. I was told it was a done deal. I am going to get my money back and just chill on it for a while. I'm so turned off by this entire scenario. I just can't stomach continuing to deal with Kia Irvine at the moment. I don't want them to get my business.

I really wish I could buy from you @StephenCantrelle , you've been absolutely phenomenal. I don't know what the logistics are of shipping out here but once I'm ready to go I may see if it is feasible. You've done more legwork than any of the people actually working at the dealership I purchased the vehicle from. Can't express enough gratitude to you.

To everyone else thanks for your interest and support. At least I can take all of your pieces of advice and use it the second time around 😂😂 @Jason Fox .I'll let you know if anything is sent to me. To Jason and Stephen should I call Kia corporate number? There are quite a few variations of numbers 🤷‍♂️.
 
the most confusing email and issue ever. It states down payment but a loan exists!! Bamboozled
I put money down but not for the entirety of the cost. Therefore I still had a loan through them. They're trying to refund my CC. My CC is already paid off so I don't want a massive credit put on my CC and then have to call the CC company to cut a check. Does that make sense?
 
dude go pick up your car from these guys. You are in some cases dealing with young hustlers trying to Make some money. They could care less of the customer service. Do you understand how difficult these GM of these dealers have to find quality employees. You are buying a nice Kia from a Kia dealership you aren’t buying a Mercedes where they hire seasoned top Sales teams.
Screw kia of irvine man. I can't just go to a different dealership unrelated and say give me that. I'll call corporate, but I really really don't want to give Irvine any of my money man. I'd rather just wait, my car is fine. If I have to wait so be it.
 
I signed all the paperwork for the vehicle. I was told my loan date started that day, so I don't see how that is only putting a down payment? I put money down on top of my trade in. I was told it was a done deal. I am going to get my money back and just chill on it for a while. I'm so turned off by this entire scenario. I just can't stomach continuing to deal with Kia Irvine at the moment. I don't want them to get my business.

I really wish I could buy from you @StephenCantrelle , you've been absolutely phenomenal. I don't know what the logistics are of shipping out here but once I'm ready to go I may see if it is feasible. You've done more legwork than any of the people actually working at the dealership I purchased the vehicle from. Can't express enough gratitude to you.

To everyone else thanks for your interest and support. At least I can take all of your pieces of advice and use it the second time around 😂😂 @Jason Fox .I'll let you know if anything is sent to me. To Jason and Stephen should I call Kia corporate number? There are quite a few variations of numbers 🤷‍♂️.
I almost want you to say.... Screw all of this give me my Telluride and here is my paperwork. You Even had a trade! This has to be the wildest scenario or chain of events I've seen on this forum. They offered another vehicle. KIA won't do anything but you can always try!
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I signed all the paperwork for the vehicle. I was told my loan date started that day, so I don't see how that is only putting a down payment? I put money down on top of my trade in. I was told it was a done deal. I am going to get my money back and just chill on it for a while. I'm so turned off by this entire scenario. I just can't stomach continuing to deal with Kia Irvine at the moment. I don't want them to get my business.

I really wish I could buy from you @StephenCantrelle , you've been absolutely phenomenal. I don't know what the logistics are of shipping out here but once I'm ready to go I may see if it is feasible. You've done more legwork than any of the people actually working at the dealership I purchased the vehicle from. Can't express enough gratitude to you.

To everyone else thanks for your interest and support. At least I can take all of your pieces of advice and use it the second time around 😂😂 @Jason Fox .I'll let you know if anything is sent to me. To Jason and Stephen should I call Kia corporate number? There are quite a few variations of numbers 🤷‍♂️.
I would call corporate and say look I have a signed contract on this vin. I need to pick it up from the other location. And see what they say.. if all else fails I can indeed sell you one but I don’t know if you have the time to wait on it.
 
This takes the cake on the bad experience thread.. man this is nuts
 
I have only been in the business 5 years and this story is absolutely crazy. I hope that every works out for you and you get your money back. Let me know if you need help with anything.
 
Why does the dealer not call the other dealer for you?
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Why does the dealer not call the other dealer for you?
The other dealer probably sold it for much more would be my guess.
 
Screw kia of irvine man. I can't just go to a different dealership unrelated and say give me that. I'll call corporate, but I really really don't want to give Irvine any of my money man. I'd rather just wait, my car is fine. If I have to wait so be it.
We have a FWD S grey grey coming in around February 20th that is unsold.
 
Chicagoland - Napleton Elgin Kia

Ordered an EX in August, was told 4-6 weeks. That time comes and goes, checked in with the salesman and he backpedals and says he said 4-6 months, even though I have an email thread that says weeks. Another month goes by, nothing. I decide to hit up a friend out of state who sells Kias and explained my situation. Was basically told they probably got my car and decided to sell it. Forgot to mention they have been selling regular stock Tellurides for $4k over. So I decide to place an order with my friend and see which comes first. I also told original dealer I was doing this. Original dealer finally gets the hint and magically my Telluride is going to be ready “soon”. I received a build notice from my friend’s dealership 4 weeks after ordered. Original dealer tells me the car is coming in 2 weeks before the second one I ordered...3 months later! Told Napleton Kia I wouldn’t be giving them my business. Just took delivery from my friend this past weekend. F Napleton Kia
 
I just double checked and I do have all of the paperwork with the vin. I literally have everything as if I bought the car. I suppose I could have talked to corporate, but again then I'm doing legwork to get Irvine paid. That seems so effed up. Why should I have to fight, I should be taken care of at least at this point. I would rather order one from Texas from @StephenCantrelle then continue with this.
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I just double checked and I do have all of the paperwork with the vin. I literally have everything as if I bought the car. I suppose I could have talked to corporate, but again then I'm doing legwork to get Irvine paid. That seems so effed up. Why should I have to fight, I should be taken care of at least at this point. I would rather order one from Texas from @StephenCantrelle then continue with this.
Well feel free to text me or call me 214-205-6490.. I can put in your order in the morning..
 
I just double checked and I do have all of the paperwork with the vin. I literally have everything as if I bought the car. I suppose I could have talked to corporate, but again then I'm doing legwork to get Irvine paid. That seems so effed up. Why should I have to fight, I should be taken care of at least at this point. I would rather order one from Texas from @StephenCantrelle then continue with this.
What are they/you going to do about the trade in?
 
So wait, I took the wife past a local dealership (Burlington Kia) so she could finally see the car in person. This dealership has the exact car I have on order (white/dune/tow). We didn't bother the salespeople or waste their time, I just wanted her to see it in person.

It was marked up almost SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! So naturally the staff came and chatted me up and told me NO dealerships are selling SX-Ps anywhere near MSRP. He also said that they can't be ordered. I just played dumb and said okay.
Yup they have been my dealer for 7 years. Their markup was not that bad back in June but still a markup totally pissed me off won’t even go there for any service at this point. I am sure they are losing loyal clients. Definitely should be on bad dealer list!
 




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