Trailer Hitch

Wap52 · Jul 17, 2019

CAsuKiHy said:
So Palisade has tow package included in top trim, cooling transmission(something that telluride doesn’t have?) and sway control(is that just different wording for auto level suspension), they pore lack proper wiring and claim that can tow 5000lbs which is false and misleading, because you can’t tow 4000+lbs trailer SAFELY!

look at towing on the Palisade. I think it says 1950 towing if i remember what i read

Chchoe78 · Jul 18, 2019

I got the tow hitch installed from the dealership and noticed that the ball was not provided. I have the extension that connects, but not the ball. Again, I have very little experience with towing. Was this the same for anyone else?

If we are all thinking the same, then nobody is thinking.

Dandy · Jul 18, 2019

Chchoe78 said:
I got the tow hitch installed from the dealership and noticed that the ball was not provided. I have the extension that connects, but not the ball. Again, I have very little experience with towing. Was this the same for anyone else?

If we are all thinking the same, then nobody is thinking.

I am not aware of any dealership/factory option that would include the ball. There are 3 common size hitch balls - 1-7/8", 2" and 2-5/16". Doubtful you would be pulling a trailer with a 2-5/16" ball that is under 5000 lbs. Most hitches under 5000 lbs are now 2", 1-7/8" is becoming less common. It is because of this that the ball is not included, because not all trailers are the same. I have 2 different hitches, that have dual adjustable height balls. Once has a 1-7/8" ball (my Dad still has a couple of trailers with this) and a 2" ball. My other hitch has a 2" and 2-5/16" for my heavier trailers. I only buy Anderson Rapid Hitches now. They are aluminum so they don't rust, can tow up to 10,000 lbs with 1500 lb tongue weight and they can be be used as a drop or raise hitch to accommodate different vehicles and trailer combinations. Link below

Rapid Hitch - Andersen Hitches

View the best Rapid Hitch here. Shop with us today for high quality trailer hitches and gear that is strong and versatile.

andersenhitches.com

You can source just a ball for the hitch that was included. Measure the opening diameter, most hitches balls have a 3/4" or 1" threaded shaft. Purchase the ball size that fits your trailer and the threaded shaft that fits the opening of the hitch. Also keep in mind that your trailer should ideally be level when towed. The hitch you received with your tow package may not level your trailer correctly.

Side Note: It is really tough to type all of this stuff about balls and shafts and not giggle inside a little.

Chchoe78 · Jul 18, 2019

Dandy said:
I am not aware of any dealership/factory option that would include the ball. There are 3 common size hitch balls - 1-7/8", 2" and 2-5/16". Doubtful you would be pulling a trailer with a 2-5/16" ball that is under 5000 lbs. Most hitches under 5000 lbs are now 2", 1-7/8" is becoming less common. It is because of this that the ball is not included, because not all trailers are the same. I have 2 different hitches, that have dual adjustable height balls. Once has a 1-7/8" ball (my Dad still has a couple of trailers with this) and a 2" ball. My other hitch has a 2" and 2-5/16" for my heavier trailers. I only buy Anderson Rapid Hitches now. They are aluminum so they don't rust, can tow up to 10,000 lbs with 1500 lb tongue weight and they can be be used as a drop or raise hitch to accommodate different vehicles and trailer combinations. Link below

Rapid Hitch - Andersen Hitches

View the best Rapid Hitch here. Shop with us today for high quality trailer hitches and gear that is strong and versatile.

andersenhitches.com

You can source just a ball for the hitch that was included. Measure the opening diameter, most hitches balls have a 3/4" or 1" threaded shaft. Purchase the ball size that fits your trailer and the threaded shaft that fits the opening of the hitch. Also keep in mind that your trailer should ideally be level when towed. The hitch you received with your tow package may not level your trailer correctly.

Side Note: It is really tough to type all of this stuff about balls and shafts and not giggle inside a little.

Thanks for sharing. Can't help but to laugh.

Gwyn · Jul 18, 2019

Dandy said:
I am not aware of any dealership/factory option that would include the ball. There are 3 common size hitch balls - 1-7/8", 2" and 2-5/16". Doubtful you would be pulling a trailer with a 2-5/16" ball that is under 5000 lbs.

Oh quit lying you know the three sizes of balls are too big, too small, and just big enough to catch your fingers between them and the hitch.

Chchoe78 · Jul 22, 2019

I found this on another forum. Don't have time to look at it due to travel plans. But please take a look for those that needed the 7 pin tow adapter.

NCTelly said:
My S did not come with the tow package, but I did pull off the black cover in the driver side behind the bumper and that 12 pin connector is sitting there. So the good news is that it should be a simple DIY. The frustrating part is when I looked closer there were only 6 wires. So my guess is that pins 1-6 are what goes to the harness and the 7 connects to 1, 8 to 2, 9 to 3, 10 to 4, 11 to 5, and 12 to 6. The 12 pin does not appear to have the reverse lights nor the output for a brake controller to head back to the front of the car.

So wiring the Echo wireless brake controller module still would be just use the 4 pin and run a wire with fuse to the battery or tap another 12v source and a ground. (Leave two disconnected.

To get the full 7 pins for a typical brake controller you would need to run a second wire along with the one to the battery as output to the brake controller and then also find a place to tap into the reverse lights which in the Telluride are in the hatch.

I found this on another forum looking for something else. I was not sure how the owner of the forum felt about me linking another Tully forum. So here is a copy of what I found. I have not had to chance to look at this. But if the wires for the 7 pin that are missing could be tapped from here and run to the rear of the car. Calling out all the DIYers and Tinkerers.

Interior Driver Side Fuse Box

MODULE 4 7.5 A ATM (Auto Transmission) Shift Lever Switch, Stop LampSwitch, Driver Door Module
AIR BAG 1 15 A SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) Control Module, Passenger Occupant Detection Sensor
BRAKE SWITCH 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit), Stop Lamp Switch
MODULE 9 15 A Front A/C Control Module, Low DC-DC Converter (Audio), Power Tail Gate Module, Driver IMS Control Module, Driver Door Module, Driver/Passenger Power Outside Mirror,
MODULE 12 7.5 A Head-Up Display
MODULE 10 10 A Blind-Spot Collision Warning Unit LH/RH, Front A/C Control Module, Rear A/C Control Module, Electro Chromic Mirror, Data Link Connector
AIR BAG IND 10 A Front A/C Control Module, Instrument Cluster
IBU 1 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)
MODULE 2 7.5 A Surround View Monitor Unit, AC Inverter Outlet, AC Inverter Unit, Front Air Ventilation Seat Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module,2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module LH/RH,2ND Seat Warmer Control Module LH/RH
MODULE 8 7.5 A Hazard Switch, Rain Sensor, Driver/Passenger Smart Key Outside Handle, Mood Lamp Control Unit, Driver/Passenger Mood Lamp, Driver/Passenger Door Mood Lamp, Rear Dooe Mood Lamp LH/RH
S/HEATER (FRT) 20 A Front Air Ventilation Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module
AIR BAG 2 15 A SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) Control Module
MODULE 5 7.5 A Multifunction Camera Unit, Crash Pad Switch, IBU (Inte- grated Body Control Unit), Smart Cruise Control Radar, ATM (Auto Transmission) Shift Lever Indicator, 4WD ECM (Engine Control Module), Console Switch, Electric Parking Brake Switch
IBU 2 15 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)
SUNROOF 2 20 A Rear Sunroof Controller
MODULE 1 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)
P/WINDOW RH 25 A Passenger Safety Power Window Module, Rear Safety
Power Window Module RH
RR SEAT (LH) 25 A 2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module LH, 2ND Seat Warmer Control, Module LH, 2ND Seat LH Reclining Folding Actuator
CLUSTER 7.5 A Instrument Cluster, Head-Up Display
MDPS 10 A MDPS (Motor Driven Power Steering) Unit
A/C 7.5 A E/R Junction Block (Blower FRT Relay, Blower RR Relay, PTC Heater 1/2 Relay), Front A/C Control Module, Rear A/C Control Module
CHILD LOCK 15 A ICM (Integrated Circuit Module) Relay Box (Child Lock/UnlockRelay)
DOOR LOCK 20 A Door Lock Relay, Door Unlock Relay, Tail Gate Relay, T/Turn Unlock Relay
SUNROOF 1 20 A Front Sunroof Controller
MODULE 11 10 A Rear Occupant Detection Sensor
P/WINDOW LH 25 A Driver Safety Power Window Module, Rear Safety Power Window Module LH
MODULE 3 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)
MODULE 6 7.5 A Audio, A/V & Navigation Head Unit, Low DC-DC Converter (Audio/AMP), Front A/C Control Module, Electro Chromic Mirror, Center fascia Keyboard, Driver/Passenger Seat Warmer Switch, Driver/Passenger Seat Warmer LIN Switch, Driver IMS Control Module, Rear Power Window Switch LH/ RH, Front Air Ventilation Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module,2ND Air Ventilation Seat ControlModule LH/RH,2ND Seat Warmer Control Module LH/RH
WASHER 15 A Multifunction Switch
RR SEAT (RH) 25 A 2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module RH, 2ND Seat Warmer Control, Module RH, 2ND Seat RH Reclining Folding Actuator
WIPER RR 15 A Rear Wiper Relay, Rear Wiper Motor
AMP 25 A Low DC-DC Converter (AMP) A
CC 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit), Low DC-DC Converter (Audio/AMP)
P/SEAT (PASS) 30 A Passenger Seat Manual Switch
P/SEAT (DRV) 30 A Driver IMS Control Module, Driver Seat Manual Switch

Engine Compartment Fuse Box

MDPS 80 A MDPS (Motor Driven Power Steering) Unit
COOLING FAN 80 A Cooling Fan Controller
EPB 60 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module
B+2 50 A ICU Junction Block (IPS 8/IPS 10/IPS 11/IPS 12/IPS 13/IPS 14/IPS 15)
B+3 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - P/WINDOW LH, RR SEAT (LH), P/SEAT (DRV), P/SEAT (PASS), MODULE 11)
B+4 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - MODULE 8, S/HEATER (FRT), P/WINDOW RH, AMP, SUNROOF 1)
ESC 1 40 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module
ESC 2 40 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module PTC HEATER 1 50 A PTC Heater 1 Relay PTC HEATER 2 50 A PTC Heater 2 Relay
ECU 6 15 A ECM (Engine Control Module)
TCU 1 15 A TCM (Transmission Control Module)
TCU 3 15 A TCM (Transmission Control Module)
B+5 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - DOOR LOCK, IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit) 1, IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit) 2, BRAKE SWITCH, CHILD LOCK, RR SEAT (RH), SUNROOF 2)
BLOWER FRT 1 40 A Blower FRT Relay
OIL PUMP 40 A Electric Oil Pump Inverter
REAR HEATED 40 A Rear Heated Relay
B+1 50 A ICU Junction Block (IPS 1/IPS 2/IPS 3/IPS 5/IPS 6/IPS 7, Long/Short Term Load Latch Relay)
BLOWER RR 1 40 A Blower RR Relay
4WD 20 A 4WD ECM (Engine Control Module)
AMS 10 A Battery Sensor
H/LAMP HI 15 A H/Lamp HI Relay
IG2 40 A Start Relay, PCB Block (IG2 Relay)
INVERTER 30 A AC Inverter Unit
POWER TAIL GATE 30 A Power Tail Gate Module
TRAILER 30 A Trailer Connector
HEATED MIRROR 10 A Driver/Passenger Power Outside Mirror, Front A/C Control Module
BLOWER RR 2 10 A Rear A/C Control Module
WIPER FRT 2 10 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)
BLOWER FRT 2 10 A Front A/C Control Module
WIPER FRT 1 30 A Wiper FRT Relay
B/ALARM HORN 15 A B/Alarm Horn Relay
FUEL PUMP 20 A Fuel Pump Relay
ACC 1 40 A ACC 1 Relay
ACC 2 40 A ACC 2 Relay
ECU 5 30 A Engine Control Relay
IG1 40 A IG1 Relay
A/C 10 A A/C Relay
HORN 15 A Horn Relay
POWER OUTLET 2 20 A Front Power Outlet
ACC 3 15 A Rear USB Charger, Luggage USB Charger, Driver/Passenger Seat Cushion USB Charger
ACC 4 10 A Front USB Charger, Rear USB Charger RH
ICU 10 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - ACC)
SENSOR 1 10 A Fuel Pump Relay
SENSOR 4 15 A Canister Close Valve, Oxygen Sensor #1/#2/#3/#4
ESC 3 10 A Data Link Connector, ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module
TCU 2 10 A TCM (Transmission Control Module), Transaxle Range Switch
SENSOR 6 10 A Electric Oil Pump Inverter
ECU 4 10 A ECM (Engine Control Module)
POWER OUTLET 1 20 A Luggage Power Outlet
POWER OUTLET 3 20 A Rear Power Outlet
SENSOR 5 10 A Oil Pump Solenoid
SENSOR 2 10 A A/C Relay, Purge Control Solenoid Valve, Oil Control Valve #1/#2/#3/#4 (Intake/Exhaust), Variable Intake Solenoid Valve #1/#2, Electronic Thermostat
SENSOR 3 20 A Cooling Fan Controller
ECU 1 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)
ECU 2 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)
ECU 3 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)
IGN COIL 20 A Ignition Coil #1/#2/#3/#4/#5/#6

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2020Telly · Jul 22, 2019

Chchoe78 said:
I found this on another forum. Don't have time to look at it due to travel plans. But please take a look for those that needed the 7 pin tow adapter.

I found this on another forum looking for something else. I was not sure how the owner of the forum felt about me linking another Tully forum. So here is a copy of what I found. I have not had to chance to look at this. But if the wires for the 7 pin that are missing could be tapped from here and run to the rear of the car. Calling out all the DIYers and Tinkerers.

Interior Driver Side Fuse Box
View attachment 2641

MODULE 4 7.5 A ATM (Auto Transmission) Shift Lever Switch, Stop LampSwitch, Driver Door Module

AIR BAG 1 15 A SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) Control Module, Passenger Occupant Detection Sensor

BRAKE SWITCH 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit), Stop Lamp Switch

MODULE 9 15 A Front A/C Control Module, Low DC-DC Converter (Audio), Power Tail Gate Module, Driver IMS Control Module, Driver Door Module, Driver/Passenger Power Outside Mirror,

MODULE 12 7.5 A Head-Up Display

MODULE 10 10 A Blind-Spot Collision Warning Unit LH/RH, Front A/C Control Module, Rear A/C Control Module, Electro Chromic Mirror, Data Link Connector

AIR BAG IND 10 A Front A/C Control Module, Instrument Cluster

IBU 1 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)

MODULE 2 7.5 A Surround View Monitor Unit, AC Inverter Outlet, AC Inverter Unit, Front Air Ventilation Seat Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module,2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module LH/RH,2ND Seat Warmer Control Module LH/RH

MODULE 8 7.5 A Hazard Switch, Rain Sensor, Driver/Passenger Smart Key Outside Handle, Mood Lamp Control Unit, Driver/Passenger Mood Lamp, Driver/Passenger Door Mood Lamp, Rear Dooe Mood Lamp LH/RH

S/HEATER (FRT) 20 A Front Air Ventilation Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module

AIR BAG 2 15 A SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) Control Module

MODULE 5 7.5 A Multifunction Camera Unit, Crash Pad Switch, IBU (Inte- grated Body Control Unit), Smart Cruise Control Radar, ATM (Auto Transmission) Shift Lever Indicator, 4WD ECM (Engine Control Module), Console Switch, Electric Parking Brake Switch

IBU 2 15 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)

SUNROOF 2 20 A Rear Sunroof Controller

MODULE 1 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)

P/WINDOW RH 25 A Passenger Safety Power Window Module, Rear Safety

Power Window Module RH

RR SEAT (LH) 25 A 2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module LH, 2ND Seat Warmer Control, Module LH, 2ND Seat LH Reclining Folding Actuator

CLUSTER 7.5 A Instrument Cluster, Head-Up Display

MDPS 10 A MDPS (Motor Driven Power Steering) Unit

A/C 7.5 A E/R Junction Block (Blower FRT Relay, Blower RR Relay, PTC Heater 1/2 Relay), Front A/C Control Module, Rear A/C Control Module

CHILD LOCK 15 A ICM (Integrated Circuit Module) Relay Box (Child Lock/UnlockRelay)

DOOR LOCK 20 A Door Lock Relay, Door Unlock Relay, Tail Gate Relay, T/Turn Unlock Relay

SUNROOF 1 20 A Front Sunroof Controller

MODULE 11 10 A Rear Occupant Detection Sensor

P/WINDOW LH 25 A Driver Safety Power Window Module, Rear Safety Power Window Module LH

MODULE 3 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)

MODULE 6 7.5 A Audio, A/V & Navigation Head Unit, Low DC-DC Converter (Audio/AMP), Front A/C Control Module, Electro Chromic Mirror, Center fascia Keyboard, Driver/Passenger Seat Warmer Switch, Driver/Passenger Seat Warmer LIN Switch, Driver IMS Control Module, Rear Power Window Switch LH/ RH, Front Air Ventilation Control Module, Front Seat Warmer Control Module,2ND Air Ventilation Seat ControlModule LH/RH,2ND Seat Warmer Control Module LH/RH

WASHER 15 A Multifunction Switch

RR SEAT (RH) 25 A 2ND Air Ventilation Seat Control Module RH, 2ND Seat Warmer Control, Module RH, 2ND Seat RH Reclining Folding Actuator

WIPER RR 15 A Rear Wiper Relay, Rear Wiper Motor

AMP 25 A Low DC-DC Converter (AMP) A

CC 7.5 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit), Low DC-DC Converter (Audio/AMP)

P/SEAT (PASS) 30 A Passenger Seat Manual Switch

P/SEAT (DRV) 30 A Driver IMS Control Module, Driver Seat Manual Switch

Engine Compartment Fuse Box
View attachment 2640

MDPS 80 A MDPS (Motor Driven Power Steering) Unit

COOLING FAN 80 A Cooling Fan Controller

EPB 60 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module

B+2 50 A ICU Junction Block (IPS 8/IPS 10/IPS 11/IPS 12/IPS 13/IPS 14/IPS 15)

B+3 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - P/WINDOW LH, RR SEAT (LH), P/SEAT (DRV), P/SEAT (PASS), MODULE 11)

B+4 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - MODULE 8, S/HEATER (FRT), P/WINDOW RH, AMP, SUNROOF 1)

ESC 1 40 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module

ESC 2 40 A ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module PTC HEATER 1 50 A PTC Heater 1 Relay PTC HEATER 2 50 A PTC Heater 2 Relay

ECU 6 15 A ECM (Engine Control Module)

TCU 1 15 A TCM (Transmission Control Module)

TCU 3 15 A TCM (Transmission Control Module)

B+5 50 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - DOOR LOCK, IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit) 1, IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit) 2, BRAKE SWITCH, CHILD LOCK, RR SEAT (RH), SUNROOF 2)

BLOWER FRT 1 40 A Blower FRT Relay

OIL PUMP 40 A Electric Oil Pump Inverter

REAR HEATED 40 A Rear Heated Relay

B+1 50 A ICU Junction Block (IPS 1/IPS 2/IPS 3/IPS 5/IPS 6/IPS 7, Long/Short Term Load Latch Relay)

BLOWER RR 1 40 A Blower RR Relay

4WD 20 A 4WD ECM (Engine Control Module)

AMS 10 A Battery Sensor

H/LAMP HI 15 A H/Lamp HI Relay

IG2 40 A Start Relay, PCB Block (IG2 Relay)

INVERTER 30 A AC Inverter Unit

POWER TAIL GATE 30 A Power Tail Gate Module

TRAILER 30 A Trailer Connector

HEATED MIRROR 10 A Driver/Passenger Power Outside Mirror, Front A/C Control Module

BLOWER RR 2 10 A Rear A/C Control Module

WIPER FRT 2 10 A IBU (Integrated Body Control Unit)

BLOWER FRT 2 10 A Front A/C Control Module

WIPER FRT 1 30 A Wiper FRT Relay

B/ALARM HORN 15 A B/Alarm Horn Relay

FUEL PUMP 20 A Fuel Pump Relay

ACC 1 40 A ACC 1 Relay

ACC 2 40 A ACC 2 Relay

ECU 5 30 A Engine Control Relay

IG1 40 A IG1 Relay

A/C 10 A A/C Relay

HORN 15 A Horn Relay

POWER OUTLET 2 20 A Front Power Outlet

ACC 3 15 A Rear USB Charger, Luggage USB Charger, Driver/Passenger Seat Cushion USB Charger

ACC 4 10 A Front USB Charger, Rear USB Charger RH

ICU 10 A ICU Junction Block (Fuse - ACC)

SENSOR 1 10 A Fuel Pump Relay

SENSOR 4 15 A Canister Close Valve, Oxygen Sensor #1/#2/#3/#4

ESC 3 10 A Data Link Connector, ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Module

TCU 2 10 A TCM (Transmission Control Module), Transaxle Range Switch

SENSOR 6 10 A Electric Oil Pump Inverter

ECU 4 10 A ECM (Engine Control Module)

POWER OUTLET 1 20 A Luggage Power Outlet

POWER OUTLET 3 20 A Rear Power Outlet

SENSOR 5 10 A Oil Pump Solenoid

SENSOR 2 10 A A/C Relay, Purge Control Solenoid Valve, Oil Control Valve #1/#2/#3/#4 (Intake/Exhaust), Variable Intake Solenoid Valve #1/#2, Electronic Thermostat

SENSOR 3 20 A Cooling Fan Controller

ECU 1 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)

ECU 2 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)

ECU 3 20 A ECM (Engine Control Module)

IGN COIL 20 A Ignition Coil #1/#2/#3/#4/#5/#6

If everyone is thinking the same, then nobody is thinking.

I see the trailer connector 30A fuse. And I see where I might be able to tap into something that might have power for the AWD version on my 2WD Telluride to power a brake controller. The mystery to me is how the light wiring harness feeds the reverse lights on the hatch. I’ll try to keep digging.

Chchoe78 · Jul 22, 2019

I thought I deleted the portion of my post but auto save must have added it back. As I could not provide the pics from my phone and changed to laptop.

Hope I shed some light to a topic I just learned about. If I get a chance to look into the 7 pin. I'll keep you posted

If everyone is thinking the same, them nobody is thinking.

Bjakub82 · Jul 31, 2019

I have been reading many threads and multiple forums trying to find an answer to the lack of a 7 pin wire harness. I just spoke to my Kia dealer which installed my hitch after delivery on my S with the standard 4 pin harness. He contacted Kia for me and told me that Kia IS working on a 7 pin harness which will be available next year. He did also confirm it will be available for the 2020 so it must use the same harness that the 4 pin plugs into currently. Still not sure how that will work with a trailer brake controller, might still need to be wired into the cab or use the Curt wireless/Bluetooth set up. It would be great if someone else confirm this with their Kia dealer, would feel little better coming from multiple sources.

Penetronn · Jul 31, 2019

Bjakub82 said:
I have been reading many threads and multiple forums trying to find an answer to the lack of a 7 pin wire harness. I just spoke to my Kia dealer which installed my hitch after delivery on my S with the standard 4 pin harness. He contacted Kia for me and told me that Kia IS working on a 7 pin harness which will be available next year. He did also confirm it will be available for the 2020 so it must use the same harness that the 4 pin plugs into currently. Still not sure how that will work with a trailer brake controller, might still need to be wired into the cab or use the Curt wireless/Bluetooth set up. It would be great if someone else confirm this with their Kia dealer, would feel little better coming from multiple sources.

Interesting info. They need to increase that tongue weight rating to at least 500 lbs to make this a viable towing vehicle. If they do that, I'll take another look.

jw_tx21 · Jul 31, 2019

Penetronn said:
Interesting info. They need to increase that tongue weight rating to at least 500 lbs to make this a viable towing vehicle. If they do that, I'll take another look.

Check this out - just don't go with the OEM option and problem solved.

Curt Trailer Hitch

Curt finally has their hitch available. Ive had a few of their hitches, they are always well done at decent price. Not sure about the way the receiver sits though. The picture shows it below the stock factory cover, but the installation instruction says a cut is required. That (cut) might...

tellurideforum.org

Bjakub82 · Jul 31, 2019

jw_tx21 said:
Check this out - just don't go with the OEM option and problem solved.

Curt Trailer Hitch

Curt finally has their hitch available. Ive had a few of their hitches, they are always well done at decent price. Not sure about the way the receiver sits though. The picture shows it below the stock factory cover, but the installation instruction says a cut is required. That (cut) might...

tellurideforum.org

Looks like I might be replacing my OEM hitch with the Curt. And if Kia can get the 7 pin wire harness out to us, then I'm good to go.

Penetronn · Jul 31, 2019

jw_tx21 said:
Check this out - just don't go with the OEM option and problem solved.

Curt Trailer Hitch

Curt finally has their hitch available. Ive had a few of their hitches, they are always well done at decent price. Not sure about the way the receiver sits though. The picture shows it below the stock factory cover, but the installation instruction says a cut is required. That (cut) might...

tellurideforum.org

Curt install sheet still says not to exceed the manufacturer's towing guidelines. Owner's manual says 351 lbs tongue weight. Exceeding that even with an aftermarket hitch may still void your warranty.

jw_tx21 · Jul 31, 2019

Penetronn said:
Curt install sheet still says not to exceed the manufacturer's towing guidelines. Owner's manual says 351 lbs tongue weight. Exceeding that even with an aftermarket hitch may still void your warranty.

Thanks, yes, I saw your other post. This is something that needs to be resolved by Kia corporate - their owner's manual seems wrong or misleading at best - or they just don't understand it correctly. Even the owner's manual says that max trailer weight shouldn't be more than 10% of tongue weight - and the two numbers in the manual don't make sense. Wish we had more clarity on this topic - so we wouldn't have to speculate what they meant by those numbers in the manual... frame vs. oem hitch (tow package) etc.

Penetronn · Jul 31, 2019

jw_tx21 said:
Thanks, yes, I saw your other post. This is something that needs to be resolved by Kia corporate - their owner's manual seems wrong or misleading at best - or they just don't understand it correctly. Even the owner's manual says that max trailer weight shouldn't be more than 10% of tongue weight - and the two numbers in the manual don't make sense. Wish we had more clarity on this topic - so we wouldn't have to speculate what they meant by those numbers in the manual... frame vs. oem hitch (tow package) etc.

This is nothing new, unfortunately. They have pulled the same bait and switch with the Sorento towing capacity over the years.

lugz · Aug 4, 2019

Our local dealer wants $500 and $291 for the hitch and 4-pin harness, respectively. I can do the Curt 13420 hitch for $275ish, which still seems pricey. I have used Curt hitches in the past on several vehicles - they are very nice units. I'd still have to get a harness. Does anyone have a dealer or online source to get the factory parts cheaper than what our local dealer is quoting?

2020Telly · Aug 4, 2019

lugz said:
Our local dealer wants $500 and $291 for the hitch and 4-pin harness, respectively. I can do the Curt 13420 hitch for $275ish, which still seems pricey. I have used Curt hitches in the past on several vehicles - they are very nice units. I'd still have to get a harness. Does anyone have a dealer or online source to get the factory parts cheaper than what our local dealer is quoting?

Wholesalekiaparts.com had decent prices on OEM but you have to search by part #. There is an aftermarket harness now on etrailer.com.

lugz · Aug 4, 2019

NCTelly said:
Wholesalekiaparts.com had decent prices on OEM but you have to search by part #. There is an aftermarket harness now on etrailer.com.

Thanks! Their prices for the OEM parts are pretty good:
Hitch: S9F61-AU000 $288
Hitch cover: S9F61-AU060 $40.25
4-pin Wire harness: S9F67-AC000 $138.75
Almost $80 shipping to NC from GA though. Woof.

This is the way I'll be going instead to save some $:
Ebay Curt 13420 hitch for $279 (free ship and no tax)
Ebay Tekonsha 118784 harness for $41 (free ship and no tax) [this is the harness etrailer is selling for the Telluride]
Note the curt hitch requires a small cutout of the stock lower bumper cover rather than replacing it.

CoraB · Aug 25, 2019

Simple but important question for you all: Anyone know which way the ball should be mounted on the Ball Mount? The diagram from the part is as shown below, which would imply mounting on the top with arch concaved downward, and this looks similar to the white Telluride Brochure in dealerships, but I saw a video from a Kia dealer showing the exact opposite, see below and thanks in advance.

BrianF · Aug 25, 2019

It can go either way — what you want to do is put it so that your trailer sits level. On my Telluride, I put it the way shown in the photo with the boat, on my Sorento with the same trailer it goes the other way like in the diagram. The trailer sits level behind either car that way.

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