What did you pay for your KIA Telluride?

[Nas4atu10]

That's kinda the point, right? If the Telluride were produced in similar numbers and everyone that wanted one got one would it be considered a hot seller? We'll never know. It certainly wouldn't have the buzz around it that it has now. We'll eventually get to that point where they are readily available though. But like I said, not long after they get to that point something just as good will come out and people will flock to that.

I've looked at everything, I like Telluride the best but it doesn't compare price wise to much. Most everything can be had cheaper.

That's kinda the point, right? If the Telluride were produced in similar numbers and everyone that wanted one got one would it be considered a hot seller? We'll never know. It certainly wouldn't have the buzz around it that it has now. We'll eventually get to that point where they are readily available though. But like I said, not long after they get to that point something just as good will come out and people will flock to that.

I've looked at everything, I like Telluride the best but it doesn't compare price wise to much. Most everything can be had cheaper.

I believe the Telluride is as popular as it is due to the numerous awards this car keeps winning plus the build quality of it. The demand is way outpacing production, and I feel even if they caught up on production, they’d still have a hard time keeping these on lots. As stated above, Explorers are pumped out like hot cakes, and dealerships are flooded with these. Hell, in my rink dink hometown in NC, my local dealer has 54 Explorers sitting on their lot.

 

[Idicula Samuel]

All I can say there are a lot non Telluride owners on a Telluride forum. This is not the first time this phenomenon has occurred guys. I know no one wants to accept it is happening to Kia of all car company.

For those of who understand demand vs price equation they will know why the Telluride is selling over MSRP.

I myself tried for multiple months to buy a SXP trim and could not find one even 100 plus radius as there was none in inventory and any coming in was already sold as it was presold.

You tell me if you have this issue with Pilot. Even in the Covid era still no Telluride SXP to be had.

So you have 2 choice accept it and pay the price or go buy your Pilot or any other car for that matter.

What I don’t understand is why non Telluride owners or not even trying to buy one is trying to criticize people who are buying it. If you think they are paying more, that is for each individual to decide.

I myself test drove the car and found it leaps and bound than anything in the regular Honda Toyota or Mazda category.

What you cannot accept is that they created a game changer SUV and when that happens people will pay more. Years later it may get to normal but that does not mean I buy a Pilot now and sell it three years later to buy Telluride at lower cost.

I myself did not want to pay over MSRP and found that you can order it and get it for lower price. I am paying less than MSRP however it is not below invoice, I can live with that.

I keep my cars for a long time 96 maxima for 12 years for over 200k miles - sold it to buy 08 Lexus. I still have 04 Infiniti with 220k miles and 08 Lexus with close to 240k miles. I plan to keep both cars till 300k miles. When I keep the cars that long I am not worried about resale value.

In short I am defending those who made their choice to buy one and those who can’t go buy a Pilot, plenty to be had there. Not the same for a SXP, a full year later still same story more demand than production.

I will end with stating the same thing is happening for the 2020 Corvette. Too much value people will pay over MsRP for a long time. You want one pay the price.

 

[mrmac]

Wouldn’t the ready availability of the Explorer skew the results rather heavily in the sales number department? Not sure I’m buying that argument. I know you mention the availability of the Explorer, but I still believe that point is worthless, and may actually go against what you’re trying to say.

Interesting facts of questionable value: This validates the market perception of both vehicles.

A 2019 Explorer XLT sells at 72% of it original MSRP: losing 28% in year one.

The three year residual value for a 2020 Explorer XLT is 58%. By the time it reaches 3 years old a 2020 Explorer XLT (MSRP $37,870) has lost 42% of its MSRP with a 58% residual value ($21,964). Lost value equation is $15,906.

A Kia Telluride LX (MSRP at $32,785) 3 year residual value is 62% to $20,327. Lost value equation is $12,458.

As of this moment, there only 2 Kia Tellurides available through manheim auctions. An LX with 3,721 miles with a buy it now price of $33,300 (a little higher than MSRP). An Ex with 17,174 miles and a buy it now price of $48,687.

 

[NDBlackEX]

The buzz the Telluride has is based primarily on the vast number of awards and comparison tests it has won over the past year. The awards and recognition have driven the demand. If KIA had the ability to manufacture 300K/year - they would have been able to sell them.

If they had 300k units to sell a year and they sold them, I would guarantee that almost none would be sold at sticker price which is my whole point. There's not that long of a line...

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[NDBlackEX]

I believe the Telluride is as popular as it is due to the numerous awards this car keeps winning plus the build quality of it. The demand is way outpacing production, and I feel even if they caught up on production, they’d still have a hard time keeping these on lots. As stated above, Explorers are pumped out like hot cakes, and dealerships are flooded with these. Hell, in my rink dink hometown in NC, my local dealer has 54 Explorers sitting on their lot.

As far as build quality, that remains to be seen. The sample size is too small and based on what I'm seeing on this forum, I'm having less and less confidence about build quality as the weeks roll on. That's another topic though.

There is also high demand for the Traverse which is also difficult to keep on lots but the comparable higher trim models can still be bought at a discount and for less money than a comparable Telluride. I know, I ordered my telluride and drove straight to the Chevy dealer since I hadn't driven one in a while. My dealer still sells a ton of them at a discount even though they can't stock many.

 

[mrmac]

If they had 300k units to sell a year and they sold them, I would guarantee that almost none would be sold at sticker price which is my whole point. There's not that long of a line...

It is disingenuous to profuse a guarantee such as yours.

 

[MarcinTexas]

As far as build quality, that remains to be seen. The sample size is too small and based on what I'm seeing on this forum, I'm having less and less confidence about build quality as the weeks roll on. That's another topic though.

There is also high demand for the Traverse which is also difficult to keep on lots but the comparable higher trim models can still be bought at a discount and for less money than a comparable Telluride. I know, I ordered my telluride and drove straight to the Chevy dealer since I hadn't driven one in a while. My dealer still sells a ton of them at a discount even though they can't stock many.

Traverses are heavily subsidized through incentives. Based on Q1 sales rates (pre-virus) and current inventory of all new Traverses on cars.com (11,535) Chevy has a little more than a months inventory on hand. Based on Q1 sales rates and current inventory of all new Tellurides on cars.com (602) KIA has about a four day supply of inventory on hand. So relatively speaking - Chevy can stock them a lot easier than KIA can stock the Telluride.

 

[NDBlackEX]

It is disingenuous to profuse a guarantee such as yours.

Give me a break. Who sells 300k units of a vehicle per year at sticker price? Show me all those vehicles in the past that have accomplished that. Oh yeah, I forgot... The Telluride is THE GREATEST VEHICLE EVER PRODUCED and it's gonna break the mold and boy am I gonna be sorry that I didn't overpay for the privilege of owning one! Haha. Man, there's no beating the fanboys on this forum. They outnumber the rest of us. I said my piece, gonna sit back and observe again for a while and wait for my car. Maybe I wait another year and get one for 3 grand off sticker. We'll see.
Mine is coming for a little less than sticker BTW. My order is getting canceled so hard if they offer blue for 2021 though. I'll be waiting for that one.

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[NDBlackEX]

Traverses are heavily subsidized through incentives. Based on Q1 sales rates (pre-virus) and current inventory of all new Traverses on cars.com (11,535) Chevy has a little more than a months inventory on hand. Based on Q1 sales rates and current inventory of all new Tellurides on cars.com (602) KIA has about a four day supply of inventory on hand. So relatively speaking - Chevy can stock them a lot easier than KIA can stock the Telluride.

Does that change the fact that you can purchase one comparably equipped for less money?

 

[Tellthemride]

If you try to discredit the accolades of the Telluride on the Telluride Forum.

 

[jw_tx21]

Does that change the fact that you can purchase one comparably equipped for less money?

You are right. Anyone can purchase a competitor vehicle in Telluride size class - potentially for less money if you are looking at an SXP vs top trims of other manufacturers due to their discounts. But that's not the point - the SX-P is only a fraction of total production, and there is a lot of value in LX, S and EX trims vs lower trims of competitors. Telluride is priced well for market. It's hot because people just want it.

Does anyone here care that we can get a Traverse for less? Frankly, no. We've discussed all these competitors since last year. But, I bet they'll love your comments on the Honda and Chevy forums.

You'll enjoy the EX when you do get it. May want better headlights, but that's an easy fix.

 

[mrmac]

Give me a break. Who sells 300k units of a vehicle per year at sticker price? Show me all those vehicles in the past that have accomplished that. Oh yeah, I forgot... The Telluride is THE GREATEST VEHICLE EVER PRODUCED and it's gonna break the mold and boy am I gonna be sorry that I didn't overpay for the privilege of owning one! Haha. Man, there's no beating the fanboys on this forum. They outnumber the rest of us. I said my piece, gonna sit back and observe again for a while and wait for my car. Maybe I wait another year and get one for 3 grand off sticker. We'll see.
Mine is coming for a little less than sticker BTW. My order is getting canceled so hard if they offer blue for 2021 though. I'll be waiting for that one.

I'm sorry about your order. I want everyone to get as good a deal as I did, it just isn't going to happen as long as people are going gaga over this thing. If not for getting the Telluride, I would've had to spend another $50 grand because my wife loved the BMW X7 (comparably equipped) as her first favorite. Lucky for me, she couldn't see it being worth that much more just to have twin turbos under the hood.

We also would've love blue, but the black copper looks amazing, per our taste.

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[NDBlackEX]

You are right. Anyone can purchase a competitor vehicle in Telluride size class - potentially for less money if you are looking at an SXP vs top trims of other manufacturers due to their discounts. But that's not the point - the SX-P is only a fraction of total production, and there is a lot of value in LX, S and EX trims vs lower trims of competitors. Telluride is priced well for market. It's hot because people just want it.

Does anyone here care that we can get a Traverse for less? Frankly, no. We've discussed all these competitors since last year. But, I bet they'll love your comments on the Honda and Chevy forums.

I would think a lot of people care. Not everyone is here simply to worship the Telluride. Some of us are here to educate ourselves on a $35-50k purchase. I chose the Telluride over other vehicles and I looked at everything, vans included. However, my new ride is months out so I'm continuing to look because I may find something I like equally that's a better value.

I would think it's ok to discuss competitors at anytime as there may be new members who only read current threads. The current situation is different than it may have been 1, 3 or 6 months ago as well. I'm not sitting here plugging competitors' vehicles either. We've been talking about pricing and I'm just saying that overpaying for a vehicle will come back to bite people and that they should consider the fact that there are other options.

 

[NDBlackEX]

I'm sorry about your order. I want everyone to get as good a deal as I did, it just isn't going to happen as long as people are going gaga over this thing. If not for getting the Telluride, I would've had to spend another $50 grand because my wife loved the BMW X7 (comparably equipped) as her first favorite. Lucky for me, she couldn't see it being worth that much more just to have twin turbos under the hood.

We also would've love blue, but the black copper looks amazing, per our taste.

I think I've only seen one in Black Copper. We have 3 cars and they're all blue. Not having a blue option almost took the Telly out of the running. I'm getting a black on black EX P/T. I placed my order in Feb figuring it would take a while and hoping 2021 info would be out before it came. I've also been waiting for the Bronco. I'm just looking for something different and I'm in no rush.
Nice thing about my dealer is they sell for under sticker and don't require a deposit.

 

[Cmsharp]

I’m currently waiting on my Telluride order. I’m ok with the price, but I wonder if cash for clunkers is coming this fall. I could trade my son’s p.o.s. in for 5k and give him my wifes car that would be awesome.

 

[Sparkle Girl 47]

Interesting facts of questionable value: This validates the market perception of both vehicles.

A 2019 Explorer XLT sells at 72% of it original MSRP: losing 28% in year one.

The three year residual value for a 2020 Explorer XLT is 58%. By the time it reaches 3 years old a 2020 Explorer XLT (MSRP $37,870) has lost 42% of its MSRP with a 58% residual value ($21,964). Lost value equation is $15,906.

A Kia Telluride LX (MSRP at $32,785) 3 year residual value is 62% to $20,327. Lost value equation is $12,458.

As of this moment, there only 2 Kia Tellurides available through manheim auctions. An LX with 3,721 miles with a buy it now price of $33,300 (a little higher than MSRP). An Ex with 17,174 miles and a buy it now price of $48,687.

This is why, i'm just enjoying the Forum. An EX with 17,174 miles, with a buy it now price of $48,687 is not for me. for this price I want some Bells and Whistles. Some of us just will not be able to afford a Telluride. Thats just the way it is. I'll still enjoy this forum with the rest of You!!!

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[mrmac]

I’m currently waiting on my Telluride order. I’m ok with the price, but I wonder if cash for clunkers is coming this fall. I could trade my son’s p.o.s. in for 5k and give him my wifes car that would be awesome.

Mark my words there will not be another cash for clunkers in our lifetime.

 

[mrmac]

This is why, i'm just enjoying the Forum. An EX with 17,174 miles, with a buy it now price of $48,687 is not for me. for this price I want some Bells and Whistles. Some of us just will not be able to afford a Telluride. Thats just the way it is. I'll still enjoy this forum with the rest of You!!!

@Sparkle Girl 47 what is your payment target for affordability and what state do you reside in?

 

[mrmac]

I think I've only seen one in Black Copper. We have 3 cars and they're all blue. Not having a blue option almost took the Telly out of the running. I'm getting a black on black EX P/T. I placed my order in Feb figuring it would take a while and hoping 2021 info would be out before it came. I've also been waiting for the Bronco. I'm just looking for something different and I'm in no rush.
Nice thing about my dealer is they sell for under sticker and don't require a deposit.

What about the Palisade? It has a nice blue option.

 

[Sparkle Girl 47]

@Sparkle Girl 47 what is your payment target for affordability and what state do you reside in?

I live in Tulsa Ok. Target price is $32,000